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What size coil for cleaning up a patch

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Post  Goldbait Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:20 pm

Ok. i'm after a small coil for the small stuff.

The 3 i have narrowed the stuff down to is.

10" eliptical mono

6" round

8" round

I'm detecing in somewhat noisey ground to extremely nosey ground.

which will give me the best depth and sensativity.

Detector is a GP extreme.
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Post  kon61 Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:07 pm



G'day Goldbait.

Goldbait,I can't recommend any of the mono coils you've narrowed it down to.I mean your talking small monos on a GP Extreme on noisy or extremely noisy ground.As a matter of fact the smaller mono you go the more sensitive the coil will be on tiny gold,but it will also increase the sensitivity to ground noise and hot rocks as well. If it where on a GPX series machine,different ball game. You'll find that by going to a 10x5 Commander or Coiltek DD,should more than suffice,on the tiny stuff.

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Post  Goldbait Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:04 pm

on that note kon. My 11" DD is a lot more noisy than my 18" DD on extremely noisy ground.

On the same ground my 14x9 mono runs sweet.
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Post  kon61 Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:30 pm



Goldbait,If thats the case,i too will recommend the 8 inch Commander mono, although,I'm a stunned mullet, as to how a mono coil can run smoother and quieter over hot ground than that of a DD of similar size.

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Post  Goldbait Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:34 pm

dunno. ay, your asking the wrong guy... all settings remained the same except i changed from DD to Enhance on the detector.

thanks for your info though. i might go with the 8" mono...

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Post  Frog Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:35 am

Hi Goldbait i just got a 8" commander mono i like it and it is a popular coil very sensitive, .1 gram bit my smallest.Frog Very Happy

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Post  Guest Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:31 am

Hi Goldbait

I have just purchased a 8 inch Commander mono round coil also,after seeing the great results of others in the field,and also helpful forum members glowing reports.I have found 0.1 and 0.2 gram nuggets on its first and second time use.There are other fine small coils out there,but this coil lives up to its well deserved reputation.It makes you feel that you will not walk away from any worthwhile gold targets.

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Post  Guest Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:44 pm

good to see the 8" doing well for you Eureka Dreams. i have found most off my gold with my 8" the smallest bit .07 gram yesterday. it might be small but it counts to the collection off the findings at the end off the day.
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Post  Guest Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:55 pm

Thanks Stoppsy,i`ve started to find gold more regularly now after going through a lean patch Smile but now with trading up to a 4500 and learning to also drive it better,and having gone through a selection of coils until i`ve found what works for me.I am a member of two forums and with the knowledge that i have picked up online from members,and with them in the field is so generous and priceless..

Having the best gear that you can afford,and constantly learning from others and more importantly testing that knowledge in the gold fields,and seeking to improve on your technique brings results.....

OK back to that little 8 inch Commander you will not go wrong having it cover your small gold findings,and i`ve heard it loves a bigger bit too Smile

PS..BTW i went to Creswick yesterday with Fire1aus,and i scored a nice flat 2.3 gram nugget Very Happy found with my 18x12 GS which is proving to be a great coil for me also IMO.

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Love that Gold cheers

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Post  kiwijw Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:10 pm

Hi guys, The smallest I have found with my GP 3000 was using the 10" X 5" coiltek joey mono is .05. That is the smallest bit of gold I have found. I have used the coiltek 6" mono & the minelab 8"commander mono as well but that .05 piece is the smallest with the joey mono. I am lucky that our ground over here in NZ is pretty quiet & I dont need to use a DD. Searching in sensitive & deep mode. I love that 10" X 5" mono. Mind you ....I am also very fond of the nuggetfinder 12" X 7" mono as well. Maybe not as smaller gold as .05 but very good all rounder coil.

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Post  Goldbait Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:41 pm

oh the delemma.

other forums are saying 10x5, people here are saying 8" round.

what to do, what to do. wish i could afford both.
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Post  Guest Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:20 pm

i have the 8" coil and have used the 10x5 coil, the 10x5 coil will get you in tight spots where the 8" coil will not.
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Post  Goldbait Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:30 pm

Uncle Bob. how do they compare on mineralised ground. do they both go about the same depth.

which would u go out of the 2.
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Post  kiwijw Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:21 pm

Go for the 10" X 5". You wont be dissapointed. I havnt used the 8" or 6" for ages. As has been said you will get into much tighter spots with the 10" X 5".

