Gold Is Where You Find It.

Man im gonna hunt this one down, cant wait to see it.
Looks like a Rip Roaring Tale of GOLD








Pete

Good luck, I cant find it..

Looks great Pete, thanks for the heads up

no wonder the yanks came to Oz lookin for gold, only the pommy army was shootin at em here, not the well known greed of the pioneering yankee high and mighty. bunch of Pr**ks they are.
I make no apology for this statement. The yanks have a lot to answer for regardless of our so called Alliance.

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"SLEDGE FISTED DRAMA WROUGHT FROM THE SOUL AND SINEW OF A MIGHTY RACE OF MEN!"

Snuggs2012 wrote:no wonder the yanks came to Oz lookin for gold, only the pommy army was shootin at em here, not the well known greed of the pioneering yankee high and mighty. [edited]
I make no apology for this statement. The yanks have a lot to answer for regardless of our so called Alliance.

If it wasn't for the Americans and the '49ers during the Californian Goldrush, it's entirely possible many of the events that unfolded in the Australian goldrush might never have taken place. Many of the same diggers that dug in California were immigrants and many of those in the Australian goldfields packed up and moved to the Klondike when the last great goldrush started up there. Others went to Papua New Guinea. American pistols were the preferred weapon for self defense on the diggings here. Did you know that Australians were amongst the first to arrive on the American Diggings at San Fransisco? In fact, it was Hargraves who returned from the American diggings who first noticed a similarity between the gold bearing soils he saw in the Americas and those in Bathurst, NSW. If he hadn't been there, the goldrush here might not have taken place for decades more, and our country would not have achieved the greatness it has. Australia as we know it today was literally founded on gold.


I haven't seen in person but it sounds interesting... Americans on the Aussie diggings.

I can assure you that the Aboriginals were a far more legitimate threat to the Australian prospectors during much of the goldrush here compared to the few Americans that came over. The Myalls on Queensland actively hunted and ate what may be close to 10,000 Chinese prospectors (if not more considering the reports at the time made to the newspapers suggested one third of the 30,000 Chinese diggers were eaten en-route to the Palmer River in what is now Queensland.). You won't read about that in the school books though because it would not be considered politically correct.

If you have a beef with American technology, perhaps it might help to remember that it was American designs like the "Banjo" sluicebox, the river-dredge and even the recent Bounty Hunter detectors that opened up our Goldfields to the modern prospector. Heck, it was American manufacturer Fisher that made the world's first metal commercial detectors for finding rich ore. This device was even used at Hill End (NSW) in the late 1800s. The first metal detector was designed and prototyped by Dr Graham Bell... also an American.
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Americans were among the very first to immigrate here during the gold rush. Many of the tried-and-tested techniques from the California diggings were used here to great success. Many of the Chinese here were actually Chinese Americans. Strip Mining (hydraulic sluicing) and American designed equipment was brought here along with American investor who employed Australians to work the mines.

/Not an American.

Beer time snuggs


Ive just spent 2 hrs trying to find a watch online or torrent link and im blowed if i can so far

Damb it! i wanna watch this movie

Might be the very 1st movie i have not been able to find & d/load in history

I'll keep lookin

http://moviefaf.in/1/movie/Gold%20Is%20Where%20You%20Find%20It

let me know if it works....

beepinpete, You might want to take a look at Episode 3 of Steven Spielberg's "Into The West" which has an episode that covers the goldrush in the USA.
The Episode is titled "Dreams and Schemes".
Most realistic depiction of the tools, characters and hardships I've seen so far and a very engaging series.

I think I saw the entire series at J&B for around $29-39 recently.

Good movies, I own them both in VHS format. Gold is where you find it is a poor example of "how it was" but has some speculator scenes of the Mother load country of California. But the "gold" movie I really enjoy is an Aussie made one "The Nugget". Another great example of stereotyping.

I always get a laugh when folks misuse the term Yankee to describe Americans. Its akin to calling all Australians, Brisbrainers. Yankee refers to a small region in the very northeast of the USA that was populated with mostly English immigrants. The same English stock, that first settled Australia.

Hey Beeping Pete, If you cannot get a copy of "Gold is where you find it" let me know and I will get a copy made and send it to you. That film was made in Trinity County, California, not in the Mother Lode counties. The mine they show is the La Grange Hydraulic Mine outside of Weaverville, Ca.
This mine was the largest hydraulic mine in California and it was worked right up till 1942 when the war effort shut it down. Hydraulic mining in the Mother Lode country was shut down in the 1870's because of downstream buildup of debris. The La Grange Mine ran 8,000 to 10,000 cubic
yards every 24 hours through the sluices. My Uncle Tom worked at the mine till they shut it down in 1942.

