corona virus crisis and detecting

anyone know of any good research links

Yellowmellow detecting is banned throughout Victoria except on your own private property until further notice. Coiltek are trying to stay open , but for how long who knows. But they are still taking online sales and orders at the moment. Maryborough business are starting to feel the pinch. And are closing or already closed. Like most small towns in the region. This virus will take its toll, not only with lives lost, but also business may never reopen or jobs found. It is hard times for us all. But we can get through this if we all do the right thing by each other. Listen to the Government warnings and heed to their recommendations and bide by their rules and regulations. Stay at home and only go out if necessary under the regulations that the Government has laid down. Quicker we do this the quicker will get back to some normality. So,Tim at the moment just stay put mate and we'll see you on the others side. Stay safe all
wombat

Thanks for the update

I see that the first prospector got fined near Maryborough (Vic) today. Very expensive outing.

Unfortunately there has been a lot of comments on Facebook that have been unhelpful and just plain stupid. Leadership from one particular group has been severely lacking. Having the opportunity to show leadership he chose instead to send a completely ambiguous message, telling his followers; " if you want to stay home, then stay the f... home, but if you wan't to go detecting, then go f...... detecting".
After this highly intelligent outburst all his moron sycophants heartily agreed with him. A sad reflection on a number of the prospecting fraternity. I hope this drongo is going to pay the fine of the mental giant that followed his advice.

It has become extremely hard to keep up with the does and dont's around this virus. The different rules for different states doesn't help.

In SA a week ago our Premier told us we could go to our holiday house for Easter, or go fishing or pretty much what we wanted to do.

Last night all that changed. Non essential travel is totally banned with police checks being enforced. So it it is stay home for Easter. No fishing, no going to your holiday home etc.

But it is OK to travel to the most dangerous places in the world, the supermarket

Actually went there this morning at 8am. Still no toilet paper, tissues, flour, hand sanitiser etc, etc.

We haven't bought toilet paper for two months and the last buy was a 24 roll pack. I have given up on looking for these things. Some say if you drive around to all the supermarkets you might find some. Is that essential travel?

If we run out of toilet paper and still can't buy any we are going to buy the Weekly Times. When I was a kid that was our preferred dunny paper. Cut into small squares it was hung on a wire in our outdoor Pan dunny. Women's Weekly was never any good, to hard and shiny just slipped over what it was supposed to clean. Any way it will give us something to read while we sit.

Stay safe everyone, just hang in there and it will finish eventually, hopefully before I die of old age.

davsgold wrote:Posted on facebook by PMAV

"So it's begun.. Prospector fined 6/04/2020 near Maryborough.
One of our committee was notified by Parks Vic.
As far as we know, NOT a PMAV member.
If it offends you that I called this guy an idiot, it because he is. From the reactions I never knew so many tough prospectors would get offended by that word, but If I see a fish, I will call it a fish.
The PMAV, media, Federal and State governments have all advised that non-essential travel is restricted. We fought to have local prospectors exempt from any ban and were told NO it is a 'blanket ban', so don't shoot the messenger.
STAY HOME or prospect on your land"

Whacking a fine on a lone fossicker is paranoia gone berserk........Like the nit wit who fined a girl for going on a driving lesson with her mum. They were in the car and not getting out of the car until going home and no doubt she needed to get her license in case mum got the virus and wound up in hospital.

Obviously some people may vagrantly bend or break the law in regard to the corona v but some of the people given the task of issuing these fines do not have the brains or reasoning power of a dehydrated walnut

Farmers markets here in castlemaine today,couldn't believe my eyes
Obviously cash being used,products touched and sniffed,what the!
Would it be considered essential travel if pulled over by the police,"where ya off to mate,the farmers market"
gosh ,we've got a long way to go.


cheers moredeep

They canceled the Talbot Farmers market last month due to the CV. Makes you wonder why the Castlemaine one wasn’t cancelled. Isn’t it part of the social gathering.


Cheers.

Mike.

