New GPX 5000 and 4800 views

The GPX-5000 runs a lot quieter than the 4500 in all timings and ground types, this would then suggest the detector will notify the user targets are present that might have been missed by a noisier detector. I can also assure all readers of this forum the GPX-5000 has a different circuit board over the 4500 or previous models.

I have revisited areas I know well using even the Normal timings and found gold I missed with the 4500 using the same timings, so not only is the detector blessed with totally new timings such as Fine Gold, (which will most probably be the most popular timing over Enhance here in Australia) Salt Gold and Coin Relic, the other timings benefit from the overall quieter nature of the detector also along with a noticeable improvement in the Enhance timing which is why the 4500 sold so well.

So in summing up, for Australian prospectors they now have a triple immediate benefit in the GPX-5000,

1: Improved Enhance timings which means you can revisit areas you have been successful with the 4500.
2: A new Fine Gold timing which has equivalent depth to Enhance but greater sensitivity for the smaller nuggets especially in high mineralisation
3: And lastly a noticeable overall quieter and smoother nature of the detector which has a global effect on the detector and how it behaves.

JP

Hi JP,
Thanks for the reassurance. I was starting to believe we were being taken for a ride again. Can you confirm the 4800 has a different circuit board as well.
cheers

Going deeper for smaller nuggets would bring many smaller nuggets to light and the fact theres more smaller nuggets than bigger nuggets you probarly will find more nuggets over all, but alas i was hoping to find that retirement nugget, being in Victoria and all, i did read the Minelab web page again about the gpx 5000 and how it explains clearly how it still maintains the gpx depth advantage, so claimpeg on almost every line of the web page it points to it not going deeper than the 4500 for outright depth, it maintains it, but however its going to give a few more inches on smaller nuggets so for those who upgrade fast may end up with a bag full of smaller nuggets depending on if your the first one there or not so maybe for a few monthes it would be good but if you wait to upgrade the advantage will wain, like me buying the 4000 after the 4000 and 4500 had hammered the place but i still squeezed a few more out but not enough.

if it is lots quieter it should go deeper on all size gold.

Claimpeg wrote:if it is lots quieter it should go deeper on all size gold.

I think a few people believe this might be the case. As do I. It goes without saying that if any new machines operate smoother and more quietly, the chance of hearing a nugget that was previously too faint to notice (due to other factors) should be higher... and they will probably do rather well on older, proven ground. I think it's going to be very interesting to see how people apply and adapt to this new addition to the GPX range.

No i dont think it will go deeper it will filter out some ground noise in heavy minerelized ground finding gold that other machines couldnt hear because of the background noise, i think theres a difference between full depth and usable depth, for full depth on the 4000 you would put it in normal, gain 15, deep mode, and boost with a big mono and it will give big depth but its not really usable, now if we could get that full on depth with no ground noise we would all be laughing on the way to the bank, the nuggets are in the leads and gutters within the washdirt thats where the big pay outs lie in vic today, the shallow sides and slopes have been done already any monsters to be found would almost all be gone, theres some leads and heads of gullys where the wash is about 4 feet thats where still some biggys lie, ive dug a couple of shallow holes and have found small nuggets 2 in one once, one of them was on my mulluck heap, no detector as yet would have heard them.

gollstar wrote:No i dont think it will go deeper it will filter out some ground noise in heavy minerelized ground finding gold that other machines couldnt hear because of the background noise....

Yeah, so then it is finding gold deeper! isn't it?

No it doesnt go deeper it HEARS the nugget as a nugget not as ground noise if i wacked any gpx in normal mode the machine will hear the nugget but i will confuse it as ground noise, do you know what filters do, filters away the background noise leaving a target there, the more filters you have the less depth, but less background noise, i was talking about DEPTH does it go DEEPER i never said the new machine had less usable depth i was trying find out if it goes deeper ffs i do know it will pull more nuggets maybe small maybe big off people existing patches, i just want to know if it goes any deeper than the sd 2000.


And also in a week or so millions of dollars are going to be spent on these machines, i think its fair that questions should be asked. if those wont be answered then its up to the individaul to read between the lines.

gollstar wrote:No it doesnt go deeper it HEARS the nugget as a nugget not as ground noise if i wacked any gpx in normal mode the machine will hear the nugget but i will confuse it as ground noise, do you know what filters do, filters away the background noise leaving a target there, the more filters you have the less depth, but less background noise, i was talking about DEPTH does it go DEEPER i never said the new machine had less usable depth i was trying find out if it goes deeper ffs i do know it will pull more nuggets maybe small maybe big off people existing patches, i just want to know if it goes any deeper than the sd 2000.

Golstar, if your detectors pulse reaches 24" but doesnt recognise a nugget at 24" due to ground noise, mineralization, frogs farting or what ever.. and the new detectors pulse reaches 24" but DOES recognise the nugget under the SAME conditions due to its ability to filter out those noises then it technically does go deeper.

p.s. ffs

Yeah look im not taking a on dump on the thing, i just want to find out whats going on, i understand it will be an improvment, it will most likely be the best detector on the market, so im not saying dont buy it, im not anti minelab or anything im just trying work out where the improvments are, and if theres any improvents like new timmings for extra deep or monster nugget mode at 4 feet, thats what i was hanging out for, for the people who have old patches im sure it will go great guns and some with dozens of patches lined up will end up with a swag of nuggets, but some of us wern't around during the good times and its pretty dam hard finding that first nugget on ground that xxxxxxx many people and pro operators have surgically gridded looking for patches, if you find one thats it, your lucky they missed one, so what i was hoping since the patches are gone or ear marked already was somthing that would find a biggy in a gully where i know gold to be.

gollstar wrote: so what i was hoping since the patches are gone or ear marked already was somthing that would find a biggy in a gully where i know gold to be.

