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Post  Nightjar on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:11 am

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What do you see as the political agenda and who do you think is behind it? What is your point about the influenza stats around the world in preceding years?

The political agenda is mine and mine only (will reveal when proven wrong) and if you can't fathom out my point about influenza stats you need to take up another agenda other than Planetcare.







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Post  Nightjar on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:14 am

PeterInSa wrote:moredeep, have sent you a PM, its in my outbox, how do I get it sent.

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Peter, One possible reason is, your pm box maybe full, check and clean out if need be?
Keep tucked in over there neighbour.


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Post  Jen on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:21 am

PeterInSa wrote:moredeep, have sent you a PM, its in my outbox, how do I get it sent.

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If it’s in your outbox, it will disappear once Moredeep comes on line and receives it.
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Post  Nightjar on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:30 am

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Post  planetcare on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:41 am

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planetcare wrote:
What do you see as the political agenda and who do you think is behind it? What is your point about the influenza stats around the world in preceding years?

The political agenda is mine and mine only (will reveal when proven wrong) and if you can't fathom out my point about influenza stats you need to take up another agenda other than Planetcare.

If your point about  the influenza stats is that influenza kills hundreds of thousands of people each  year and yet we don't impose extreme measures and social distancing like with the corona virus pandemic you are ignoring some crucial facts.Firstly corona virus is demonstrably far more infectious  than influenza and thus has the potential to infect far more people globally than influenza.Secondarily we have some herd immunity to influenza and we have  a vaccine.With corona we have no herd  immunity and no  vaccine or anti viral  treatments. All these facts mean that corona virus has the potential to kill millions of people globally! Modelling from the USA alone suggests at least 100,000- 250,000 corona  fatalities. Its worth noting the New York has gone from one corona case to over 45,000 in  less than 2 weeks and its health system is being overwhelmed as it in  UK ,Spain .and Italy.As for the death toll from  corona let just look at the figures so far:Coronavirus Cases:935,189  Deaths:47,192. By the end of this month we could have more than 20  million infections globally and  more than 500,000 dead unless we slow down the rate of infections!

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Post  planetcare on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:50 am

"As we enter the fourth month since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, I am deeply concerned about the rapid escalation and global spread of infection," Director-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.

"Over the past 5 weeks, we have witnessed a near exponential growth in the number of new cases, reaching almost every country, territory and area.

"The number of deaths has more than doubled in the past week. In the next few days we will reach one million confirmed cases, and 50,000 deaths."

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Post  PeterInSa on Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 am

Good one Nightjar re your Y2Ply comment, something that could be copyrighted if original.

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Post  Reg Wilson on Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:39 pm

Checking some of the detecting comments on Facebook I was astounded by the number of selfish, inconsiderate statements from so called prospectors, many of whom are in a younger age group.
The " I will do what I like" attitude seemed to prevail with these people quoting what they considered as loopholes which would allow them to go detecting. It's hard to believe that they think only of themselves with little or no consideration for others. Anyone of the general public reading these posts would have a very poor impression of the prospecting fraternity, and to be honest I am having difficulty disagreeing with them.
A common argument is that "I will travel to the goldfields without interaction with anyone and will not even meet anyone out there. How can that hurt anything"? Of course they do not take into account unforeseen circumstances, such as an accident or breakdown either on the road or in the bush, which would then see the need to have emergency services or others intervene. All manner of greedy attitudes are being aired by some people who should know better, and who one would expect to set a good example.
Some have even seen fit to use this dire situation to air their lunatic conspiracy theories, adding confusion to those of limited mental capacity.
I for one will not be going detecting on other than my own land, regardless of the fact that I live adjacent to state forest that has yield some pretty impressive finds for me in the past.
How plain can the message be?..............STAY HOME.
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Post  planetcare on Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:35 pm

Reg Wilson wrote:Checking some of the detecting comments on Facebook I was astounded by the number of selfish, inconsiderate statements from so called prospectors, many of whom are in a younger age group.
The " I will do what I like" attitude seemed to prevail with these people quoting what they considered as loopholes which would allow them to go detecting. It's hard to believe that they think only of themselves with little or no consideration for others. Anyone of the general public reading these posts would have a very poor impression of the prospecting fraternity, and to be honest I am having difficulty disagreeing with them.
A common argument is that "I will travel to the goldfields without interaction with anyone and will not even meet anyone out there. How can that hurt anything"? Of course they do not take into account unforeseen circumstances, such as an accident or breakdown either on the road or in the bush, which would then see the need to have emergency services or others intervene. All manner of greedy attitudes are being aired by some people who should know better, and who one would expect to set a good example.
Some have even seen fit to use this dire situation to air their lunatic conspiracy theories, adding confusion to those of limited mental capacity.
I for one will not be going detecting on other than my own land, regardless of the fact that I live adjacent to state forest that has yield some pretty impressive finds for me in the past.
How plain can the message be?..............STAY HOME.