Adrian, read between the lines. Its not about the fine on a lone fossiker, nor the fine for the girl going on a driving lesson with her mum they refer to. Its about the unforeseen accident, that might happen during ones journey, requiring emergency assistance through the close contact of other persons. Of course you are not going to catch COVID-19, nor pass COVID-19 on to another, if you haven't already got it & heaven help us all, it can't be easily caught from outside air alone, or we'd all be infected by now. This is the reason why they don't want anyone out there participating on an outdoor hobby/assignment "unnecessarily".

Cheers Kon.

yep baffling mike,the main street this morning looked like business as usual and a farmers market in the arvo??????????????????????????????????????????????
Just have a look at your local fish and chip shop this Friday,it'll be chaos ,people obviously can't cook battered fish any more.
I'm happy I can cook a pretty mean crumbed fish and crispy chips

cheers moredeep

Actually I had a thought about what would happen if we had an incident out detecting and had to call emergency services,I could imaging the media coverage wouldn't be in our favor.One prospector here was warned to stay put yesterday or be fined for moving to any other location.He is a permanent bush resident living in his vehicle so I don't know how that works.

Does anyone know if Coiltek at Maryborough are open these days or have they gone online like many business

it's all double standards Dave,I,m abiding by the laws,but I'm failing to see the logic in some of these restrictions.
Tonight on ABC news they showed a very busy bike track in melb full of cyclist.if a person with asymptomatic covid19 coughed it would be in droplet formation for the riders behind to in hale?
I saw our little corner tennis court in use again ,4 people playing in a 2 court area a fifth person being the umpire,that's five people.Is that ok???
I will be politely again emailing my local member about these rules,explaining how illogical they are.
I know how diabolical this situation is,but I still feel like I have to question some of these decision.
As I've stated before,it's mainly to keep our city cousins in the city and to stop many thousands of people leaving.
I have asked for a slight relaxing of the restrictions for people living in the country.
Feel free to email your mp's,keep it civil ,be polite and just maybe they'll ease the bans after Easter.

cheers moredeep

Maybe all of the differing control regulations between States are simply test cases to find out which actions have the best results. In short we are guinea pigs for the medical profession and governments.
If that were the case then our lives are being played with at great cost to the country. Is it really worth it?.......Of course it is worth it. How else can we find out what kills people and what saves lives in a pandemic or biological warfare attack.

Upon further deliberation, the Vic Police withdrew/cancelled that fine Dave, stating that being a commercial business still in operation & as long as all other corona virus safety criteria had been adhered to, a local does have the right to turn up for services offered, such that of the commercial car wash business in question. Not like a local inner city brothel recently, which were booked twice over consecutive nights for breaking the corona virus laws of social distancing.    Funny thing was when police were called in to check out why the gathering of so many people standing out front of a certain premises, they were shocked to see lines longer than that of centre link & when questioning individuals, all claimed it were part of essential travel.    

Cheers Kon.

Kon61gold wrote:Upon further deliberation, the Vic Police withdrew/cancelled that fine Dave, stating that being a commercial business still in operation & as long as all other corona virus safety criteria had been adhered to, a local does have the right to turn up for services offered, such that of the commercial car wash business in question. Not like a local inner city brothel recently, which were booked twice over consecutive nights for breaking the corona virus laws of social distancing.    Funny thing was when police were called in to check out why the gathering of so many people standing out front of a certain premises, they were shocked to see lines longer than that of centre link & when questioning individuals, all claimed it were part of essential travel.    

Cheers Kon.

Arhhh those ladies of the night. Where there's a willy there's a way.

Those people need a clap


cheers moredeep

Nice ta have a bit of a chuckle.