You and the other 1269 members of this forum

That's why I'm keeping my 4500 and I might get the next minelab release.

MadTuna said it clearer than I did.

1269 members is a lot members if 100 upgrade thats $650 000 to $700 000, there could be 1000 upgraders who knows, but i think some more info should be available now, any info ive got is from jp on this forum, it would be great if he could put a short clip on youtube of his video, i also agree minelab should just buy a bulk batch of videos off him and send them out with the new machines, because the first thing you would do is buy his videos to help work out whats going on, i just want to find out whats going on before i buy it, whats its true capabilities. I do like the fact that its been said it is overall quieter in all timings now thats somthing i would be interested to hear more about.

Minelab has published a fair bit of info already on thier website, Jp's given a bit of his insight here on this forum. What you're after is users appraisal, constructive or otherwise.
Unfortunately you're not going to get that until after Monday and when user reports start to slowly filter through.

P.s.. Marco...it was the frog fart wasn't it....should have put the frog fart in your post...would have saved me writing mine

Good luck with your one, are you getting one on monday if so would like to hear the ins and outs.

Thanks mate...pick it up Monday morning...hopefully digging good targets by mid day

Good stuff, i would think dunollys going to be busyer than burke street it will be interseting to see if anything turns up spewing ive got work, i would have been keenly interested to see where everyone heads out to. i cant afford one until the end of the month anyway, and im a bit miffed they brought it out a month too early.

Here is a pick of someone who looks like Nero measuring something quite long, but his eyes are looking toward 0 inches on the tape measure.

Undertaker wrote:
Here is a pick of someone who looks like Nero measuring something quite long, but his eyes are looking toward 0 inches on the tape measure.

I haven't been clean shaven in a decade.

/ And just look where he's measuring from!

madtuna wrote:I do as I would imagine most do. But a quick glance to make sure they haven't been bumped sure beats walking around in cancel mode

Where the switches are placed is not an instinct we are born with like breathing, you learn thier placement over time. Someone with the machine in thier hands for the first time doesn't

Yep, done that! Must have walked 2 k in the Whipstick in Cancel! lol

I guess there is also a down side of a release of a new minelab detector for those in the know, watch your back and cover your tracks, I bet there will be a lot more prying eyes and sneaky tactics being employed as it would be obvious you would all be heading strait out to your best patches and spots

Cheers Mark

MS you should be more trusting of your fellow prospectors, where ever did you get an idea like that

I can feel the excitment in the air, i bet people are packing gear away, studying maps, gearing up for the big day, hopefully a couple deep big ones come to light after reading every monthly issue of gold net online it gives the impression a 100 ounce nugget is found every other day in dunolly, talbot wedderburn etc somone has to find somthing big, to give a boost to my faith,

even im excited and im not even getting it,

JP,

Just checked with Minelab and they confirmed the new GPX's Do Not have a new circuit board. They have improved electronics and upgraded software. I went further and asked them if it was possible to modify a 4500 into a 5000. You may already know the answer to that. I'm not saying that the new detector isn't an improvement over the older model but is still the same generation with a few subtle improvements.

Cheers

I wil get one, hope it sniffs out the lil ones.

I wont be sellng my 4000.

MICK

The 5000,

Shucks, you wont get better 4000 is so quiet, be out tomorrow & show up more bits.

MICK

Undertaker wrote:JP,

Just checked with Minelab and they confirmed the new GPX's Do Not have a new circuit board. They have improved electronics and upgraded software. I went further and asked them if it was possible to modify a 4500 into a 5000. You may already know the answer to that. I'm not saying that the new detector isn't an improvement over the older model but is still the same generation with a few subtle improvements.

Cheers

I also checked with Minelab just to be sure and I can assure you the GPX-5000 and GPX-4800 have a "NEW circuit board and NEW circuitry".

JP

1) Are the only differences between the GPX-5000 and GPX-4800 is the GPX-5000 has Fine Gold timing and Salt Gold timing with an extra 11" Mono coil, otherwise they are identical machines ?

2) Do both new machines have the same new increased Gain ?

3) The GPX-4800 is without the Fine Gold timing, then will this have everyone using mainly the new improved Enhance timing instead on this machine having a bit reduced small gold performance as compared to Fine Gold timing ?

Beer Beeper wrote:1) Are the only differences between the GPX-5000 and GPX-4800 is the GPX-5000 has Fine Gold timing and Salt Gold timing with an extra 11" Mono coil, otherwise they are identical machines ?

2) Do both new machines have the same new increased Gain ?

3) The GPX-4800 is without the Fine Gold timing, then will this have everyone using mainly the new improved Enhance timing instead on this machine having a bit reduced small gold performance as compared to Fine Gold timing ?

Once you have tried Fine Gold you would not want to be without it. There are also a number of other differences such as less Motion settings, less Gain resolution (1-20 on the 5000, only 1-15 on the 4800), no Custom search mode on the 4800 (this includes the new Pinpoint mode which is very handy), no specific GB on the 4800, no Inverted Response option, no Boost audio filter, Stabilizer only 1 - 10 range on 4800, no Salt Gold timing, no Sensitive Smooth timing.

JP

Just to be on the safe side it would be wise to wait for feedback on this detectors performance. I think there will be nothing in it.