There is an interesting book called "From the Known To the Unknown", memoirs of Baroness de La Grange. With further investigation and having some of the old mine documents from my uncle you guys would probably be very surprised to hear that this very mine was located/founded by an couple of folks from Australia. The La Grange family bought the mining rights from these fellows and the rest is history. I live here in Trinity County. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

Ray

Thanks for the offer to send me a copy mate, i will keep you up to speed.
Also thanks for the very good info about the movie and area it was shot in etc,
i was actualy on the "weaverville home website"
tonight and it looks like a nice place and that mine sure did put some gravels through..




cheers
pete

Hi Pete,

In case you don't know Ray Mills (TRINITYAU), here is a short introduction;
he is one of the few people that knowledgable US gold detectorists look up to - for many reasons,
not the least of which is that he speaks his mind and knows what he's talking about when he does.
He is also one heck of a gold finder who freely shares what he knows with those of us who want to learn.
In other words, pretty much the exact antithesis of Snuggs2012 characterization of us 'Yankees'...
I am sure you two would get along famously...

Actually Ray the film was shot at Warner Ranch in SoCal, just some scenes were shot on location in Trinity County. My mistake calling it the Mother Load.

Still its a movie that dramatizes the fight between farmers of the central valley and the hydraulic miners.



Ray is an expert prospector and well respected by most detectorists. Lately he has been endorsing Fisher's Gold Bug Pro and his amazing ability to find tiny nuggets deeper than ever before.

Quote From one of Rays posts on AZO,
"I have been going over old areas with the GB Pro and pulling stuff out right behind good operators with 3000, 4000, 4500, 5000 machines. These are those irregular shaped pieces and those on end with very little surface area, and I am getting them up to a foot deep in very hot ground. Sometimes two or three pieces to make a grain or two. Ten or twelve pieces to make a gram."

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Although it was one of the biggest epic movies Warner Brothers produced at the time, Gold Is Where You Find It (1938) is little remembered today, but with a top director, an excellent cast and beautiful color, it is a find worth digging up.

Warner Brothers' second movie to be shot in the new, more lifelike process of three-strip Technicolor, Gold Is Where You Find It tells the true story of the battle between gold miners and farmers in Northern California during the 1870's. George Brent stars as a mining engineer who falls in love with a farmer's daughter (Olivia de Havilland). Claude Rains is her father who disapproves of miners and forbids Brent from courting her.

The romantic story, however, is quite secondary to the true and very realistically presented story of the ravages caused by the gold mining industry of that time. The original gold rush of the late 1840's was long over and the lone prospector with his pan had been replaced by high-pressure water hoses, called "monitors," that ripped the sides off mountains to uncover the ore. Sluices pulled the gold out of the water. The silt and dirt loosened from the mountains ran off into local rivers and streams.

The devastation from all that runoff caused an ecological catastrophe that has left the region damaged to this day. The amount of dirt that flowed downstream over a twenty-year period was the equivalent of several times the amount moved to create the Panama Canal. Farmlands were flooded, rivers were made unnavigable and all the trout and salmon in the streams of the Sierra Mountains were killed. The farmers whose land had been ruined fought back with state and federal lawsuits.

Oddly enough, Gold Is Where You Find It and the story on which it is based were connected to someone whose fortune originated in mines. Newspaper publisher William Randolph Hearst ran the magazine, The Cosmopolitan, which first published the Clements Ripley story and his movie company, Cosmopolitan Productions, co-produced the movie with Warner Brothers through their First National Pictures division. Hearst's wealth came from his father's mining interests; mines that were not the ones depicted in the movie. Nevertheless, Hearst's father, Senator George Hearst, is introduced as a character in the film. "Willie wants to be a journalist," Senator Hearst announces during his brief appearance.

When Gold Is Where You Find It was released, Hearst was a very controversial figure and Senator Hearst's announcement about his son was greeted with boos in some theaters. The movie, with its hero farmers, may have been an attempt by Hearst to alleviate his image after The Farmer Labor Progressive Federation declared him to be "Labor's Enemy No. 1" in 1936. A sly dig at another Hearst enemy comes in one of the character names. Barton MacLane's villain is listed as "Slag Martin" in the credits, but is addressed as "Minton" in the film. Minton was, by coincidence, the name of a Senator who denounced Hearst on the floor of Congress in 1936.

Gold Is Where You Find It was already set to become an expensive film since it was shot with the pricey new Technicolor stock. Costs were driven up further when rains drenched the location shooting in the Weaverville, California area. Nevertheless, the movie ultimately made a profit of $240,000 and director Michael Curtiz's felicity with the Technicolor camera led Warner Brothers to put him in the director's chair in place of William Keighley for their next Technicolor extravaganza, The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938). Although that film remains the more famous of the two, Gold Is Where You Find It is a beautiful and sometimes exciting early color movie that presents a more accurate portrait of historical events.

