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Post  PeterInSa on Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:47 pm

Re...So much time has passed since the practice began that people have forgotten the true reason for..... Fems wearing jeans with rips at the knees.

I can't stand it, cut the legs off and wear as shorts ( but only around the house)

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Post  xmas tree on Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:28 pm

They were designed so they could discreetly pan for gold whilst pretending to drink at the rivers edge!!

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Post  Kon61gold on Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:09 pm

Shocked Q24 Q35 Good one xmas tree. On another note, well, of all the barking/squawking/complaining about the newly introduced government app, for the better monitoring of COVID-19 amongst people, that didn't take to long. The government were hoping to get a million people on the app within the first 4 days of introduction, instead they got a million people on it within the first 5 hrs. Q35 So much for all the great concerns of infringement of privacy the app might have? Q35 "They may take our lives, but they will never take our freedom" Shocked Q35

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Post  adrian ss on Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:18 pm

My wife received a bogus corona safe app on her phone 3 days ago before the real app was released.
. So be certain that the app you have downloaded is the genuine item before you start feeding info into it.
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Post  Kon61gold on Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:30 pm

Thanks for the advice on that Adrian. No doubt cyber crime is rife at the moment.

Cheers Kon. T25
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Post  davsgold on Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:56 pm

Hey Kon, not sure how many have loaded the APP now, but they did say that it needed at least 40% to be effective, so at 1M it sill has a way to go.
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Post  Kon61gold on Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:04 pm

I think that were more of wishful thinking than set down law Dave. It's more of a take whatever or whom ever they can get & the more they get, the merrier. Interesting to see how this newly adapted App pans out over the next few weeks. I suppose better safe than sorry & anything to get life as close to back to normal, we should be right. As long as I don't hear of another Kon, with a passport containing all my credentials, but looks nothing like me, I should be right hey? Shocked Q35
BTW, it were just mentioned in the news now 1.5 million have accepted/downloaded the COVID-19 tracing App.

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Post  adrian ss on Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:12 am

Where did the notion come from that says kids are less likely to be infected by the virus than adults>?
    from my exp with our daughter and during primary and high school it was clear that the kids brought home every disease known to man from school into the household. Whether it was a cold, the flu, or a bellyache it did not matter; Once it was in the school all the kids got sick. No matter what precauction/s we took to try to avoid catching these school bugs we still copped it.
Sending the kids back to school in the middle of this crisis will be a disaster.
Most adults have built up significant resistance to colds and flu's but if kids today have resistance to the corona virus then maybe we should be looking at their blood and antibody production. I see no reason why children who have had very little exposure to diseases should somehow have resistance to this new virus.

There are 4,000,000 Teens in Australia so it stands to reason that less of them will be effected by this virus than the remaining 20,000,000 adults.
Adults are out and about working to keep their grubby teens alive and a lot of the adults also travel the world and Australia far more than teenagers therefore they are more likely to be exposed to imported diseases.

The virus doesn't know about children or people of any kind; It simply floats about waiting to get down the throat of whatever it can and to dig into the soft tissue like what is at the back of your throat and start reproducing
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Post  granite2 on Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:19 am

So far since this virus arrived in SA there have been no child to child infections in SA schools. There has been no child to teacher infections. There has been one teacher to child infection and they have recovered weeks ago. We can only hope this state of affairs continues and we have no more infections any where in the state. Last time I looked, yesterday, there had been no new infections in SA for 4 days. We should be looking at a soft lowering of some restrictions within the state within the next couple of weeks.
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Post  Nightjar on Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:21 am

Well if the Covid - 19 doesn't get us at least this is heartening news.

Causes and rating of deaths in Australia 2018.
Cause of death;
Ischaemic heart disease - Rates #1 (17,500 deaths) affraid

Influenza & Pneumonia - Rates #12 (3000 deaths) V15 Camping Fire rain clould

Melanoma - Rates #20 (2100 deaths) Prospectors spending too much time in the sun!!!!!! Detecting Camp Fire Camping Van Suspect

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Post  PeterInSa on Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:32 am

Re (Melanoma - Rates #20 (2100 deaths) Prospectors spending too much time in the sun!!!!!!)

I have a skin Burn off every 3 months, ( except during this virus period) maybe 10 spots burnt off my face some on hands/arms, not helped by my growing up in Qld as a kid, surfing/fishing, now prospecting but now wear long sleeve skirt, riggers gloves and cap with neck cover with separate flynet.

