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https://www.lean.net.au/champion

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Another mob we've got to compete against. It's never ending. The only way we can win is by showing our strength at the Rally in Melb next Wednesday.
wombat

As a life long Labor Party supporter, i am shocked to see this party get into bed with the rotten Greens. There is no way on Gods green earth that i will ever vote for the liberal party, so it poses a dilemma for me, continue to vote Labor or not vote at all? That`s something i`ll have to think about, what i dont get is the zeal with which these Greenie tards want to lock up all the forests, who or what do they think they are, the earth is for us all, sure some laws must exist to protect what we have left, but not to the detriment of bush users like us prospectors.
I cant make that rally in Melbourne, but will be there in spirit, if u can make it to the rally, please go, we must show these scum that they will not take our freedom to do what we love away!!

Ivan N wrote:As a life long Labor Party supporter, i am shocked to see this party get into bed with the rotten Greens. There is no way on Gods green earth that i will ever vote for the liberal party, so it poses a dilemma for me, continue to vote Labor or not vote at all? That`s something i`ll have to think about, what i dont get is the zeal with which these Greenie tards want to lock up all the forests, who or what do they think they are, the earth is for us all, sure some laws must exist to protect what we have left, but not to the detriment of bush users like us prospectors.
I cant make that rally in Melbourne, but will be there in spirit, if u can make it to the rally, please go, we must show these scum that they will not take our freedom to do what we love away!!

You need to think differently now!!!

Voting Labour or Greens or Liberals is not how it works for us anymore!!!

Think............. THE UNITED NATIONS
Think.................. COMMUNISM
Think................... CONTROL
Read..................... AGENDA 21
Australia is part of this and this is where closing up the forests comes from.

Our next Rally is in Melbourne. This one will either make us our break us. This is the one that we tell the Politicians "Hands of our Bush" and enough is enough. But to do this we need numbers there. Not just a few hundred but a 1000 or more to really get our point across. Remember we are not only fighting for our selves but also for the people that will come after us , when we go. So tell your family and friends, tell your work mates. Tell everyone you know, they have to be at the Melbourne if they want to keep the bush free for future generations to come.

Times, Date and Place
Wednesday the 8th August starting at 1 pm on the Steps of Parliament House Spring Street in the City of Melbourne. Suggest to use public transport. No parking worries that way.

wombat

Twas a great rally today. Disappointing labor or the greens didn't turn up, even though invited .
Happy to say Wombat that the PA system was fantastic,TRY TURNING IT UP FULL BOAR ON WEDNESDAY,BLAST THOSE POLLIES OUT OF THERE COMFORTABLE CHAIRS!!!

cheers moredeep

YES MINISTER

Well, I finally received three replies from all 3 labor people I wrote to.
The first reply was from my local members ASSISTANT stating it was referred to the appropriate minister.
The second reply was from the environmental minister's ASSISTANT saying the letter was referred to her executive director of land management,which I received a convoluted reply.
The third letter was from the premiers ASSISTANT who said the premier had ask her to refer it onto the environmental minister,[who will probably send onto her executive manger for land care? ]
So after a 3 paged letter not one labor person replied to me personally, I'm assuming they actual read the dam thing Gees they must be bizzy

cheers moredeep

Mate most of those heads (politicians) have all their own people do all their work but they get the big Tax payer paid money for doing nothing. We are finding this all the time when we have been sending letters and submissions to the hierarchy . It get pushed of to a holey different department.
wombat

In the event that you may not be able to be present at the BUGU rally on Wednesday the 8th this may be a good way of making sure that your voice is heard.  For those inclined to write to sitting members of parliament, here is a list of sitting members which you may like to contact to let them know about your concerns regarding any future changes to access of existing state forest.  The correspondence doesn’t need to be long or extravagant, by simply stating your support for the Bush Users Groups United actions and your wishes with regards to access to our bush this would be a great help in our cause.  So just cut and paste the emails of the major parties’ leaders, some ministers and perhaps find the your local member and let them know that you are taking keen interest in the developments.  Once their inbox is flooded they won’t be able to ignore us any longer.