Director: Michael Curtiz
Screenplay: Warren Duff, Robert Buckner based on the story by Clements Ripley
Cinematography: Sol Polito
Music: Max Steiner
Editing: Clarence Kolster
Art Direction: Ted Smith
Cast: George Brent (Jared Whitney), Olivia de Havilland (Serena Ferris), Claude Rains (Colonel Christopher Ferris), Barton MacLane (Foreman Slag Minton), Tim Holt (Lanceford Ferris), Sidney Toler (Harrison McCooey).
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by Brian Cady

Detectoraid,

Interestingly enough the Warner Ranch here in S. Cal. has a resemblance to parts of
the Mother Lode. Even the geology has similarities with gold being found in a number of locations
both on the ranch and in the surrounding areas.

Now I want to see the movie too, if any one finds a place to either view it or buy it
please post!

Snuggs2012 wrote:no wonder the yanks came to Oz lookin for gold, only the pommy army was shootin at em here, not the well known greed of the pioneering yankee high and mighty. bunch of Pr**ks they are.
I make no apology for this statement. The yanks have a lot to answer for regardless of our so called Alliance.

Nothing wrong with Americans!

This year i spent 5 weeks in the USA, i was treated way better by them than the average Aussie!

This will be of interest to no one but I'll say it anyway. I have American relatives.
Two of my aunts married US submariners during WW2. They were fine men, admirable and honourable and I liked them very much. Unfortunately I can't say the same about their children.
They were arrogant "Yankee" b*****ds who took every opportunity to denigrate Australia and Australians but because they were "family", I wasn't aloud to say anything to them. Different generation I guess.
Yes I know, not all US citizens are like that, there is good and bad in every race and there are certainly a lot of Australians that could or should crawl under the nearest rock and I do not class myself as one of them.
I have my opinion and I'm entitled to hold it just like everyone else is entitled to hold their opinion and I knew my comment would draw adverse reactions.
So criticize me all you like, I can handle it.

cheers
Snuggs

Snuggs, I understand what you mean: I've lived on and off overseas and in the United States (Hawaii, New York, LA & Florida) and I believe that nothing (nothing at all) can match the US equivalent of a Bogan. The typical American cliche is not so far off the mark: Loud, racist, obnoxious and self centered... and (especially) amazingly ignorant of anything outside their comfort zone. That said, some Americans are just like the characters you've grown to love on television in sitcoms. I hold a 'similar' opinion in that I believe most yanks I've met (but certainly not all) to be very self centered and blissfully unaware of how the rest of the world works. My wife is a Canadian and her Father recently came over to visit with his partner and they told me they had to sew Canadian Flags to their jackets because wherever they travelled, people assumed they were Americans and they were given a very hard time by all. They told me that as soon as they wore their Canadian flags, everyone was as nice as pie to them. Which begs the question: Is the whole world Anti-American?

Note also that there's about 10 US based members on this forum.

I do find myself holding a lot of respect for the old-timer style US prospectors who have pretty much pioneered the nature of Gold Prospecting as we know it in the 'romantic/nostalgic' sense of the term.

Cheers Flak for giving me a brief introduction to Ray Mills, i appreciate that mate.

And Ray You just keep right on doing what you do best buddy, and i'm sure there are many prospectors
out there who appreciate the help and advice you've given them in their time of need
I'm sure we would get on like a "house on fire" ......

MDP:
Cheers for posting up that Article on the movie mate

There's Good & bad in all peoples, lets just treat people how we expect to be treated.



Pete

I too have spent a fair amount of time in the US and found good and bad there. They seem to behave alot better in their own country than what they do when overseas. I have many good US friends, as I do of other nations. But.......I think the main concern with the majority of the world is not the actual hatred af Americans but a hatred of the way in which they express their opinions and beliefs. None os are comfortable when they hear their own nation being bagged or teased. Many (not all) US citizens believe their country is the centre of the universe and that they have the best of everything and that every other nation is second rate.
I really dont believe it is the fault of the individual though, it is their system.
American history is taught in every school and very little world history is learned.
The pledge of allegiance is voiced in front of the flag every morning in schools.
The vietnam war.......Well, we wont even go there.

You have only to post a comment on Youtube regarding a subject concerning the US and sit back and read the flack and abuse you will receive from idiots who believe they are the best. Yes, I realise they are mainly US teenagers who think they are tough, but such a bad attitude that will probabley continue with them for life.

