"Correct harness set up" GPZ My Opinion

Re: Correct harness set up

UTBN Today at 9:38 am
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peterinaust wrote:Thanks I'll give that a try, a bit better balance? I haven't been out in the field yet, not until next month. just turned the machine on last weekend and getting the feel/settings/tuning.

Cheers
Hello Peter. Yes my method if followed will have your zed being perfectly balanced. When you do use it this way make sure you swing just using thumb and fingers. By doing this it will train you to adjust your Bungy cord on the fly and prevent unnecessary lifting of zed.
Wow I'm using really big words now.


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UTBN
Mate I have to completely "Disagree" with you on this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is NO way that one can effectively swing the GPZ7000 with the thumb & forefinger (unless on a concrete slab) come on mate stop being so "Misleading"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone with an average level of intelligence must be at your comments & to have the "Harness set that you contact it with your chin" Well???? that is the last thing anyone would want to do .

This sort of info can have inexperienced punters trying to work out what they are doing wrong.

UBTN how about you put up a video of you doing it this way over some average ground??????    I just don't see it working.

well this "below average intelligence" fella is going to stick to his guns RC,

its works very similar to useing a hipstick setup, i will keep being a renegade if it continues to work ... kev

Kev
Are you saying you use just 2 fingers to control the swing ????????? & what do you rest your chin on the harness???

Certainly need to see a photo or video or 2 to really understand what you blokes are doing
It is not that different to a GPX with a larger coil & I have never heard of anyone using this sort of technique????????????

rc62burke wrote:Re: Correct harness set up

 UTBN Today at 9:38 am
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peterinaust wrote:Thanks I'll give that a try, a bit better balance? I haven't been out in the field yet, not until next month. just turned the machine on last weekend and getting the feel/settings/tuning.

Cheers
Hello Peter. Yes my method if followed will have your zed being perfectly balanced. When you do use it this way make sure you swing just using thumb and fingers. By doing this it will train you to adjust your Bungy cord on the fly and prevent unnecessary lifting of zed.
Wow I'm using really big words now.


The Above is a Quote from the "Closed section"

UTBN
Mate I have to completely "Disagree" with you on this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is NO way that one can effectively swing the GPZ7000 with the thumb & forefinger (unless on a concrete slab) come on mate stop being so "Misleading"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone with an average level of intelligence must be at your comments & to have the "Harness set that you contact it with your chin" Well???? that is the last thing anyone would want to do .

This sort of info can have inexperienced punters trying to work out what they are doing wrong.

UBTN how about you put up a video of you doing it this way over some average ground??????    I just don't see it working.

Hey firstly I'm too busy digging gold to bother with a video ok. Secondly put your money where your mouth is mate. Carn wanna accuse me of being misleading. Let's have a bet. Don't be a coward mate. How much money are prepared to waged that you can swing zed with thumb and fingers regardless of terrain?

[quote="rc62burke"]Kev
Are you saying you use just 2 fingers to control the swing ????????? & what do you rest your chin on the harness???

Certainly need to see a photo or video or 2 to really understand what you blokes are doing
It is not that different to a GPX with a larger coil & I have never heard of anyone using this sort of technique????????????[/quote]

Mate, but don't you have nothing better to do that criticize other people posts? If you think that doesn't work for you, don't use it.

Nah nah nah I want a 5 oz bet on this. I will go to kal I'll ask Goldchaser who's on this forum to film it and if I prove I'm right. You give me 5 ozs of gold. If Its proven I'm misleading I'll hand over 5 immediately to Goldchaser. Don't you back out or be a coward.

Settle down fellers, remember the respect requirement.

UTBN I have seen the results of your efforts and the time put in has brought you great rewards, so I am sure you have got it working just the way you like it, others may not be able to get the same result for a range of reasons, but it was well worth your effort to post what you do and how it has been of benefit to you as this may help others.

But I bet you haven't got it doing all that digging that you have been doing yet .

I haven't used Jason's set up yet but will definitely give it a go next time out.

rc62bourke - please note that I don't doubt Jason's comment that he can detect with thumb and forefinger as I can just about do it with the way mine is set up. His method seems more logical than mine.

