Re: Somedays sluice

rc62burke Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:35 pm

VERY nice

Guest Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:37 pm

Thanks Lee yes that was a good day (short) recently! But the creek has to much water in it at the moment but I will be back !!!!!

someday Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:42 pm

G'day Lee ol chap! Hahahahahahahaha Q25

Mate I said it was a work in progress right from the start, and it is, it is study

Lee mate drink more beer, you gottu pee somewhere Razz

If I could only work out how to get out more often the gold would be abominaberbleble Very Happy

Hey Ark "We dig the same creek"??? Suspect

Now I know I'm gonna have nightmares, for sure Shocked

Guest Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:35 pm

rc62burke wrote:Hey Chris
Enough with the changes mate how do you expect me to keep up with the copying when every time I check in here there is something different, mate give me a break would ya, LOL

But how is that fine gold spot treating you (the only way I can slow you down is to make you have nightmares) cheers mate looks good, it's a bit of a dry year up here, looks like I need to build a dryblower.

Lee it is much better than TV lol cheers mate

Guest Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:57 pm

someday wrote:G'day Lee ol chap! Hahahahahahahaha

Mate I said it was a work in progress right from the start, and it is, it is
Lee mate drink more beer, you gottu pee somewhere

If I could only work out how to get out more often the gold would be abominaberbleble

Hey Ark "We dig the same creek"???
Now I know I'm gonna have nightmares, for sure

Ha ha !! Just bring the beers !

someday Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:34 pm

mmm beer

I'm hopen I need directions pale

be good to catch up one day Ark.

Guest Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:32 am

someday wrote:mmm beer

I'm hopen I need directions

be good to catch up one day Ark.

Yes indeed it would be good to catch up as well, but bugger i am one the wagon so it would have to be a cup of tea.

someday Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:41 pm

Whiskers I've been on the bandwagon for the past 3 months, so tea / coffee is fine mate! Very Happy

However

it's just like riden a bike, you never forget how! actually I make a point of it to never forget how cheers

Pick a date, any date cheers

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Hmm, seems I should've read the general section first Sad

Jerryx4 Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:46 am

Hey Mr professional sluice maker SOMEDAY

Whats the best design on a spray bar... Im thinking of a '|_|' shape with the pump feeding into one tip of the "|_|' at the top of the hopper and the cross bar at the bottom spraying up the hopper to hopefully delay the fall out of material & chop it up more against gravity as the hopper is quite short.

Just like standard (below) but the spraybar reversed

rc62burke Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:55 am

Hey Jerry
Just looking at that pic & your explanation, the water inlet to the spray bar is better coming in at the bottom of the U just replace one of the bends with a T, this will give you better distribution of the water flow & pressure, I think you also need more holes in your spray bar of a smaller size, the key is start small as you can always enlarge, your ? about putting another bar across the front, this will most likely become a pain in the rear as it will be an obstacle for the shovel or a target.
Hope this helps.

Jerryx4 Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:20 am

All good its just an example pic.
My hopper will only fit a small about at a time (sluice is only 6in wide), maybe half a shovel slowly fed after classifying to 1/2 inch.
Thanks, I'll feed it from the bottom then. will be better on the fittings too i guess as less weight of hose up high on the front.
Although it might be a pain I think I will do the bottom bar just to help hold stuff in the box as much as possible. Lol I'm in no hurry.
Hopefully all this pissing about with metal will give me enough confidence working with metal to build a beaut Banjo like you guys one day soon.
wood I can do.. metal, not so lol

Guest Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:34 am

Jerry refer to this post for all things Banjo!!!

https://golddetecting.forumotion.net/t3854-updated-banjo-highbanker-plans

someday Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:02 pm

WooHoo Whiskers ain't leaven cheers

Jerry in all honesty, go with the Banjo plans that Ark linked too
cause if I do many more mods to my sluice I'll end up with a close replica of those plans Razz

My opinion of what your trying to create?
You would need to know the max amount of water your sluice can handle without washing out gold
that way you can build a spray bar system to achieve that flow rate.

Spray bar pushing against the material ay?
If you could place that bar under the classifier you could be on a winner if your hopper is built similar to the banjo!

Mate there's nothing wrong building a sluice outu wood, do you know why manufacturers build there gear lightweight?
Because it's cheap to freight!

Guest Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:56 pm

Jerry what the guys have said is pretty much on the money. Can i ask what type of pump do you have?

Someday mate it will be cups of tea all round Somedays sluice - Page 4 Icon_biggrin

it would be good to catch up. Somedays sluice - Page 4 Icon_cheers

someday Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:26 pm

Tried out the new catch tray under the old hopper trick Cool

My take on this add-on, first class, don't leave home without one!
Anyone considering making a highbanker, make the catch tray a priority in your sluice design, no if's or but's about it!! Cool

Jerryx4 Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:29 pm

Wow really that good?
So instead of a flat section under the hopper outlet should one just make a small removable tray?