Unfortunately  prospectors are not the only ones  with these greedy attitudes! Some people are still traveling to go boating, fishing, hunting or playing golf, camping or a range of  other  non essential activities!

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Post  planetcare on Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:57 pm


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Post  davsgold on Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:25 pm

Reg Wilson wrote:Checking some of the detecting comments on Facebook I was astounded by the number of selfish, inconsiderate statements from so called prospectors, many of whom are in a younger age group.
The " I will do what I like" attitude seemed to prevail with these people quoting what they considered as loopholes which would allow them to go detecting. It's hard to believe that they think only of themselves with little or no consideration for others. Anyone of the general public reading these posts would have a very poor impression of the prospecting fraternity, and to be honest I am having difficulty disagreeing with them.
A common argument is that "I will travel to the goldfields without interaction with anyone and will not even meet anyone out there. How can that hurt anything"? Of course they do not take into account unforeseen circumstances, such as an accident or breakdown either on the road or in the bush, which would then see the need to have emergency services or others intervene. All manner of greedy attitudes are being aired by some people who should know better, and who one would expect to set a good example.
Some have even seen fit to use this dire situation to air their lunatic conspiracy theories, adding confusion to those of limited mental capacity.
I for one will not be going detecting on other than my own land, regardless of the fact that I live adjacent to state forest that has yield some pretty impressive finds for me in the past.
How plain can the message be?..............STAY HOME.

I am thinking along the same lines as you Reg, what part of STAY HOME don't they understand.

Quite a few of these that are looking for a loophole are just hobbyist anyway, how about sparing a thought for the thousands of small business people that have been put totally out of business and likely to go broke at best, it was there lively hood and the lively hood of any employee that worked for them that is now on the scrapheap, it was not just there hobby.

We need to get real about what we whinge about

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Post  moredeep on Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:55 pm

Went a did some essential stuff this arvo and saw several senior citizens[well over 70] walking around town ,but that's legal if they are doing something essential.
One young fella[75+] decided to cross the road near the botanical gardens ,obviously a little hard of hearing decided to step out into on coming car,I gave him a yell
he did a quick u turn which intern made him a little unsteady on his feet. Undieturd he continued on to have a crack at crossing the train track[no lights].phew he made it!
Was it fate that I was there to yell out or should I have been home?
My neighbor down the rd ,old mal only just turned 90 has been driving out to his 100 acre block since I have known him [15yrs] DAILY ,nothing will stop him.
People going out doing their daily chores don't work on the "what if's" .
So it's not just the young ones doing "silly" stuff, they're just getting on with own their life,do they care?some do some don't who knows?

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Post  Kon61gold on Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:46 pm

Whether through arrogance, ignorance, or just plain stubbornness,  if someone wishes to play Russian Roulette with their own life/lives by all means do so, but playing Russian Roulette with another mans life or lives, is just blatant criminal. Some here will say that the cracking down on people of high risk, by issuing hefty fines, is just another government quick money making scheme, but I say to those same inconsiderate people, would there ever have been the need of police patrolling/fines, if we all adhered to what has been asked of us to do? Besides, you wouldn't be thinking nor talking like that, if it were one of your own loved ones, all alone in hospital ward, fighting for their life, knowing they had contracted COVID-19 through the blatant stupidity/carelessness of another.
All things must come to pass & so will this, but not if we're divided in thought/deed. We are fighting a dangerous battle of both mind & body & the worst is yet to come. Stay calm, stay safe, stay at home & do what is right by one another, so that we may all get through this current crises/situation, with minimal casualties.

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Post  davsgold on Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:43 pm

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Post  Kon61gold on Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:23 pm

Hi Dave, just wondering what they mean by the word "conficated" Shocked Q35

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Post  llanbric on Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:26 pm

Turned into confectionary?