By the rc62bourke, I was unaware that you had purchased a GPZ, perhaps you should give it a trial before being critical!
If you don't use a GPZ then your comments really don't count for much.

Keep your finds and tips coming Jason... they are very interesting.

Cheers spinna

I am furious here. Where is this bloke. Mate do I pack my stuff and head to kal? Are you going put your money where your mouth is? I just got a chunk of gold and am waiting here. What's going on?

spinna wrote:I haven't used Jason's set up yet but will definitely give it a go next time out.

rc62bourke - please note that I don't doubt Jason's comment that he can detect with thumb and forefinger as I can just about do it with the way mine is set up. His method seems more logical than mine.

By the rc62bourke, I was unaware that you had purchased a GPZ, perhaps you should give it a trial before being critical!
If you don't use a GPZ then your comments really don't count for much.

Keep your finds and tips coming Jason... they are very interesting.

Cheers   spinna

Thanks spinna I appreciate that. I'm still going well here. I'm over 700 bits now but won't be counting em anymore. Although sizes are mostly small the quantity has made for very good weight in a short time. But I spose people doubt that too. Care to wager?
Anyway I'm off to camp for a cuppa I look forward to this bet. I already had my mexico spending money but will take his 5 ozs for sure

Hey Jase,
Don't worry about stupid comments mate
All I can say your input is very much appreciated bud, by most 7K users
Keep it going mate!

UTBN, the person that was criticizing your post doesn't even own a 7000, some people have to disagree on everything on principle, so don't worry about, like I said I did what you seggested and works very well for me.
Cheers

Thanks goldstrijk and goldquest I'm glad it has helped you too. I just don't like being attacked publicly and accused of of being a liar. Or in his words misleading. I have used my method since acquiring zed and am in no doubt as to its benefits. But anyway this should be interesting, let's see this bet unfold.

UTBN wrote:I am furious here. Where is this bloke. Mate do I pack my stuff and head to kal? Are you going put your money where your mouth is? I just got a chunk of gold and am waiting here. What's going on?

G'day Jase

Mate I just went out and tried the bungy method that you have in the picture, it works very well and I will be using it all day tomorrow like it as well.

Up till now I have just been using the old harness from the 4500 and a hipstick, I have now setup the new harness etc with the "J" strut and the new bungy positioned just like your picture, I am amazed at the balance now I just didn't realize it would make so much difference.

Thanks jase for taking the time to put up pics and keep us informed with the way your doing things, much appreciated mate.

cheers dave

Hey Jase, I don't know you but I will be giving this a try. and find out for my self. I haven't been out yet but have my harness set up and can control the detector with thump and forefinger now!
so if your method improves on that well good. Happy hunting.

Cheers
Peter

Hey firstly I'm too busy digging gold to bother with a video ok. Secondly put your money where your mouth is mate. Carn wanna accuse me of being misleading. Let's have a bet. Don't be a coward mate. How much money are prepared to waged that you can swing zed with thumb and fingers regardless of terrain?
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I am in no way having a go at your prospecting abilities!!!!!

Have a look at the topic!!! it is an opinion & this I am entitled to!!!

I stand by it being "misleading" as there is no way in my "Opinion" that this 2 fingered swing can provide you (anyone) with a smooth stable swing over ALL Terrain!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not a betting man & I am no coward & I have no need to prove nor disprove anything to you!!!!

This was not meant as a personal attack !!!

pablop wrote:Settle down fellers, remember the respect requirement.

UTBN I have seen the results of your efforts and the time put in has brought you great rewards, so I am sure you have got it working just the way you like it, others may not be able to get the same result for a range of reasons, but it was well worth your effort to post what you do and how it has been of benefit to you as this may help others.

But I bet you haven't got it doing all that digging that you have been doing yet .

Pablob
That is the very reason I made this post, too say it will be something for "All Terrain" is misleading!!

Ahh I see the type of man you are. What a joke. I'm finished with this thread.

spinna wrote:I haven't used Jason's set up yet but will definitely give it a go next time out.

rc62bourke - please note that I don't doubt Jason's comment that he can detect with thumb and forefinger as I can just about do it with the way mine is set up. His method seems more logical than mine.