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Post  Goldbait Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:36 pm

at the moment i'm thinking about getting the 8" round mono, then later on i'll go for the 10x5 DD
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Post  Guest Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:00 pm

OK Goldbait, go for it. You should do well.
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Post  Guest Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:12 am

GB

if ya was in WA i could lend ya a 10x5 mono mate, i got 3 of them little suckers, they are so sharp on the
small bits, i always take all 3 bush so mates can lend one and they are not cheesed of at me gettin gold
while they draw a blank.

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Post  Goldbait Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:19 am

how mineralised is your soil over there pete. or do they work just about anywhere.

Would they behave similarly to the 8" round mono.
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Post  Guest Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:39 am

GB

Very similar surface areas so they see the same amount of ground/mineralisation,
if i can line up a lend would ya be interested.
you pay the post etc and it could be done, i think i got a mate near you he wouldnt mind
doin it, he's a lover of that coil too and think he got 3 also like me.

Either way at roughly $200 bucks for either 8" or 10"x5" coil ya cant lose.
you will "SNIFF" up the gold so quick to pay for it + more, real quick.
Dont let $$$$ stand between you and gold, that is called a false economy
and some other bloke will beat ya to it before you know it.

Pete in WA Cool

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Post  kiwijw Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:55 am

Good on you Pete, well said. I just love my little joey & know that if I had to chose knowing what I know having used all the small coils it would be my pick of the bunch. But then I am talking mono's not DD's. I have pulled gold off areas that have been trashed by all the minelab PI detectors including the 4000 & 4500 with my 3000 & this great little coil. Mostly old sluiced areas that have been washed down to bed rock. This coil just sniffs out the small gold & of course if there is a bigger bit it will get that too but those piecea have been cleaned up. I cant speak highly enough of the 10" X 5" coil. Mine is the coiltek If I bought another I would go for the minelab commander version which is wound with litz wire same as the nugget finder coils & I believe they hold the edge in performence over the others.
A no brainer I think.

Good luck which ever way you go.

Happy hunting

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Post  Guest Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:50 am


Gday

I have used the same minelab 8" mono for quite a few years now, originally it came with my first sd2100, its the supergoldsearch one not the commander one, and was an excellent coil on the gp extreme, paying for itself many many times over, I even still use it on the 4500 and its not only very sensitive but it has amazing depth for its size.

I have also used the coiltek 10" eliptical mono and found it ok but always went back to the 8" mono, its what you are used to I guess and your favorite coil is of course the one you have found the most gold with, with it being all completely relevant to the amount of time you use that particular coil.

To my way of thinking if I was going to use a 10" eliptical coil I would just use the commander 11" round mono, better coverage and more depth, but any time I need something to really sniff out a spot that may be rocky or covered with spinifex or whatever the 8" mono is on.

Most of these small type coils will do the job for you so I wouldnt be too concerned about it and splitting hairs over the decision of which one to get, once you have your new coil on the ground and you start to get gold with it you will simply build up confidence in it, the more you use it and the more gold you get with it the more of a favorite it will become.

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Post  kiwijw Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:32 pm

Yer, Horses for coursers, I love the minelab commander 11" mono too for open shallow ground but the 10 x 5 gets into tight spots & between tussocks & rocks & under & around bushs & is great for turning on edge & draging backwards through crevices. I have snaged many a piece doing that. I reckon get both. They will both pay for themsevles.

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Post  Guest Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:32 am

For small coils, Nugget Finder are about to make your choice even harder with thier soon to be released 8" x 6" solid Very Happy

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Post  kiwijw Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:52 am

That will be a good coil too.

Happy hunting

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Post  Narrawa Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:20 pm

Its a good thing, there will be those who just have to have one, and while ever they are using them the bigger gold is safe. Very Happy
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Post  kon61 Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:25 pm


14x9,12x7,and now 8x6? By golly gents,I can understand maneuverability through tight spots,but we're also one step closer to surpassing that of the term called "Fly sh*t".....

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Post  goldslinger Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:52 pm

hi i dont want to put the cat amongst the pigons but........... i use a minlab 14" eliptical mono when im in WA and the smalest that ive found with it is a 0.07g nug on a gpx 4000 just how small doyou want to go??
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Post  Guest Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:55 pm

hey goldslinger,
never heard of a Minelab 14" elliptical before, is that some special from the UK?
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Post  goldslinger Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:58 pm

sorry its a cioltec one
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Post  Guest Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:59 pm

Yeah no worries champ.

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