Correct harness set up

Gday all just a tip on setting up The pro swing harness. Both top ends of j struts must be screwed out up to a point where, when you are rigged up with zed hooked up you should be able to turn your head left and right with your chin brushing the top of harness. The bottom belt should be adjusted fairly tight to prevent harness moving. You then should be able to swing zed using thumb and fore fingers and have no weight issue at all. If you are gripping the handle you are taking on unnecessary weight. Cheers

Part 2 harness set up. Ok there's a final step and this is having your bungee cord being set right.
Bring your Velcro hook up to the top shaft clamp, hook bungee cord on and then loop the cord around the 7000's handle with a basic knot. The knot should be on left side of handle if you are right handed. Do opposite if you are a lefty. I will ask someone to get a pic whacked up here <     >.


So now you should be able to detect all day in no discomfort or say awww it's bloody heavy.

thanks UTBN, i set the pro harness up that way today and i am amazed how much difference the tying the cord around the handle makes, before finishing, by hooking it to that side you are working on.

anybody out there wanting a pleasant surprise, give it a go. it makes a hell of a difference.

thanks a million ... kev

p.s. i reckon minelab should take note

kevlorraine2 wrote:thanks UTBN, i set the pro harness up that way today and i am amazed how much difference the tying the cord around the handle makes, before finishing, by hooking it to that side you are working on.

anybody out there wanting a pleasant surprise, give it a go.  it makes a hell of a difference.  

thanks a million ... kev

p.s. i reckon minelab should take note

No probs at all sir. And can I say it is my pleasure haha see guys I'm not just an smug arrogant b**tard who's taking all the gold hahaha

Can we get a picture?

peterinaust wrote:Can we get a picture?

G'day peterinaust I have just put the pic in jase's post above.

Cheers.

Mike.

Thanks I'll give that a try, a bit better balance? I haven't been out in the field yet, not until next month. just turned the machine on last weekend and getting the feel/settings/tuning.

Cheers

peterinaust wrote:Thanks I'll give that a try, a bit better balance? I haven't been out in the field yet, not until next month. just turned the machine on last weekend and getting the feel/settings/tuning.

Cheers

Hello Peter. Yes my method if followed will have your zed being perfectly balanced. When you do use it this way make sure you swing just using thumb and fingers. By doing this it will train you to adjust your Bungy cord on the fly and prevent unnecessary lifting of zed.
Wow I'm using really big words now.

Hi UTBN, I tried your way and works perfect for me, I am using a hipstick and all the weight just disappears, the metal detector is perfectly balanced.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Cheers

Hey Jase,
I'll definitely be changing to your set up and give it a go, do you find the coil still goes skew-if?
I find I have to put the coil on the ground and twist the handle to the right to straighten it up?
Hope your still cleaning up mate!

Thanks UTBN for the info , I will give this set up a go before I give the pro swing harness away for free . No matter what I tried before with this harness I just couldn't get it to sit the way I wanted it to , especially the waist belt part ( couldn't get it low enough and couldn't stop it riding up when digging ) . I currently use the original minelab harness ( waist belt only ) and a hip stick coupled to my backpack , I do notice the extra weight / strain compared to when I swing the 4500 with this set up ...
Perfect opportunity to trial your method as I am hitting it hard for 4 days starting tomorrow ( day and night ) ...I will let you know how it pans out !!!
Cheers

Thank you guys for the appreciative comments I'm only trying to help. Goldsrijk mate the coil remains perfect balanced when swung. Another tip is also to adjust your handle via top clamp in a position that is comfortable for you. Personally mine is slightly off centred to the right. Only mm

gullyhunter wrote:Thanks UTBN for the info , I will give this set up a go before I give the pro swing harness away for free . No matter what I tried before with this harness I just couldn't get it to sit the way I wanted it to , especially the waist belt part ( couldn't get it low enough and couldn't stop it riding up when digging ) . I currently use the original minelab harness ( waist belt only ) and a hip stick coupled to my backpack , I do notice the extra weight / strain compared to when I swing the 4500 with this set up ...
Perfect opportunity to trial your method as I am hitting it hard for 4 days starting tomorrow ( day and night ) ...I will let you know how it pans out !!!
Cheers

Cheers and look forward to your feedback too. Just use a slip knot when you secure it to handle. Cord should be secured just below quick trak button

gullyhunter wrote: No matter what I tried before with this harness I just couldn't get it to sit the way I wanted it to , especially the waist belt part ( couldn't get it low enough and couldn't stop it riding up when digging ) .
Cheers

Just a quick one in case you hadn't noticed, but the back section also is velcro to allow for height expansion for larger people, effectively allowing the waist strap to be lowered.  I am a little bloke so I found the supplied position ok for me.

