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Post  deutran on Mon May 11, 2020 7:18 pm

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sport-cultural-and-recreational-activities-restrictions-coronavirus-covid19#can-i-drive-a-bit-further-to-go-exercise-can-i-go-into-regional-victoria-now

Can I go gold prospecting or panning?

Under new arrangements to come into effect at 11.59pm on Tuesday 12 May, you can go gold prospecting or panning. You cannot gather in groups of more than 10 people at any one time. Keep at least 1.5 metres between yourself and other people at all times.

As always though, Victorians are being asked to be considered and use common sense when it comes their activities. You should only leave home if you really need to. We are all being asked to make sacrifices in order to save lives.
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Post  granite2 on Wed May 13, 2020 4:41 pm

I seem to remember a month or so back predicting we would be able to get out and travel by the middle or end of May.
Here in SA we can travel all across the state and go prospecting, fishing, bush walking etc. I also remember getting pooh hooed by some who said it wouldn't happen until toward the end of the year.

We are off on Saturday for the next 5 months in our motor home to a warmer climes and a bit of detecting thrown in.

They don't call me the Oracle for nothing. Very Happy
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Post  Nightjar on Wed May 13, 2020 6:26 pm

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Post  treasureworld on Wed May 13, 2020 8:23 pm

Just received my new 4500 today, spent all of 15 minutes testing it and swung about for an extra 3 minutes over an old test patch....instantly got my
1st bit of gold, only .16gm, for many weeks. Even 3 minutes felt fantastic! I'll be back at it on the weekend woohoo cheers

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Post  moredeep on Wed May 13, 2020 8:36 pm

Q21  Q15
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Post  davsgold on Mon May 18, 2020 9:04 am

This is probably why the Media seems to have gone very quiet about the phone APP lately. It seems it might be faulty.

"Tech experts are urging Australians to not just download but update the coronavirus contact tracing app to avoid a problem where it could be disabled.
Software developer Richard Nelson found a flaw in the COVIDSafe app that would allow someone with a relatively simple Bluetooth device to crash the app running on phones in the vicinity.
That would mean they weren't picking up the "handshakes" with other phones and so the data wouldn't exist for health officials if the user came down with coronavirus"


https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-users-of-covidsafe-app-urged-to-update-to-avoid-blind-spot/2c694c58-939b-4036-8f35-6dfb90efccca?fbclid=IwAR3PYHMw-fXip8Qwc3GEN6_POhLIShujEIl-0XF1gfOukzOTFsB-XnCTdec
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Post  Nightjar on Mon May 18, 2020 10:27 am

Faulty Dave?
Absolutely worthless, for those of us with our ancient phones! Q24
Samsung S5 released in 2014 (yes a staggering 6 years ago T10 ) will not accept the app.
Why don't the media investigate what this "expert" is being paid for this "flop." T22
Instead, of the rapes, murders, etc etc now the Covid is taking a back seat?

Don't you just love Netflix/Stan. T06














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Post  davsgold on Mon May 18, 2020 2:13 pm

Yes peter, netflix is great, no interruptions for "Breaking News" no adds, or other government announcments. Just watch the movie and relax.

WA it seems won't be opening it's state boarder till September, and QLD want to keep there state boarder shut till the end of the year, I don't get it, there will be international travel into and out of Aussie before we can even travel within our own country, something is seriously wrong here, and it has nothing to do with Corona Virus

Total EEffing BS

First the Government seemed to want to send all the small business broke, now there in panic mode on how to get things back up an running again. The big business places like Bunnings never closed for even one day, what the F was there that was essential shopping.

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Post  boobook on Mon May 18, 2020 4:59 pm

Seems as if we are all becoming movie buffs again. I said to Chris, we usually only go to the flicks about every 6 months. (last one was to see Lasseter's Bones!)
Now, thanks to iview, sbs on demand, stan, netflix, we are at the movies everyday.....what about my exercise?
Always the wood heap is the quick reply. Crying or Very sad

Yes Dave, you are spot on re these border closures. You would have a very legit reason to be allowed free passage across to WA with active leases which are, after all, an Australian business enterprise.
We had a plan B about to be activated but I think the glue has melted on it too.
Can't help but think the PM looks just too smug on his media grabs, his big challenge is ahead with the Chinese. Unlike a previous, he doesn't quite look athletic enough for a "shirt fronting"! Embarassed


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Post  granite2 on Mon May 18, 2020 6:03 pm

