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Post  Kon61gold Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:57 pm

G'day mickb

From my point of view & in order to make sense, the new GPX 6000 must fall somewhere in between the GPX 5000 & GPZ 7000, or as good as the GPZ 7000, but only if (as you say) Minelab has plans for a further improvement of the GPZ 7000, via a software upgrade, or new improved model GPZ design altogether.
BTW, not long to go now before we see the advertising of the Australian version.

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Post  Rwork Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:05 pm

The Patent office was told not to release drawings and info until the 9th Feb. Maybe the 10th here.
Remember the Americans write the date in a different format to most in Oz.
( orange date )
It has already been changed from a date in Dec. Hopefully we get info and a price from the Australian dealers soon.the GPX 6000 - Page 4 462d2910

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Post  AraratGold Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:17 pm

I have just read the user manual for the " greatest show on earth " !

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=YA1Sqm88rdY9jBv8GMBnxg%3D%3D&fcc_id=Z4C-0039

Nothing in that manual enthralls me much at all, and frankly, I am not impressed at all ! These bits concern me :

" The GPX 17 Mono coil is the top choice for covering large areas of ground quickly and efficiently. It is the top performer when searching for large deep nuggets in less mineralised ground. Like all monoloop coils, the GPX 17 Mono is susceptible to noise in conductive ground or when there are high levels of EMI "

I thought this new u beaut super expensive machine was going to rid these problems, but seemingly no ! Less mineralised ? That wipes out most of Western Australia !

I saw no mention of threshold tone control either ????????

A 5000 is looking better each day for our 3rd detector !

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Post  Kon61gold Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:07 pm

Good one Rick & thanks for the update. You see, when they hyped up sensitivity levels to an all time high, through all the excitement, they must have forgot about the conductive in ground minerals where 99% of the gold is most likely to be found. Shocked Q24 Q35
If that wipes out most of WA, then Victoria shouldn't exist on any map. Laughing

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Post  Rwork Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Some of the technical info.the GPX 6000 - Page 4 2cd00210
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Post  Rwork Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:05 pm

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The important bits.

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Post  Rwork Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:46 pm

To save me posting 18 pages/pictures i have enclosed a link to an easy to see version of the 6000 manual.
https://www.facebook.com/289894031107103/posts/3617547931675013/
I have paid for most of the machine as a deposit. Annoyed that it looks like we will get the standard version with DD when other countries get the option of the larger mono and two battery versions. I have contacted Minelab direct and hopefully will get an answer tomorrow.

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Post  Kon61gold Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:48 pm

Thanks Rwork. Now to wait for its release & some user feedback in way of performance. cheers
One thing I must congratulate Minelab on, is that they are now one step closer to chasing the Garret Gold Pan for colour. Shocked Laughing
If just about everything (ground modes/timings etc) are automatically adjusted on the GPX 6000, sparing the user from manually adjusting the detector, to best suit their needs, then things just might end up sounding like this; (one electronic part talking to the other, inside the 6000 control box)  
Captain to John?  Captain to John? come in John?
John here chief.
Do you hear any noise coming from ground minerals?
No chief, things are pretty quiet ground wise.
Then do me a favour, since we're traversing through benign ground, up that gain so that the operator hears that 0.05 at maximum height of 5 inches.
I,I Captain adjustment made, that should keep the operator happy.
Greg to Captain, Greg to Captain?
Captain here Greg.
Mother ship heading into heavily mineralized ground Captain.
Quick John/Greg, dumb the workings of this detector down, so that it can continue to run smoothly over this section of hot ground, without a change being noticed.
I,I Capt I,I Capt, roger that.
Roulph to Captain, Roulph to Capt?
Captain here Roulph, whats your problem?
Captain, do you think the operator will ever know, that instead of 5 inches depth on that 0.05 gram, is now only capable of picking it up at one inch, due to the high inground minerals?
Nah don't be stupid Roulph. This is why we took out all the guess work, so the operator don't feel a thing, no?
I,I captain.
Steady as she goes fellas  Shocked Q35      
My apologies folks, just some poor sense of humour on my behalf. Q35

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Post  moredeep Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:47 pm

cabin fever setting in again kon?,it's only day 2 of the lock down ,yikes
great post though,gave me a laugh lol!


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Post  Kon61gold Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:37 pm

Cabin fever Indeed moredeep. Lock downs have the tendency of sitting people down & giving them more time to think straight  Shocked Laughing
C'mon Minelab, bring on that SDC Killer, so I can test it up against the Garret Gold Pan. Whoops  V10  Q22  V33 There I go again. I've got to snap out of such thinking. Shocked Laughing

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Post  Slavitoooo Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:25 pm

The detector, there is no discrimination, will be difficult to sell in Europe.
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Post  Kon61gold Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:55 pm

The GPZ 7000 (ZVT), came without any form of discriminator. Now they've managed to take away even the meagre 4 inches of discrimination that were possible to all past DVT detectors (from the days of the 2200d, all the way up to the GPX 5000).  V02 Minelaaaaaaab V04
No doubt something essential for European ground conditions Slavi. All interests now lye, in seeing how it performs.

