Divining Rods

shiraz wrote:

Waveform wrote:Geeze fellas,

If you could reach in and throttle someone giving you the shits then I wouldn't say please at least be polite. It's not fair on a medium to name call or call BS BS if the person doesn't have the opportunity to sort it out face to face, so to speak. You don't have to agree but man I would want to smack someone in the mouth if they made fun of me like that.

I, like you, am entitled to an opinion on the statements made by Ian. If he has been made fun of, it's because he has put himself in the firing line by carrying on with his waffle. If the term BS is offensive to you, don't read it. By the way, it means " Lies"

Yes and if someone called you a lier wouldn't you that piss you off? It would me I can tell you. Why does his opinion offend you so much that you have to call BS on him so much? It ain't right your not doing it to his face IMO.

[quote="Waveform"][quote="shiraz"]

Waveform wrote:Geeze fellas,

Yes and if someone called you a lier wouldn't you that piss you off? It would me I can tell you. Why does his opinion offend you so much that you have to call BS on him so much? It ain't right your not doing it to his face IMO.

So far it has only pissed off you. It hasn't upset Ian because he knows he is full of BS. "Why does his opinion offend me so much?"...... Because his absurd ramblings are an insult to my intelligence.

Shiraz is able to voice his opinion, it is an open forum. Apparently he must have some theory of why mass doesn't hold charge and be able to fly around like superman. Can't wait for your youtube video proving me wrong shiraz, can you start on top of a tall building or at least a cliff? I'm divining it will be a short video with an ending caption of "EVEN SHIRAZ HAS BAD DAYS"

Ian Parker wrote: . Apparently he must have some theory of why mass doesn't hold charge and be able to fly around like superman. "

I rest my case, just some more absurd gobbledygook.   

Hmm My sixth sense is sensing a padlock, I have a gift  

Guys,guys,It's quite obvious to me that I haven't made my message clear enough.I can see respect for one another is falling on deaf ears.One more disrespectful argument and I will lock down this thread.

Cheers Kon. 

Some thoughts on the title of Shiraz's new video that proves anti gravity;

1. Bad vintage
2. Dry season
3. He should have dried out before he jumped.
4. If only he had listened.
5. Shiraz's bad hair day.
6. SPLAT!

It hasn't pissed me off. I just said that it's not fair when it's not done to someone's face. But yes if I had a belief and someone kept on saying I was full of **** or telling porkies I would feel like reaching out and helping them understand a different way of seeing things. If someone did it to someone else I would also say or do something about it. Over the net it is not possible to do this. I don't want to argue with you about it though. Just saying is all. Oops... I didn't see Kons post till just now and I wouldn't have written the last post if I had. So disregard the former of this post and HH.

Sorry all. I didn't see both of managements posts...I will get of this thread...

matelot wrote:Is Barry Johnson from "Nuggetfinder" still offering Big money for anyone who can prove Divining works?
 
I think it was $5000 or $10000 Reward.
 
Maybe Mr.Parker is up to it???????
 
Regards Roger  

P.S. I think Barry Johnson's money is safe.

If I, or someone else could divine successfully for gold (in paying quantities, fine or coarse) who would need a measly 5 or 10K?

If "Rangertells ect" worked as advertised why would someone need to make money from selling the units and not just use them?

Does Diving work? Who knows, might work for some people.   

Hmm, this does seem to be a bit interesting.
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/bradshaws/description8.php

[quote="davsgold"]Hmm, this does seem to be a bit interesting.


There's also one painting in the series that show about four or five people holding hands and the end person divining.

Ian Parker wrote:

davsgold wrote:Hmm, this does seem to be a bit interesting.


There's also one painting in the series that show about four or five people holding hands and the end person divining.

Given that no one from that era is around to supply that sort of information, wouldn't that just be someones interpretation of what they are seeing happening there?, perhaps the picture tells a completeley different tale.  

Wayne. 

That is brilliant !
I really cannot understand why some are getting all worked up here ?