Guest Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:59 pm

Yes ! Is that not obvious from the plans ? Let me know why you are confused ? The tray is directly under the outlet from the sluice but one important thing has happened in the banjo and that is it has already come down a slick plate as you can see and has started to stratify already then when it come out of the tray it has another slick plate to stratify again before the riffles ! If you set the angles right the tray will catch up to 95% of the gold and the losses out the end have in my experience not worth worrying about ! Example 3 hrs digging = 3 grms ,rerun tailings ,mega tin sands , didn't quite make 2 grains ! I'm happy with that !! When someone says " my sluice dosent loose gold " I smile and nod and walk away ! lol!

someday Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:37 pm

Sluicing, The fine art of sharing, Some just like to share more Laughing

in gold

sailing out the end Laughing

and in the oversize pile Laughing

Jerry, just make sure you build your hopper on the lines of the banjo plans, that in itself is a winner.

Guest Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:11 pm

someday wrote:Sluicing, The fine art of sharing, Some just like to share more in gold sailing out the end and in the oversize pile

Jerry, just make sure you build your hopper on the lines of the banjo plans, that in itself is a winner.

Lol someday how true !!! Levelled a big pile of sand one time and it was the easiest 3 grms I ever got !! So I got the gold for making his mess look a lot better !! I do hope he got good gold from his efforts !

Guest Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:51 am

Someday mate the catch tray in that position dose and will work great. Slick areas is the key I have seen it time and time again when cleaning out my unit first comes the sand then the black sands followed by a carpet of gold. If your quick enough and have a pan handy you can capture the gold without the need to pan the gold out from the concentrates. As Ark has stated I also have picked up grams from other peoples wash. I think it is not so much what they are using but in the way they are using the equipment. People hop straight into banking with no real knowledge of what they are doing I mean these people cant even pan right but yet they seem to think they will make a killing. In this game there is no short cuts ya got to follow the steps which lead up to progression. It is then and only then that they will get good gold. I see all types of units on the net all claiming to be the ducks gut’s I look at the hoppers the punch plates extra and smile to myself thinking yer right. It is a bit like people who bang on about bilge pumps and highbankers as soon as I hear people talking this kind of talk I know just how much gold they will get their only playing around. But then having said all of the above I do love seeing this happen more gold for me.

someday Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:09 pm

G'day James, yep was quite blown away with the lack of heavy black sand down the rest of the sluice.
Normally the small catch tray in the centre would have a wall of heavy black sands tucked in behind the riffle, Not to be cheers

The catch tray has basically made my riffle section obsolete, though I'm not going to remove them just yet!!
after the 4 hour run I cleaned the riffle section into a separate bucket for a grand total of 20 dust specs,
Given the type of gold I was diggen, thats amazing! cheers

other peoples tailings, I was out Eldy about 8 months ago having a looksee, found a very recent tailings pile, did a quick pan,
the big flakes of gold lost to those tailings was scary, the share factor was running high with this one cheers

Guest Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:17 pm

The share factor is running high up this way too mate, I love it. Very Happy

Yes that tray can help you a lot, more so when sampling poor areas. I test the tray every half hour in poor ground I do this just by slipping it out and panning it off then replacing the tray. This can be done without a shut down.

Cheers mate James.

someday Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:41 pm

I would imagine the share factor could well contribute to some good finds on grounds otherwise passed by Very Happy

Me "waterfall" tray always did a great job cheers

the gold tray under the hopper has just added a whole new dimension to my HB.

Now I'm wondering if the poofteenth of gold dust found in the riffle section was all the riffles were capable of catching?
might try and run some felt under the riffles which should help prove yay or nay! or just go heaps smaller with the riffles??

Guest Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:25 pm

Round hole door mat ! Less cons and will catch the fly poop cheers

Guest Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:21 pm

The "waterfall" tray would work well in the position you have it placed, and the new tray oh yes it would be a whole new dimension for your banker mate. We only run with the one tray under the hopper it dose the job required of it rather well. I would run a bit of hessian instead of felt under the riffles that way you can burn it off when required. All the plastic stuff around today burns well but .......... Very Happy

cheers mate
James 101

Guest Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:22 pm

Ark wrote:Round hole door mat ! Less cons and will catch the fly poop

Yes indeed . cheers

Guest Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:04 pm

Like this one
Somedays sluice - Page 4 DSCF3046

someday Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:10 pm

Yep that be the one, this sluice of mine has cost more in doormats than anything else?????

Why Oh Why do I keep cutting the buggers the wrong way Q07

Guest Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:35 pm

someday wrote:Yep that be the one, this sluice of mine has cost more in doormats than anything else?????

Why Oh Why do I keep cutting the buggers the wrong way

I did that the first time !!! Subsequent times no problem , no beers before hand !! lol!

someday Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:12 pm

Gonna need a beer after this one cyclops

Me thinks me gone dun shot meself in me foot Sad

SO is that the way you really do run your mats? holes in line?

If that's the case me got heaps of mat I can cut up Laughing