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Post  Slavitoooo Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:07 pm

Yes Kon, I have GPZ 7000 but I can work with it only on small plots for gold in Bulgaria. In more cases I use 4500 and 5000 for coins, relics and for gold! A detector without discrimination is a difficult job, here we have iron scrap more than 3000 years old.
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Post  norvic Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:07 am

Crikey, just went back to page one of this thread, 10 years back you folks started building the 6000, and your going to let ML beat you Evil or Very Mad

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Post  adrian ss Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:16 am

If I could get 95 dollars for a 0.05g bit of gold I might be interested in a metal detector that could locate such a bit in Aussie ground.
Check this out.
Wishfull thinking for 4 bucks worth of gold.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NZP-Mucize-Altin-0-05g-Gold-Bar-Worlds-Smallest-Poured-Bullion-/133500716597

Oh yeah I forgot: I have Gold Spears that can find micron size gold at just about any depth in ground that you can get the thing in to. And they discriminate. Very Happy

If the ground is tough then you get an auger and drill a hole down to the depth that you want to go to.
I got three of them 15 grand a piece Laughing Anybody interested. cheers bounce Very Happy Laughing alien Suspect
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Post  Rwork Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:05 am

I had sent a message to Minelab over the weekend. They replied promptly and have asked me to send an email to an address they supplied or ring a number.
I sent an email request saying i didn’t want the global standard version of the 6000 with the larger DD as the extra coil.
I am still out bush in lockdown and the ph service is poor.
I await the response.

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Post  Kon61gold Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:05 pm

Yes, for it will be interesting to see what Minelab supplies as standard, for us here in Aus Rwork & what they offer as an accessory.
From my point of view, I cant see how the GPX 6000 cannot come without a DD coil as standard, for a lot of Australian soil require that of such.
Fingers crossed they actually offer a choice of packages, to all or any potential GPX 6000 buyers.

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Post  Rwork Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:12 pm

I received a message from Minelab saying to contact Customer Care. They supplied a phone number which isn’t connected.
I then sent an email to customer care. They replied and said they were only aware that the larger mono is supplied as an accessory. They said they would know more in the next few weeks.
I forwarded them a picture from Minelab in Dubai showing the words on the 6000 box “Whats Included” in their version.
It shows the two mono’s and two batteries.
I might be better asking Codan.
Awaiting another response.

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Post  Rwork Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:52 pm

Not long now hopefully.
The firm who were making the coil leads went broke. Minelab then had to get the new versions re certified. We may see two different leads on the first units.
Some would have used the machines now as they did the rounds with the different dealers. One lady i know took it out to a site she had found gold using a 7000 and a 2300. She said it was only a very small area but she found another nugget and many very small pellets.

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Post  Sparrowfart Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:19 am

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Post  adrian ss Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:17 pm

Are we sure that this detector was designed and built in Australia?? Build quality does not look too flash. CCt boards look old school....Looks more like Arabia or some such place.
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Post  AraratGold Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:43 pm

adrian ss wrote:Are we sure that this detector was designed and built in Australia?? Build quality does not look too flash. CCt boards look old school....Looks more like Arabia or some such place.

Definitely not built in Australia, they haven't been for quite a few years. Mostly made in the Plexus factory in Malaysia, although a lot of the spare parts for GPZ and current GPX are made in China !  Rolling Eyes

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Post  adrian ss Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:53 pm

What an awful video. Wind noise, Terrible presentation. Not a good way to present a new metal detector.
Waving the coil over some targets on the surface is about as bad as it can get.
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Post  adrian ss Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:31 am

That is a better video but not a hell of a lot better.
It does not demonstrate the ability of the detector and, the set up procedures are the same for any ground balancing VLF or PI metal detector. These dangling carrot videos are pretty useless.and do not do the machine justice.
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Post  Rwork Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:33 pm

Just as a matter of interest. I wondered how the upgrade would be done. I couldn’t see a port and thought they must be going to do it wifi somehow.
The update port is inside the back speaker cover. Remove the grill to see it.

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Post  tirp56 Thu May 06, 2021 9:41 pm

well i, got one havent used it but it comes with a 14" dd coil an 11" mono coil which are both waterproof to a metre bluetooth minelab h/phones that are very good so ive heard ,a bit of a crappy 12v charger cord with 20c battery clips on it a slide on battery system again does a good job 240vwall charger again looks flimsy so time will tell and thats all i know at this point in time cheers al

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Post  norvic Tue May 11, 2021 6:23 am

Aye tis earths version of Starwars magic saber. The more I use the 6000 the more I shake my head, ML just keep on bringing us more power, this time a first, in an easy to use small lightweight package. Expensive yeah but that`s the cost for tools from a company that does the R & D like no other detector company. If you spend the time behind it productively and seriously, it will pay for itself in gold, or if the occasional hobby gold hit is payment enough, it will do that too.

For me I have always had that serious incurable gold fever virus, and ML MDs keep that under some control, come on X coil a concentric lightweight 17"or so for the 6000 please (we accept ML aren`t the best coil manufacturers), just the vaccine needed.

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Post  Kon61gold Tue May 11, 2021 2:24 pm

Norvic, have you had the chance to compare the 10 inch X-Coil on the GPZ 7000, on or over gram/sub gram gold, over that of the GPX 6000 using its 11 inch mono coil? If so, your thoughts over such testing would be appreciated.  Very Happy

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