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Post  davsgold on Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:29 pm

Kon61gold wrote:Hi Dave, just wondering what they mean by the word "conficated" Shocked Q35

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Q35 that bit was just to keep you on your toes Con, Con fi scated Q35
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Post  Kon61gold on Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:33 pm

I still prefer llanbrics confectionery part. Q35

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Post  moredeep on Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:45 pm

Luckily I can walk my dogs cheers
Hey there's an idea,i'll rig a coil on the dogs underside ,make a little back set up for battery and box and presto,canine detection unit cheers cheers Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post  Axtyr on Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:25 pm

Hi all.

Unfortunately we have no choice and should be adhering to the government's directives as we are under a "state of emergency".

I assume fishing, golf and prospecting are still allowed in N.S.W. so you all know where you can drive to for prospecting.

Regards Axtyr.

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Post  moredeep on Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:31 pm

One in all in, make it national??


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Post  planetcare on Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:34 pm

Axtyr wrote:Hi all.

Unfortunately we have no choice and should be adhering to the government's directives as we are under a "state of emergency".

I assume fishing, golf and prospecting are still allowed in N.S.W. so you all know where you can drive to for prospecting.

Regards Axtyr.

I doubt that driving to  NSW from Vic to prospect would be considered an essential or necessary  activity!

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Post  planetcare on Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:36 pm

moredeep wrote:One in all in, make it national??


cheers   moredeep

Very sensible idea!

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Post  Wombat on Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:43 pm

In Victoria they have as from yesterday, banned ALL outside activities, except on your own property. You can go outside beyond your home for four reasons: food and supplies, medical care and caregiving, exercise, and work or education. This is under restriction 3. Now the Andrews Government are say they may be bringing in restriction 4 in the next few days.
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Post  mbasko on Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:04 pm

moredeep wrote:One in all in, make it national??


cheers   moredeep
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Nah keep it in Victoria. The lefties have got ya's by the short & curlies now tongue Laughing
No use coming to NSW, no gold left. We all travel to Victoria  Wink

I've already made a personal decision to not go out detecting anyway but IMO it won't be long until other states release a similar clarification on what's exercise vs recreational activities unfortunately.
I also believe at this time that where possible if someone can continue their recreational activities, locally, to some extent (even for short times) then it would have helped greatly in maintaining their mental health/wellbeing thru this.

A lot of hypocrisy unfortunately. I can go to work with 100+ other people travelling from all over the place but I can't go sit at the park by myself, detect, visit family/friends etc.
I can see the need for what's happening but I can also see why it makes no sense to some.

NSW still appears ok?
From Shooters, Fishers & Farmers Party
Fishing and hunting permitted in NSW

During the week, SFF sent a letter to Police Minister David Elliott requesting clarity on what was considered 'exercise', 'essential' and how fishing and hunting fit into the new rules. 

Since then, we received confirmation that both fishing and hunting is still permitted in NSW in certain and specific circumstances.

Here are the rules surrounding this:

*Long distance travel to hunt or fish is not permitted - movement laws still apply. This is not a reason to travel into Regional NSW.

*Fishing is permitted provided you adhere to the social distancing and movement laws.

 *Hunting on your private property as long as you adhere to the social distancing and movement laws. 

 *If you hunt close to home, and it's what you normally do for table meat and exercise, you can continue. Remember to follow all other guidelines.

 


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Post  moredeep on Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:20 pm

CRIKEY,I've fixed the ride on.mowed the grass.
changed the oil and filter in both cars.
planted a veggie garden.
About to make a home brew,ordered some nice hops as well
Me thinks I might be going out to hard,I'll run out of things to do.
Oops there is the bath room to paint,I mightn't mention that one, hopefully someone might forget What a Face Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post  Kon61gold on Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:40 pm

Forget, forget you say? Shocked Now that we're more confined to one another, the better half, is watching us like a hawk on prey moredeep. Q35 We can run, but there's nowhere to hide. Shocked Q35

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Post  moredeep on Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:16 pm

lol!
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Post  yellowmellow on Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:36 am

detecting only allowed on own private land
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Post  davsgold on Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:19 pm

yellowmellow wrote:detecting only allowed on own private land

and only if it's you own land and you don't need to drive anywhere to get to it, like your house is on the block of ground and that is where you live, kinda like going for a stroll in your back yard in the city
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