Ok yesterday was the past today is now tomorrow the future. Hopefully my suggestion can help a number of people as that's all I intended to do. Please try it if you feel zed has a weight issue as it may well suit you too. I am considering doing a video but that can't be done for at least 2 weeks but if someone else wants to do it feel free to. I hope my suggestion helps. Good luck and tight lines. That what the fishermen say lol

Thanks for the tip UTBN, I have my bungee collar where you have it and it works pretty well as the balance point but going to give your idea a shot. Yep when traversing differing terrain you feel the weight of the Zed and find adjusting the bungee as required is the go
I see by the number of nuggets you are finding you would have mastered the art of pinpointing the Zed ! I am getting better at it.

Cheers and thanks for posting your thoughts, tips and ideas
Ashley

Ash100456 wrote:Thanks for the tip UTBN, I have my bungee collar where you have it and it works pretty well as the balance point but going to give your idea a shot. Yep when traversing differing terrain you feel the weight of the Zed and find adjusting the bungee as required is the go
I see by the number of nuggets you are finding you would have mastered the art of pinpointing the Zed ! I am getting better at it.

Cheers and thanks for posting your thoughts, tips and ideas
Ashley

Thank you Ash. Oh mate pinpointing was a bit of a prick but I got a system that works well for me. Mostly get the nugget by at least the 3rd scoop. Unless I drop the bugger.

G'day Jase,

Tried out your set up today and found it a lot better/well balanced thanks for your great tips.  

Cheers.

Mike.

Gday Jase ,

Well I tried your set up and it worked a treat , the only thing that didn't work for me was the minelab harness - I am very particular about how a harness or waist belt should sit and stay put ... I couldn't get this with the proswing and went back to my pack and minelab waist belt running the hipstick !!!
The thing for me that made a ' massive ' difference with balancing the machine and distributing the weight through the hipstick was your simple method of choking the bungee around the handle - a great example of sometimes 'simple is best' .... thanks heaps for sharing

This is from a USA forum http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/945-silly-question-who-uses-a-bungee/page-2

flackmagnet wrote:Have been following the evolution of this way of using the bungie to balance out the 7000 on one of the OZ forums.

I actually was able to try it out today in the Minelab USA showroom here in Chicago.

As it happened, one of the GPZ's upper case designers was there.

He brought out his 7000, put on his vest, wrapped the bungie

the way it is in your picture and was flat-out amazed.

He couldn't believe the difference in the balance.

I am sure the HipStick will work as well with this way of balancing as well.

I asked him is the upper case was strong enough to handle the additional stresses

of the bungie wrapped like this and he unequivocally said, yes.

UTBN jase you should be very proud of yourself for bringing this idea to everyones attention, well done.

cheers dave

Ditto, well done!

Jason, start lining up for the forthcoming royalties!!
Cheers spinna

Wow how awesome. I'm practically famous now haha. Yeah I too was amazed at the difference. I'll explain in the video as to how I came up with it. It was an accident.
Anyway to the U.S. fellow I'm very glad you have followed my thread and tried the method. So does this mean minelab should give me a gift? You know just something small such as a gpz 7500? Lol

G'day guys the video is done and here. I didn't swear during it and hope it all helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYLhEtoYiuo&feature=youtu.be

thanks for that UTBN and very well explained. I might break out the new harness and set it up and retire the old 5000 harness and hip stick.

thanks again jase, you have done a lot of people a BIG favour. the weight of the zed is now not such a big problem.

also note the WA wind is still constantly blowing and stuffing up the sound, but the setup is clear to understand ... kev

Good one Jase, Many thanks for going to the effort to show us all and good explanation of the why's

Cheers
Ashley.

Ahh awesome guys thank you for trying it and yeah sometimes little things can make a big difference. Cheers

Thanks Jase -- I will try that set up. I see you have ditched the swinging arm. Cheers

Imadogman wrote:Thanks Jase -- I will try that set up.  I see you have ditched the swinging arm.  Cheers

Hey gday mate, good to see you upgraded. Ha yeah I'm a smoker so need a free hand.