By the rc62bourke, I was unaware that you had purchased a GPZ, perhaps you should give it a trial before being critical!
If you don't use a GPZ then your comments really don't count for much.

Keep your finds and tips coming Jason... they are very interesting.

Cheers   spinna

Hey Spinna
Yeah mate I appreciate that & I would not comment like I have if I had not had first hand experience, I have just returned from 6 days swinging the Zed for about 50 hours

UTBN wrote:I am furious here. Where is this bloke. Mate do I pack my stuff and head to kal? Are you going put your money where your mouth is? I just got a chunk of gold and am waiting here. What's going on?

Take a deep breath & relax dude I am in NQ if you need to go to Kal then go, like I said I don't bet

I apologise that I may have caused you some grief, I am only expressing an opinion I think you need to respect my right to do so & not carry on like you are.

G'day Lee

It's like a lot of good ideas that come along from time to time some suit some people and not others but it's worth a try and that's what some are now doing if it suits then keep doing it and if not modify it to suit, its all about discussion and ideas nothing more and nothing less.

cheers dave

davsgold wrote:G'day Lee

It's like a lot of good ideas that come along from time to time some suit some people and not others but it's worth a try and that's what some are now doing if it suits then keep doing it and if not modify it to suit, its all about discussion and ideas nothing more and nothing less.

cheers dave

Hey Dave
That is very true!!!!
I merely ????? this due to the statement "All Terrain" (with 2 fingers) which is a big "Statement"

Can someone point to where the words "all terrain" were allegedly used in the original thread?
https://golddetecting.forumotion.net/t21593-correct-harness-set-up

Qld Sandy wrote:Can someone point to where the words "all terrain" were allegedly used in the original thread?
https://golddetecting.forumotion.net/t21593-correct-harness-set-up

Peter
That's was a miss quote from me "Sorry About that"
this is the statement which is contained in a post above in this thread,

" How much money are prepared to waged that you can swing zed with thumb and fingers regardless of terrain?

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G'day Jason, 
Lee wasn't having a go at you...... It's just the way the question was asked. Sometimes we get hot headed just by one word or two said not the way we like to read or hear it.

Hello Lee
I have been using a Zed since 2-5 -2015 I still class myself as INexperienced but I use 2 digits to manipulate my monster over any ground in Clermont.
I use my own system to set it up using the Pro harness I am 6' 3" tall and weigh 116kg's. I cannot set my harness as stated in this discussion so are you saying that I am not detecting correctly? I have full control of the machine and find gold every day.I think it is about time you showed some thought before you make rash statements. I would be quite sure in saying you have not seen the member or myself detecting so how can you be as judgemental
about something you were not there to see.People who jump in boots and all will eventually end up in Quicksand.
If you need convincing your welcome to come to Clermont for a demo.
Regards Dave C

Lee
Good to see that you have put in about 50 hrs on a borrowed GPZ.
May I suggest that the next time your try the GPZ, give Jason's method a go (maybe just the knot part will suffice) and report back with you thoughts.
In the mean time, perhaps you could go back and re read your original post.
To my way of thinking the first post came across as demeaning and rude the way it was written and I'm not surprised that Jason took offence.
I understand that this was most unlikely to have been the intent, but perhaps an apology could be in order.
Regardless, I hope that you take the time to report back on your experiences with the GPZ.
Cheers spinna

I've been looping the bungee around the handle since I first started using the prototype, however I don't use a knot because I like to move the velcro hook attachment up and down the shaft depending on the terrain (hilly etc), so I like to loop in the bungee around the handle to be free moving.

Probably the most comfortable arrangement I've tried with the GPZ so far is the supplied dual J strut harness and also a webbing belt with a HipStick attached, Kim Ellis put me onto this method and its really comfortable, it helps stop the Minelab harness creeping up your torso to the bottom of your ribs!!

JP

So is anyone going to put up a photo of the harness fitted, showing the entire set up for hte benefit of others