Party Leaders

Member for Mulgrave
The Hon. Daniel Andrews MP
Leader of the Labor Party, Premier
daniel.andrews@parliament.vic.gov.au

Member for Bulleen
The Hon. Matthew Guy MP
Leader of the Liberal Party
matthew.guy@parliament.vic.gov.au

Member for Murray Plains
The Hon. Peter Walsh MP
Leader of The Nationals
peter.walsh@parliament.vic.gov.au

Member for Northern Metropolitan
Dr Samantha Ratnam MLC
Leader of The Victorian Greens
samantha.ratnam@parliament.vic.gov.au

Other Parliamentarians that may benefit from knowing your views:
Member for Werribee
The Hon. Tim Pallas MP
Treasurer
Minister for Resources
pallas@parliament.vic.gov.au
Australian Labor Party


The Hon. Lily D'Ambrosio MP
lily.d'ambrosio@parliament.vic.gov.au
Minister for Energy, Environment and Climate Change
Minister for Suburban Development
Australian Labor Party

The Hon Jaala Pulford
jaala.pulford@parliament.vic.gov.au
Minister for Agriculture
Minister for Regional Development
Australian Labor Party

Members of parliament list can be found at this link

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/about/people-in-parliament/members-search/list-all-members

For Members of the Legislative Assembly found here

https://www.vic.gov.au/contactsandservices/directory/?ea0_lfz149_120.&organizationalUnit&d36b8970-490d-4b28-b507-f537e77c77c8#Members%20of%20Parliament

Members of the Legislative Council found here

https://www.vic.gov.au/contactsandservices/directory/?ea0_lfz149_120.&organizationalUnit&41aaa142-cff2-42a9-b402-bb25baae3bd5#Members%20of%20Parliament

Thank you AuTich for that info. I have already recently written to my local member and I will also be messaging those contacts on your list.

To everyone going tomorrow,see you all there.
To those who can't make it, keep emailing/writing to the pollies,

UNITED WE STAND!

Cheers moredeep

Why is it that the trouble makers who cause all this trouble (Labour & Greens) don't bother to show up and explain to the people what they are trying to achieve for the people ? ¿??????¿
Hiding their faces does not achieve anything and shows that they are hiding something

Spot on uncle bob,pathetic and gutless ,I saw a few labor party dudes slink out of parliament ,cross the road just to have a look at the proceedings.
They couldn't even been bothered to say gidday to anyone in the crowd,ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE!!!!!!

Cheers moredeep

Was there any news-story on this march?

Considering that there are a lot of prospectors in Victoria, that was a very poor effort made by the Victorian prospecting community!!!  Very disappointing.
Consider that most people will take a couple of days off to a week or two to go prospecting, yet didn't even bother to turn up to this very important march!
Excuses will always be excuses.

Don't start winging when every forest gets locked up!!!!

Disappointing media coverage as well uncle bob.
A prehistoric sharks tooth gets more media attention [every news channel tonight ] than the loss of potentially thousands of hectares of bush access and heavy restrictions as well.
May be we should include the word refugee in our fight, ["refugees that get a visa excluded from Victorian bush lands!!! FOR EXAMPLE], the reason I'm saying this is because I saw a TV news report the other night which had about a dozen pro refugee protesters waving banners,WHY DID THEY GET TV COVERAGE AND WE DIDN'T???

regards moredeep

moredeep wrote:Disappointing media coverage as well uncle bob.
A prehistoric sharks tooth gets more media attention [every news channel tonight ] than the loss of potentially thousands of hectares of bush access and heavy restrictions as well.
May be we should include the  word refugee in our fight, ["refugees that get a visa excluded from Victorian bush lands!!! FOR EXAMPLE],  the reason I'm saying this is because I saw a TV news report the other night which had about a dozen pro refugee protesters waving banners,WHY DID THEY GET TV COVERAGE AND WE DIDN'T???

regards  moredeep

Yes,
The Africans get the coverage because they are part of the "agenda 21" moredeep!!!  No other reason.!!!


We don't get anything because this is part of " agenda 21" to lock everything away from the people, so it's has to be done as quietly as possible.

United Nations is 2 faced,
The best thing for the world
And your worst nightmare at the same time.
Communism in disguise.
Pure EVIL.

We contacted pretty well all the News Mobs. But no show. We also contacted All the Political Parties to come to the rally to either hear what we had to say or to speak on behalf of their party in regards to Parks. As we all know now there was the two major parties missing, Labor & The Greens. Why because they are in bed with each other and are planning the same thing in this up coming election, They have been invited to 2 out of the other 4 rallies that we had in regional Victoria. But sorry we can't make it attitude. So make up your own mind what that really means and how they feel about your bush and what they may have plan for you and me in the future.
wombat

That's right Uncle Bob it is agenda 21 in full swing. There agenda is to microchip the total Australian population. The Liberal party is in bed with the UN as well. Pauline Hansons party has spoken against agenda 21 and the UN.They are talking of forming a Victorian branch before the next election.The PMAV should talk to Hansons party and work with them.The population at large is mostly totally unaware of the strong hold the UN has on Australia, they dominate our school system and universities, brain washing our kids.We have Telstra rolling out 5g next year. Which will be embraced by the majority of the population. What 5g is going to do to our population is frightening.There is a 5g facebook group that tells some of the dangers of 5g.Plenty of information on utube describing the dangerous 60GHz it will operate on.The mainstream press is owned by the big corporations.There is a total black out on this information in our mainstream press and plenty of other bad things going on in the world.