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Post  adrian ss on Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:45 pm

The current percentage of corona cases in Australia is 0.0003 % of the population.
The percentage of younger people between the ages of 5 to 29 who have contracted this virus is 0.027% of that age group.
The percentage of school age children (Primary and Secondary age) who have contracted the corona virus is .0056% of that population group which is a much higher percentage than the 29 to 70 year age group.
Now unless my figures are from an incorrect source then it would seem that sending the kids back to school will spread this virus throughout the schools and back into the community??
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Post  granite2 on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:06 pm

According to the figures I have for SA I think they are safer at school. To spread a virus you have to have it first.
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Post  adrian ss on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:34 pm

The figures speak for themselves.
There is a higher percentage of young school age children in their age group population with this virus than the percentage of older people in the overall population. Therefore when they go back to school those who are carrying the virus will spread it quickly to the rest of the school/s.
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Post  moredeep on Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:28 pm

PeterInSa wrote:Re (Melanoma - Rates #20 (2100 deaths) Prospectors spending too much time in the sun!!!!!!)

I have a skin Burn off every 3 months, ( except during this virus period) maybe 10 spots burnt off my face some on hands/arms, not helped by my growing up in Qld as a kid, surfing/fishing, now prospecting but now wear long sleeve skirt, riggers gloves and cap with neck cover with separate flynet.
I'm in the same boat pete,spent my youth at the pool 60's & 70's ,red head and all [Scottish blood] ,burnt to a crisp every week end,no one gave a rats bottom back then.


cheers   moreburnt Shocked
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Post  Mechanic on Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:44 pm

adrian ss wrote:Where did the notion come from that says kids are less likely to be infected by the virus than adults>?
    from my exp with our daughter and during primary and high school it was clear that the kids brought home every disease known to man from school into the household. Whether it was a cold, the flu, or a bellyache it did not matter; Once it was in the school all the kids got sick. No matter what precauction/s we took to try to avoid catching these school bugs we still copped it.
Sending the kids back to school in the middle of this crisis will be a disaster.
Most adults have built up significant resistance to colds and flu's but if kids today have resistance to the corona virus then maybe we should be looking at their blood and antibody production. I see no reason why children who have had very little exposure to diseases should somehow have resistance to this new virus.

There are 4,000,000 Teens in Australia so it stands to reason that less of them will be effected by this virus than the remaining 20,000,000 adults.
Adults are out and about working to keep their grubby teens alive and a lot of the adults also travel the world and Australia far more than teenagers therefore they are more likely to be exposed to imported diseases.

The virus doesn't know about children or people of any kind; It simply floats about waiting to get down the throat of whatever it can and to dig into the soft tissue like what is at the back of your throat and start reproducing
I could not agree more Adrian! Our chief health officer needs his head checked! But it is just like when he said "There is no evidence of person to person transmission in Australia" at the beginning of all this.
What did he think? When the virus comes below the equator it behaves differently to a virus?
Now they are finding that cats can be infected and what do they say "there is no evidence of animal to animal or animal to person transmission" Is he for real? Is he part of the mob that want us mere mortal humans exterminated from this planet?

Does he really think that kids won't spread it to other kids and their parents? Surely not. Rolling Eyes

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Post  davsgold on Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:55 pm

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Post  planetcare on Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:04 pm

Mechanic wrote:
adrian ss wrote:Where did the notion come from that says kids are less likely to be infected by the virus than adults>?
    from my exp with our daughter and during primary and high school it was clear that the kids brought home every disease known to man from school into the household. Whether it was a cold, the flu, or a bellyache it did not matter; Once it was in the school all the kids got sick. No matter what precauction/s we took to try to avoid catching these school bugs we still copped it.
Sending the kids back to school in the middle of this crisis will be a disaster.
Most adults have built up significant resistance to colds and flu's but if kids today have resistance to the corona virus then maybe we should be looking at their blood and antibody production. I see no reason why children who have had very little exposure to diseases should somehow have resistance to this new virus.

There are 4,000,000 Teens in Australia so it stands to reason that less of them will be effected by this virus than the remaining 20,000,000 adults.
Adults are out and about working to keep their grubby teens alive and a lot of the adults also travel the world and Australia far more than teenagers therefore they are more likely to be exposed to imported diseases.