7. Don’t worry mate we’ll catch you – Not
8. Insulting his intelligence wasn’t hard
9. It’s a long way down
10. Is that chewing gum on the footpath - Way down there.
11. Mary Poppins could do it - should have bought an umbrella mate.
12. Maiden Voyage
13. Leap of faith.
14. Contrary to the belief that alcohol makes you smarter.
15. AA mate
16. Pink fairy wings
17. Flight of the pink flamingo.
18. This is gonna hurt
19. OUCH!
20. Chicks day out
21. If he gets a run up he might make it to the road.
22. Place your bets.
23. Message in a bottle.
24. A few too many.
25. Who said that plonk doesn’t affect you.
26. Life is hard and so is the footpath down there
27. Life insurance cover?
28. No parachutes allowed.
29. No loitering on the power lines
30. Dunce cap stuntman
31. Push me shove you.
32. Do you think he'll bounce?
32. I’m not holding your bloody hand

someday wrote:Hmm My sixth sense is sensing a padlock, I have a gift  

I think you are correct. Perhaps you no longer need a detector. I will pm you postage details. I sense that Ian has had another account here previously.

Digginerup wrote:

Ian Parker wrote:

davsgold wrote:Hmm, this does seem to be a bit interesting.


There's also one painting in the series that show about four or five people holding hands and the end person divining.

Given that no one from that era is around to supply that sort of information, wouldn't that just be someones interpretation of what they are seeing happening there?, perhaps the picture tells a completeley different tale.  

Wayne. 

I see;

A river
Centre of river
Centre of the river is marked thicker. (It is where there is the strongest charge)
People
Y shapes
Y shapes near hands
Something from Y towards river (a flow)
The flow looks like rain/water

I think there's too many things here for it not to be divining

Y are You talking like this Y

Waveform, wrong sort of gift man! nice try though  

Appears me gifts busted anyway or maybe it's fathoming out depth!

Digginerup wrote:
Given that no one from that era is around to supply that sort of information, wouldn't that just be someones interpretation of what they are seeing happening there?, perhaps the picture tells a completeley different tale.  

Wayne. 

Yes perhaps it does, but like they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Like a lot of pictures/paintings the interpretation is in what the viewer sees and may be thats all that matters, I reckon its not the only cryptic painting ever done.

Oh and to get back on topic a bit, divining, I am neither a believer nor dis believer as I have seen it work apparently for water, as when the bore was dug there was water there. And I know people that use divining when looking for opals.

I have had a bit of a play around with bent wires, and I wouldn't like to say it worked very well  for me  

cheers dave

33. Not the sharpest tool.
34. Look out for the old lady walking her dog down there.
35. It took him over a month to work out why the corkscrew didn't work on the new screw caps.

Get off the acid dude  

This is a question more for "Ian" I've heard or read somewhere that whatever your chasing via divining you should place in your mouth.
Have you ever tried that? and does it help you get better results, in your opinion?  

1&halfgram4 wrote:This is a question more for "Ian" I've heard or read somewhere that whatever your chasing via divining you should place in your mouth.
Have you ever tried that? and does it help you get better results, in your opinion?  

Really  ,....I guess there are some things you would just never divine for then  

Wayne. 

1&halfgram4 wrote:This is a question more for "Ian" I've heard or read somewhere that whatever your chasing via divining you should place in your mouth.
Have you ever tried that? and does it help you get better results, in your opinion?  

Hi Yes I have heard of it but never tried it. I have heard of water diviners that put a ? I think it was a sixpence in their mouth when they get over a good quantity of water. Apparently they could tell the quality of the water below by the taste. I have never thought of it for gold. Will have to try it with some gold next time I go. I did see a program where scientist had given soldiers, who had lost their eyesight, back some sense of vision by a device that sat on their tongue and fed signals to the tongue about what was around them.

hi ian, so what you are saying that you dig off 20 foot of overburden off to find gold on submerged old inside river bends? please clarify if I have misunderstood what you have written.

blisters wrote:hi ian, so what  you are saying that you dig off 20 foot of overburden off to find gold on submerged old inside river bends? please clarify if I have misunderstood what you have written.

Yep that's it in a jam jar. It's what's called alluvial or placer mining. Depending on the country these ancient rivers that are known as Leads can vary in depth from a few feet to hundreds of feet down. Where I go near Blackwood used to be seabed at one stage. Then due to uplifting in the earths crust the mountains were formed.
The mountains cooled and became hard. With a bit more uplift the hard rock cracks like a biscuit and a fault or fissure is formed. Then up through these cracks quartz, gold, iron and a few other things flow causing a dyke ( out of place rock ). This is called a primary deposit ( a gold reef) The iron is important because over a few million years the iron combines with rain, water and oxygen and rusts away. As the iron rusts the gold and quartz breaks away and flows down into rivers, with the gold being at the bottom of the river. These are called secondary deposits and are made up of alluvial stone.
Sometimes there may be a heap of other things happen and that river bed may end up high and dry on the side of a mountain. This is what's known as a placer deposit.
So I find an old river bed then divine a spot I like, then dig a shaft down until I hit the old seabed (sandstone) if the sandstone hasn't been worn away the gold will be on top of that and I can then dig out a horizontal drive shaft along this sandstone. A lot of nuggets have been found around the old diggings because the old timers weren't too sure how far off the sandstone they were and discarded the dirt to the side. So you don't have to take all the overburden off, the shaft going down is only about 2ft x 4-5 ft and if you ever see an old shaft you can tell that English and Europeans dug square ones while the Chinese dug oval ones.