Yes Keogh.

And Wombat is being ignorant towards everything that I have said.
So is the PMAV hiding something????

l got banned from the Ballarat PMAV for putting up the Australian governments political agreements with the UN starting in 1992.l think that the PMAV needs to educate the bush users about our real enemy. The United Nations. l do not know if any thing is being hidden by the PMAV. l expect l will be banned a few more times yet.

keogh wrote:l got banned from the Ballarat PMAV for putting up the Australian governments political agreements with the UN starting in 1992.l think that the PMAV needs to educate the bush users about our real enemy. The United Nations. l do not know if any thing is being hidden by the PMAV. l expect l will be banned a few more times yet.

If you got banned for this then the PMAV has something to hide, no other reason.


Maybe this is why Wombat has said nothing in regards to the real reasons about the United Nations being behind all this push to lock up the forests.

If not, then - PLEASE EXPLAIN........ WOMBAT????

l should clarify that l was banned from the Ballarat PMAV facebook site for posting the UN agreements with our governments as the main cause of our current problems. l am a member of the Geelong PMAV. l was told. What a load of rubbish bye bye. l will not name the person who took me off the site as it serves no purpose. But l would like to see us all on the same page. United about what is really going on.The article was named. Australia Surrenders its Democracy. Sovereignty and lndependance, part one by Graham Williamson. Agenda21 a brief introduction.

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Hey WOMBAT.

You're doing exactly what labour and the greens are doing, ignoring the questions.

Don't worry wombat, we'll get to the bottom of where the PMAV stands in all of this United Nations dealings!

Uncle Bob Keogh has to take that up with Head office of the PMAV mate. I just look after my branch and running the Bush User Groups United. If he belongs to the Geelong PMAV what do they say about Agenda 21. I'm Central Branch not Bendigo or Geelong
wombat

Wombat wrote: Uncle Bob Keogh has to take that up with Head office of the PMAV mate. I just look after my branch and running the Bush User Groups United. If he belongs to the Geelong PMAV what do they say about Agenda 21. I'm Central Branch not Bendigo or Geelong
wombat

Wombat, you are a voice for the PMAV.

This has nothing to do with this branch or that branch.

Gosh where is this all going?
I googled agenda 21[a guide to local agenda 21 ] bloody hell it's bizarre, 185 pages of very weird stuff/full on gobbledygook,but very well organized .
UNCLE BOB,I believe you, but my tiny brain wants to hide from it all and I just want to go la la la with my fingers in my ears, I know that is the wrong thing to do. .
I think you have spread/educated the meaning of agenda 21 very well on this forum,well done.I'm more informed now thankyou.[video agenda 21 for dummies]
But where do we go from here with our cause? do we keep badgering the pollies ,keep up the media campaign etc .
I think we have to now focus putting more pressure on the current government,how we do this is up to us?
Constructive/practical suggestions are critical at this point in time, otherwise we just keep going around in circles?

regards moredeep

moredeep wrote:Gosh where is this all going?
I googled agenda 21[a guide to local agenda 21 ] bloody hell it's bizarre, 185 pages of very weird stuff/full on gobbledygook,but very well organized .
UNCLE BOB,I believe you, but my tiny brain wants to hide from it all and I just want to go la la la with my fingers in my ears, I know that is the wrong thing to do. .
I think you have spread/educated the meaning of agenda 21 very well on this forum,well done.I'm more informed now thankyou.[video agenda 21 for dummies]
But where do we go from here with our cause? do we keep badgering the pollies ,keep up the media campaign etc .
I think we have to now focus putting more pressure on the current government,how we do this is up to us?
Constructive/practical suggestions are critical at this point in time, otherwise we just keep going around in circles?

regards moredeep

Moredeep,

Good on you for looking into the United Nations rules on Australia.
Yes, we are going around in circles all for nothing.
Because, the real issues need to be addressed first
And this is what I have been trying to say.

Ignorance brings on destruction.
Destruction brings the United Nations to affirm it's control.

To address the real issues, can we then target those evil doers.
Those faceless, hide behind closed doors people.

BUGU and the PMAV will be having a stall at this years 4X4 & Fishing Expo at the Melb. Showgrounds this weekend 17th-19th. If anyone would like to join us on the stall please let me know.
wombat

Hi WOMBAT,I won't be able to make it to the show,but I'm just wondering at some stage if some flyers were able to be made up.
I'd be happy to hand some out around town , stick a few up on notice boards and do a lazy stroll around town doing a letter box drop and Leave a few at local camping stores etc.
It all helps I guess.

cheers moredeep