Disapointed Qld is saying they won't open the border until they have two consecutive incubation periods free of covid. If they keep to that we will never see our family again. Stupid premier needs a wake up.
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Post  Nightjar on Mon May 18, 2020 7:04 pm

boobook wrote:what about my exercise?
Always the wood heap is the quick reply. Crying or Very sad



Michael,
Going to be cool, cold, freezing in Glen Innis soon, you'll need that extra firewood. Keep Chris nearby with the oilstone to keep an edge on the axe. Very Happy

Cheers, damn pity we won't catch up with you and D&V.
This West Aussie welcomes all Australians. Q31 T14 V11 Detecting Camera Camping Van

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Post  Mike54 on Mon May 18, 2020 8:12 pm

Just filled out my Expenditure for last year and I hope they don’t expect me to do one for this year, as we can’t get over there and also the lease runs out next March.    V02    V19    V41   Pretty frustrating!!!!
We were looking foreword to catching up with you all as well Peter.  


Cheers.  

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Post  AnnieL on Mon May 18, 2020 8:51 pm

Mike54 wrote:Just filled out my Expenditure for last year and I hope they don’t expect me to do one for this year, as we can’t get over there and also the lease runs out next March.    V02    V19    V41   Pretty frustrating!!!!
We were looking foreword to catching up with you all as well Peter.  


Cheers.  

Mike.

Gosh, agree that must be terribly frustratingly.   pale  QLD govt. not keen to open the border yet, particularly worried about NSW.
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Post  bicter on Tue May 19, 2020 8:34 am

granite2 wrote:Disapointed Qld is saying they won't open the border until they have two consecutive incubation periods free of covid. If they keep to that we will never see our family again. Stupid premier needs a wake up.

For Qlders the border closure into NSW isn't much of a problem.
The way the rules work is that if you are an "exempt Resident" you can apply online for a reentry permit and off you go, so long as you haven't visited one of the designated Covid hotspots.
So if you are concerned about getting to see your family, they can always come visit you from QLD.

https://www.covid19.qld.gov.au/government-actions/border-closing
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Post  granite2 on Tue May 19, 2020 9:53 am

We cannot get exemption to visit Qld and our family members are scattered from Mossman to Brisbane. Plus they have families and work so they cannot get away. And we live in SA and our borders are closed as well to other states. We will just have to wait. We had thought we could head up to Tibooburra and wait but even the Common is closed there as well as the caravan park. Unfortunately it is just hurry up and wait. But thank you for your advice.
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Post  Nightjar on Tue May 19, 2020 10:00 am

If you stop and think about it, "why do we need borders?" Reading Map
We are all Australians and don't require a line drawn in the sand and a notice saying "Cross here at your peril!" T34
Maybe, it comes down to, "look at me, look at me?"







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Post  granite2 on Tue May 19, 2020 10:35 am

It all began as colonies and morphed into states. Then the state politicians built their own little fifedoms. You are right, WE don't need states or borders but the pillows reckon they do so they can have the money and power that goes with the job. Now, with the ways we have to instantly communicate it might be time to once more look at getting rid of borders and state politicians.
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Post  davsgold on Tue May 19, 2020 10:47 am

Exactly right Jim, and there are cities around the wold that have more people in them than the whole of Australia with less tiers of government than there is here.

There is millions of SQ kms in Australia with not a house or anyone but they still have to be "Governed" Laughing

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Post  bicter on Tue May 19, 2020 4:33 pm

granite2 wrote:We cannot get exemption to visit Qld and our family members are scattered from Mossman to Brisbane. Plus they have families and work so they cannot get away. And we live in SA and our borders are closed as well to other states. We will just have to wait. We had thought we could head up to Tibooburra and wait but even the Common is closed there as well as the caravan park. Unfortunately it is just hurry up and wait. But thank you for your advice.

Jim,
Thanks for the Tibooburra information. If we're fortunate, the recreational travel restriction in NSW will be relaxed soon, preferably before our planned trip in August.
Also hope it wont become a tit for tat between Anna and Gladys.
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Post  PeterInSa on Tue May 19, 2020 6:56 pm

Yes If NSW opens up before Vic for camping we will probably be at Tibooburra as well, but not in the caravan park as to me it will be wall to wall Detector operators in caravans/onsite accommodation, especially with WA still out of bounds as well.