The virus doesn't know about children or people of any kind; It simply floats about waiting to get down the throat of whatever it can and to dig into the soft tissue like what is at the back of your throat and start reproducing
I could not agree more Adrian! Our chief health officer needs his head checked! But it is just like when he said "There is no evidence of person to person transmission in Australia" at the beginning of all this.
What did he think? When the virus comes below the equator it behaves differently to a virus?
Now they are finding that cats can be infected and what do they say "there is no evidence of animal to animal or animal to person transmission" Is he for real? Is he part of the mob that want us mere mortal humans exterminated from this planet?

Does he really think that kids won't spread it to other kids and their parents? Surely not. Rolling Eyes

Mick

I think that this just highlights many of the unknowns about this virus and the differing opinions of medical officers and epidemiologists.

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Post  flouro on Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:26 pm

Hi All,

Latest from England is that Kids do get it, albeit slightly different was also noticed in I think they said Italy....and they want to send the kids back to school

The daughter hopefully goes in next week to get her nose removed and replaced a little later..all because of a little sunburn on her nose when she was a kid

A question is...how much did the govt know about this virus early on and why didnt they isolate us earlier than they did

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Post  adrian ss on Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:56 am

Mechanic wrote:
adrian ss wrote:Where did the notion come from that says kids are less likely to be infected by the virus than adults>?
    from my exp with our daughter and during primary and high school it was clear that the kids brought home every disease known to man from school into the household. Whether it was a cold, the flu, or a bellyache it did not matter; Once it was in the school all the kids got sick. No matter what precauction/s we took to try to avoid catching these school bugs we still copped it.
Sending the kids back to school in the middle of this crisis will be a disaster.
Most adults have built up significant resistance to colds and flu's but if kids today have resistance to the corona virus then maybe we should be looking at their blood and antibody production. I see no reason why children who have had very little exposure to diseases should somehow have resistance to this new virus.

There are 4,000,000 Teens in Australia so it stands to reason that less of them will be effected by this virus than the remaining 20,000,000 adults.
Adults are out and about working to keep their grubby teens alive and a lot of the adults also travel the world and Australia far more than teenagers therefore they are more likely to be exposed to imported diseases.

The virus doesn't know about children or people of any kind; It simply floats about waiting to get down the throat of whatever it can and to dig into the soft tissue like what is at the back of your throat and start reproducing
I could not agree more Adrian! Our chief health officer needs his head checked! But it is just like when he said "There is no evidence of person to person transmission in Australia" at the beginning of all this.
What did he think? When the virus comes below the equator it behaves differently to a virus?
Now they are finding that cats can be infected and what do they say "there is no evidence of animal to animal or animal to person transmission" Is he for real? Is he part of the mob that want us mere mortal humans exterminated from this planet?

Does he really think that kids won't spread it to other kids and their parents? Surely not. Rolling Eyes

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Can you imagine what the jurno's would have done with that statement from the Health Officer if it had come from Donald Trump. Rolling Eyes
What in the name of all sanity would make a person of the training and knowledge required to attain the position of Chief health Officer/Minister make such a mindless statement
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Post  davsgold on Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:17 am

adrian ss wrote:
Mechanic wrote:
adrian ss wrote:Where did the notion come from that says kids are less likely to be infected by the virus than adults>?
    from my exp with our daughter and during primary and high school it was clear that the kids brought home every disease known to man from school into the household. Whether it was a cold, the flu, or a bellyache it did not matter; Once it was in the school all the kids got sick. No matter what precauction/s we took to try to avoid catching these school bugs we still copped it.
Sending the kids back to school in the middle of this crisis will be a disaster.
Most adults have built up significant resistance to colds and flu's but if kids today have resistance to the corona virus then maybe we should be looking at their blood and antibody production. I see no reason why children who have had very little exposure to diseases should somehow have resistance to this new virus.

There are 4,000,000 Teens in Australia so it stands to reason that less of them will be effected by this virus than the remaining 20,000,000 adults.
Adults are out and about working to keep their grubby teens alive and a lot of the adults also travel the world and Australia far more than teenagers therefore they are more likely to be exposed to imported diseases.