Moredeep good idea about contacting your local Pollie. But there is only one problem with that, Parliament will not be sitting again until August because of the virus. The Andrews Government and Andrews himself have elected 8 people only out of the whole Labor Party to implement these restrictions. Andrews himself being one of the 8. No other party member (Labor) will have a say in the decision making process. Members of the Legislative Council of the Upper House have come together (all parties) to form a committee to ask the questions why, why have others in Parliament have had no say in the final decision making process on restrictions. As some fines issued have gone overboard and of on real logic involved. There saying some business house are open for business but when people go to them they can be fined as it is not a central service. A man coming home from night shift after doing a 12 hr shift delivering food items was fined at 1.30 am for washing his car at a car wash after his shift, instead of going straight home. If you can't wash your car at a car wash, then why are car wash even open for business??. This car wash is open 24/7. It was the Purple Octopus Multiwash Car Wash and Dog Wash in Hoppers Crossing. Kon your very own local Lord Mayor is tell the people of Bendigo to shop locally. These adverts are on local TV. But if your local car wash is open for business you could get a fine for using it. This is just some of the reasons why most Politicians are now asking the question about the logic in some of the restriction and how they are being interpreted by the police and by these 8 on the committee. In some cases they have gone overboard with these restriction. Some restrictions I agree with, but others I don't under the present way they have been set up. This is what the other Pollies are questioning and wants the Government to look at easing some of the lockdown and peoples movement as long as they still practice Social distancing and health practices. I have spoken personally to some Politicians in this regard and they have all agreed that some of the restriction have gone overboard and with no real logic.
Wombat

I hear you loud and clear wombat,we are truly living in strange times and uncharted waters.
We had our local busker down the street this morning, I,m not sure why,I'm assuming it not his full time job with an ABN.
He could get done for loitering and accepting DIRTY money
The street was like; business as usual,people lined up to go into the fruit and veg shop,? ,,couldn't they do it during the week when quieter??
As we know people are creatures of habit and won't change even if it means catching a dose of you know what.
As to the pollie thing I think we just keep on sending them very nice and pleasant emails asking for some easing of restrictions for us country folk.

cheers moredeep

I too hear you loud & clear Bill, if only politicians during the discussion of new laws being introduced, weren't sharing/passing round the same hooka/argileh, the average person might'v had a much clearer understanding by now, of what exactly they can or cannot do.

Cheers Kon.

yellowmellow wrote:Does anyone know if Coiltek at Maryborough are open these days or have they gone online like many business

My understanding is that they will be back open after the Easter break.

Kon61gold wrote:I too hear you loud & clear Bill, if only politicians during the discussion of new laws being introduced, weren't sharing/passing round the same hooka/argileh, the average person might'v had a much clearer understanding by now, of what exactly they can or cannot do.

Cheers Kon.

Sweden with half the population of  Australia is one country with very relaxed corona virus  restrictions that are not enforced by law. Sweden has many bars and restaurants still open and allows groups of up to 50 people and  lets people make common sense decisions as regards travel and activities. The outcomes of this compared to Australia are as follows :
Sweden
Infected 9,685  (the infection rate is close to or over exponential)
deaths    870

Australia
Infected 6,238(the infection  growth rate =.85   ie much less than exponential)
deaths    54

Now which country would you rather be in even if some of the restrictions  seem over the top?

You do not catch a virus by handling cash. These restrictions are just ridiculous.

Planetcare I'm referring only to clarity of law, not having to have the average person out there thinking, well does it mean this or that? If law becomes questionable, it gives reason for doubt.
Well, how lucky we are to be living in such a great nation as this, for the stats speak for themselves. This is one of the reasons why we shouldn't be complacent nor take anything for granted.
On another note, could we please stop knit picking on our police force for doing their job. They're only human like all the rest of us, they make the odd  mistake, with the difference here being, they're risking their own lives on a daily basis, trying to stop the ignorant/arrogant from breaking the law, for the sake of us all.
In a time of crises en-gripping a nation, I dread to imagine what would happen if our police force gave up on us.
As the saying goes, blame not the messenger, but the message.
Keogh I agree, but it is not the handling of cash they're referring to, but someone who ends up rubbing their eyes or putting their fingers in their mouth after handling money contaminated by live droplets of corona virus.

Cheers Kon.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-coins-carry-viruses-better-than-paper-money-experts-say-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

It is possible even if chances are low of contracting virus,Why risk it?
Feel free to keep using,don't let me stop you.

cheers moredeep