Once I have dug the dirt out I put it through a trommel to extract the gold. I estimate to roughly get about an ounce for every 300 buckets I pull out and process. At the moment I am looking at speeding up the process by processing the dirt underground and work my way through the dirt and discard the waste behind me.

Ian Parker wrote:

1&halfgram4 wrote:This is a question more for "Ian" I've heard or read somewhere that whatever your chasing via divining you should place in your mouth.
Have you ever tried that? and does it help you get better results, in your opinion?  

Hi Yes I have heard of it but never tried it. I have heard of water diviners that put a ? I think it was a sixpence in their mouth when they get over a good quantity of water. Apparently they could tell the quality of the water below by the taste. I have never thought of it for gold. Will have to try it with some gold next time I go. I did see a program where scientist had given soldiers, who had lost their eyesight, back some sense of vision by a device that sat on their tongue and fed signals to the tongue about what was around them.

    Another explanation could be that some diviners are really good at reading indicators, so even though they put results down to divining, they really could be either sub or knowingly looking for indicators which may then enable them to find what they where chasing, just another   that should be mentioned in this ancient way of prospecting.  

I managed to change my avatar pic again to show one of the shafts I'm working This is down to about 14 ft. At around 12 ft I hit sandstone and you can see at the top of the black bucket where I'm starting to put in a drive shaft. Most of the gold is small and I mean pin head small but my biggest nugget was about 7-8grms from this shaft.

1&halfgram4 wrote:

Ian Parker wrote:

1&halfgram4 wrote:This is a question more for "Ian" I've heard or read somewhere that whatever your chasing via divining you should place in your mouth.
Have you ever tried that? and does it help you get better results, in your opinion?  

Hi Yes I have heard of it but never tried it. I have heard of water diviners that put a ? I think it was a sixpence in their mouth when they get over a good quantity of water. Apparently they could tell the quality of the water below by the taste. I have never thought of it for gold. Will have to try it with some gold next time I go. I did see a program where scientist had given soldiers, who had lost their eyesight, back some sense of vision by a device that sat on their tongue and fed signals to the tongue about what was around them.

    Another explanation could be that some diviners are really good at reading indicators, so even though they put results down to  divining, they really could be either sub or knowingly looking for indicators which may then enable them to find what they where chasing, just another   that should be mentioned in this ancient way of prospecting.    

One thing I have noticed in the Blackwood area is a particular tree. I don't know it's name and don't have a pic sorry. But this tree only grows on gold bearing soil. Sometimes I've seen this tree in a few odd places and conclude that there must be gold there.

Interesting topic ! here's my two bobs worth/experience with divining rods.
My friend had purchased these divining rods off ebay and said have a go, They were interested to see if i could get the same results as they were getting on their back yard lawn. Yep i got the same two hot spots on the back lawn, that we put down to " Must be water ".
Next we placed a gold ring at random spots ( except on the hot spots ) around the lawn and with holding a gold ring in one hand with the diving rods wandered around and always had a major reaction with the divining rods when you went over the ring on the lawn. Tried it with a 5oz nugget at numerous spots ( except the 2 hot spots ) and had the same result every time.
Also saw a guy at an Adelaide detector show doing divining and had a positive reaction over gold, I got to have a go & it worked for me everytime.
Tried it with a couple of pieces of fencing wire when i got home and had no reaction at all. Go figure !
Had a yak with a guy in Leonora that has leases & he said that's how he goes detecting for gold, Uses a backhoe to dig the targets, He was also telling me that you can work out the depth of the target before digging by the reaction time the divining rods take to uncross when over a target. ( All this is here say as i didnt see it in operation but it gets you thinking )
My contribution to an interesting topic !
Cheers
Ashley