The virus doesn't know about children or people of any kind; It simply floats about waiting to get down the throat of whatever it can and to dig into the soft tissue like what is at the back of your throat and start reproducing
I could not agree more Adrian! Our chief health officer needs his head checked! But it is just like when he said "There is no evidence of person to person transmission in Australia" at the beginning of all this.
What did he think? When the virus comes below the equator it behaves differently to a virus?
Now they are finding that cats can be infected and what do they say "there is no evidence of animal to animal or animal to person transmission" Is he for real? Is he part of the mob that want us mere mortal humans exterminated from this planet?

Does he really think that kids won't spread it to other kids and their parents? Surely not. Rolling Eyes

Mick

Can you imagine what the jurno's would have done with that statement from the Health Officer if it had come from Donald Trump.  Rolling Eyes
What in the name of all sanity would make a person of the training and knowledge required to attain the position of Chief health Officer/Minister make such a mindless statement

The "jurno's" /media just keep pushing out the agenda they want, (or are told), remember the government advertisements on TV are keeping the media afloat so it goes without saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you. As always with the media, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Yes the "Chief" medical officer has done a complete backflip/turnaround from his original statements at the beginning of all this, and we are expected to forget about the earlier statements, and now believe the current statements.

The media just love to poke fun at the Donald T as it gets them more viewers/ratings etc.

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Post  Reg Wilson on Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:54 am

The chief medical officer did not get his position through ability, but was a political appointment by the same people who were committed to attending their favorite football teams match and going to their Hillsong church gatherings.
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Post  davsgold on Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:31 am

Reg Wilson wrote:The chief medical officer did not get his position through ability, but was a political appointment by the same people who were committed to attending their favorite football teams match and going to their Hillsong church gatherings.

Spot on Reg
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Post  PeterInSa on Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:59 am

Went to download the Covidsafe App yesterday and my Smartphone is not compatible or ....

Turns out you need Android version 6 and my operating system is 4.04 the latest for my phone, others according to the Adelaide Advertiser on Version 5 have the same problem.

So no tracing for me.

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Post  granite2 on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:02 am

Yep, spot on, Reg. As Australia is a predominantly Christian country and full of mad footy followers it is great to see our elected officials are the same as us. lol!
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Post  Reg Wilson on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:36 am

We did not elect the chief medical officer. He was appointed, by his mate. Dumb and dumber.
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Post  Kon61gold on Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:32 pm

Regardless of who chose who & by what means, the early steps taken by our government in order to prevent the COVID-19 from spreading/killing even more & more people are to be commended. Many a nation would like to be in our shoes but are not.
As for COVID-19 it does not discriminate by age alone, but by each ones individual health circumstance. Children/teenagers are not immune/risk free from it, but because of their youth, are better at fighting it off (once again depending on each ones health circumstances)
Children because of not quite understanding the meaning of social distancing, are more likely to contract the virus from an infected person, with little effects & then pass it on to others that can have devastating consequences.  
What people must realise here, is that no one yet quite knows the long term, internal body organ scaring effects, COVID-19 has or will have on its survivors of the disease/virus.
Because of our low infection/death rate, no doubt pressure is mounting on politicians to get this country back on track (this is most likely why you'll be hearing more & more of an about face by many politicians/medical staff, regardless of what were first said) & moving forward once more towards opening up the economy.
I for one, cannot blame the  Victorian Premier, for being as cautious as he has been, towards opening up the doors to the masses to quickly to soon, considering the  type of virus this is, can have far more dire consequences, if we were to be hit, with a second wave of COVID-19 than the first, allowing all that has been set in place, go down the drain through carelessness/stupidity. This is why the App & the far more COVID-19 testing sites across Australia have been set up, so that the government can be on top of things quickly, preventing another major outbreak from occurring.  
Take care out there everyone.

Cheers Kon. T25
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Post  Nightjar on Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:24 pm

Same here regards G2G App download. My Samsung Galaxy is not compatable. No way am I investing in a new phone just for this.
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Post  davsgold on Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:28 pm

An APP based on one that started in Singapore, then our government in its wisdom sent it to India for a final tweek, and phones built in China, and the data stored in the USA by Google.

What could possibly go wrong. Laughing
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Post  Slavitoooo on Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:49 pm

flouro wrote:Hi All,

Latest from England is that Kids do get it, albeit slightly different was also noticed in I think they said Italy....and they want to send the kids back to school

The daughter hopefully goes in next week to get her nose removed and replaced a little later..all because of a little sunburn on her nose when she was a kid

A question is...how much did the govt know about this virus early on and why didnt they isolate us earlier than they did

Ron

Did you mean that?

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