The problem also seems to be that the US has solely taken the roll of being the WORLD POLICE. And when they decide that a country (who has oil) is building nuclear weapons (without any proof), they get the rest of the UN countries to help the bomb the crap out it. Now, yes it is true that we do need to keep tabs on unstable countries and try to not let them go out of control, bit what about North Korea, they have been buildng an arsenal of nukes for quite some time but what has got done about that........Nothing. Now they are stating on Iran, Geez, I hope they get ready for a fight from hell with this one cos that is what they are going to get. Unfortunatley, the rest of the globes countries is going to get dragged into it and god only knows the mess that one will be.

Hi Pete

"...There's Good & bad in all peoples, lets just treat people how we expect to be treated..."

G'day Flak

I totally agree, there is good and bad in all peoples and it's a bit hard treating people with respect, when the feeling is not reciprocal. but thats life and ya deal with it.

but as one of our famous Australian Prime Ministers once said "life wasn't meant to be easy", then he lost his pants during a trip to the USA.

cheers
Snuggs

C'mon Guys

Lets not turn this thread into another POLITICAL & Regional earbashing session ay.

So - If anyone else has any info on great movies that involve Gold Mining/Prospecting lets hear of em,

Marco: - I saw a post you put up ages ago saying "im off to watch The Treasure of the Sierra Madre"
well i instantly went and watched it online at Stagevu, and what a great movie it is, (Humphrey Go-Kart)
Played the role really well, especially when the gold fever really hit him and he started goin bonkers




Watch the full Movie here - Free



Pete

nero_design wrote: Which begs the question: Is the whole world Anti-American?

My guess is tall poppy syndrome. The US has its culture, politics & economy analysed & scrutinised more than any other nation today. Every nation has its faults & this becomes glaringly obvious when looked at under a microscope. If Russia or China were the world-superpower, I'd hazard a guess that what we saw would not be all that rosey either. I'd be embarassed if Australia's internal politics were broadcast non-stop around the glode.

In the 7 years I travelled the US I found a strong & unique people. A lot of them (especially in the Midwest) reminded my of the stories I've read of the Australian's who helped make this country great... who are now long since dead. I wish had an effective ACLU here... more importantly, enough people who cared to make it work.

Watched 6 episodes of gold rush Alaska today. You can pick up some good tips in it if u look closely..
Season 2 is out now, I believe up to episode 3..
Some interesting facts in it, especially the guy who found 700 ounces and was murdered that night, and his gold was never recovered....
Good to see lots of the old mines re opening after so many years now its profitable to get it out of the ground..

Hey All, Trinityau here and I thank you for the welcome. I have been frequenting this forum for some time now and I have to say that there are only one or two other forums I have found that the subject line is actually about people detecting or wanting to learn about prospecting for gold. This forum seems to have a great bunch of people who do that. I have been detecting for gold for a few years. I started out with the old Whites 6000DI. Pretty good machine back then when we had half ounce pieces still lying around on the surface. Over the next twenty or so years I tried to stay with the changes. I now hunt with my Ishmael modded 3000 and clean up with the GB Pro. For me this is an ideal setup.

Flak and Detectoraid, thank you for the kind introduction.

Here is some background on myself. I am 58 years old. I live in Northern California, I am retired Army, 22 years Special Forces and Ranger. I currently work with my wife of 38 years in the nursing profession. Prospecting for gold has always been in my blood , comes from my family. Six generations of miners and explorers in California. I also hunt in Nevada, Arizona and Oregon. However, I love to hunt for pockets. When I say pockets I am referring to surface pockets of coarse gold long since weathered away. I say this because many people confuse finding a bedrock crack of placer gold with actual pocket mining. I am in an area where there are alot of surface pockets which throw coarse and fine gold so I am lucky. Thats probably about enough so good luck to all. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

hi all today channel seven two, played a movie called "Cripple Creek"
the opening line was " gold is where you find it"
made in 1952 it is about gold theives and how they fought against them set in the 1890's
The gangs were stealing all the gold shipments and smuggling them out of the country
It was becoming a national security risk as there was a depression and the government was low on gold and had brought in laws to claim most of it
( sounds familiar). anyway good viewing

Any luck finding this one Pete?

Maybe someone with some leverage in the TV industry could get it put on the box over the silly season non ratings period.... maybe Nero?

He could add that to the list, TV Programmer

Cheers, FF.

Just watched Lust for gold ( based on a true story) from the 30's.
Worth a watch if you get bored. It does lack story line, but the special effects will make you laugh...
Off to watch Gold Town from Nat Geo, Its apparently pretty funny ( well the characters are).. And Aussie based for W.A
Will keep u posted on that one...