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Post  adrian ss on Tue May 19, 2020 7:36 pm

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Post  philip.j.thompson on Tue May 19, 2020 8:55 pm

Yes absolute bull. QLDer flock into northern NSW n no reciprocality. Looks like Gladys will open up NSW for travel June 1. If so watch the nomads, and we are them , fly, but still pissed at the states with lockdowns

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Post  dundiggin on Wed May 20, 2020 9:54 am

I know this will sound like a wet blanket but what do we value most? Visiting loved ones aand friends or keeping free of covid 19 and a possible visit to the undertaker?? Without restrictions a situation similar to the Spanish Flue of the 1918-1920 is very likely.. The more people gather together the greater the spread of the virus cos as yet no vaccine is available to control or diminish covid 19.. Individually we may have escaped the pandemic but flocking together does not mean we can stay that way. I appreciate that finding gold is a helluva attraction as is giving ageing mum a hug n kiss and those activities have a greater chance of continueing if we be patient, put up with expert science, obey regulations (even when we think they're stupid) and stay out of reach of the grim reaper's sythe.. Death is fairly permanent.. V11 dundiggin

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Post  granite2 on Wed May 20, 2020 10:05 am

Actually we find the search to be more important than the finding of gold. And being out in the desert is self isolation at its best. Gold is the thing of least value to be found in the desert. As for death being FAIRLY permanent???🙄😃☹
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Post  PeterInSa on Wed May 20, 2020 11:07 am

Scary stuff from the Grey Nomad Forum below, don't know how true it is, but if it is, I definitely don't want the virus or a ventilator ( unless its happens), especially the 40% muscle mass loss. Talking to my sister last week when she had a cancer scare, I suggested she put on some weight to help her thru bad times, but she is one that seems to burn the weight off with her activities.



"The paragraphs below were written by a nurse who works with ventilators:

Here you go folks... for those people who don't understand what it means to be on a ventilator but want to take the chance of going back to work....

For starters, it's NOT an oxygen mask put over the mouth while the patient is comfortably lying down and reading magazines. Ventilation for COVID-19 is a painful intubation that goes down your throat and stays there until you live or you die.

It is done under anesthesia for 2 to 3 weeks without moving, often upside down, with a tube inserted from the mouth up to the trachea and allows you to breathe to the rhythm of the lung machine.

The patient can't talk or eat, or do anything naturally - the machine keeps you alive.

The discomfort and pain they feel from this means medical experts have to administer sedatives and painkillers to ensure tube tolerance for as long as the machine is needed. It's like being in an artificial coma.

After 20 days from this treatment, a young patient loses 40% muscle mass, and gets mouth or vocal cords trauma, as well as possible pulmonary or heart complications.

It is for this reason that old or already weak people can't withstand the treatment and die. Many of us are in this boat ... so stay safe unless you want to take the chance of ending up here. This is NOT the flu.

Add a tube into your stomach, either through your nose or skin for liquid food, a sticky bag around your butt to collect the diarrhea, a foley to collect urine, an IV for fluids and meds, an A-line to monitor your BP that is completely dependent upon finely calculated med doses, teams of nurses, CRNA's and MA's to reposition your limbs every two hours and lying on a mat that circulates ice cold fluid to help bring down your 104 degree temp.

Anyone want to try all that out?

Then stay home!

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Post  davsgold on Wed May 20, 2020 12:07 pm

Yea well what about this then. Gladys want people from other states to come to NSW and holiday from June 1st 2020 so I guess that means camping as well as travel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/nsw-coronavirus-travel-restrictions-scrapped/12264926
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Post  granite2 on Wed May 20, 2020 2:44 pm

As from June 1st you will be able to camp and detect in NSW. whoopee, Tibooburra here we come. At least now we will have something to do while we wait for pallachuk to open the Qld borders. We love just being out there in the desert country it is a very special place for us.
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Post  piston broke on Thu May 21, 2020 8:34 pm

Here in Perth, we can't go to the Northern or Eastern goldfields. V58
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Post  dundiggin on Thu May 21, 2020 10:04 pm

From reading a nurse's description of being on a ventilator it must be miles worse than the boogee.. I'm staying home!!!! dundiggin

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Post  adrian ss on Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:30 am

After the last BLM protests the Corona virus has run rampant in Victoria (Melbourne)and yet these brain dead morons are planning another protest this weekend in Sydney
I heard one of these morons say "What is a few lives lost to Corona v if it will stop black deaths in prison".
I wonder if that creature would say the same thing if it was his/her brother or sister of mother or father who had died from the corona virus that he gave to them after contracting it through the protest marches.
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