What Is Happening Around The World

Interesting Site:
Have been watching this for years. Has a lot of info.
http://aviation.globalincidentmap.com/

Yeah a man starts to loose faith in humanity when he sees what is really going on around the place instead of what is reported in the news.
Oh well it is not all bad ....Yet!
Just wait till ya try to drive to the middle of WA for a gold tecting trip when all you have is an EV.

A typical electric car (60kWh battery) takes just under 8 hours to charge from empty-to-full with a 7kW charging point. Most drivers top up charge rather than waiting for their battery to recharge from empty-to-full. For many electric cars, you can add up to 100 miles of range in ~35 minutes with a 50kW rapid charge..Wow! a hundred Miles; geeze that will really open the country up. Plus lots of rapid charging will shorten the life of the battery considerably.

EVs are going to add days to a trip from Canberra to Perth plus an extra 5 or 6 overnight stops. Joyous days are upon us. ... It will not matter if WA is in continuous Lock down coz nobody will be going there from the east....or from anywhere else.

I wonder how far a Dream Liner can go on electric motors?. The Ghan and the Overlander will be in mothballs and the Greens will rule what is left of the planet....Better legalize weed coz we are all going to need it.  

Was having a cuppa at Brew bar this morn when a pretty EV 4x4 (A biggun) with ACT plates drove into the car-park where there happened to be an EV charging station. bloke gets out and plugs her in and comes in for a coffee. Nice wagon I sez, Yeah pretty good around town but wouldn't like to take her off road. Why not? Battery doesn't last long when the going gets rough. That's too bad mate, Yeah , but it has a nice dash panel, all electronic and stuff.....I better get going mate, No worries mate.
Drove past the Brew bar a couple of hours later and the 4x4 was still charging.

Canberra is not far from the snow fields and the yuppies here like to ski. I can just see them and their spiffy  EVs parked at Thredbo all covered in snow and all with  non functional  batteries.
EV batteries don't like cold below 4 deg C and Thredbo gets a bit colder than that  n so does Canberra. Also, These batteries are pretty useless above 46 deg C .... So better stay away from the Nullarbor or Northen territory or WA or anywhere in Australia during summer...  

Can imagine being stuck out in the desert with a stuffed EV battery..phone up for a new battery to be brought out. How much is that mate? Oh I can do one for ya at around 10,000 AUD.    Plus the cost of sending a team out ta bung it in yer wagon, so make it an even twenty grand.

Say What!!.
How about if ya swap the old one fer a new one?...Waddaya mean mate...Well I give yez me old stuffed one and you give me a new fully charged and installed battery fer the cost of a tank of old style petrol?       Yeah right, yer off yer rocker mate                

NRMA is going to be busy when EVs take over Australia.

I hear Scomo is interested in Hydrogen powered cars.
It costs tens of billions of dollars to set up a hydrogen fueling network that has industrial strength compression equipment" to fuel these EVs,  plus the production of hydrogen creates more green house gasses than petrol if non renewable energy is used in the production process.

The only way we will make enough electricity to be able to charge millions of EVs in Australia on an hourly  basis without crashing the Grid at peak hour is to build Nuclear power generators. More hydro electric power Cheap and clean power... Renewable power will not be able to supply all of our needs.

Some Good Guts On Petrol, EV & Hydrogen powered Cars:

https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-advice/hydrogen-cars-versus-evs-whats-right-for-australia

Good luck deciding what is best for Australia.
A kilogram of hydrogen costs approx 22.00 AUD at the tank
A kilogram of petrol cost  approx 1.90 dollars Aust at the tank.

The energy in 1 kilogram of hydrogen gas is about the same as the energy in   2.8 kilograms of super petrol' but the cost of producing the hydrogen and distributing it across the country and getting into cars is way way beyond extreme.

Good luck with that.

I guess if I was forced to choose between Battery or hydrogen power to run my car I would go for the hydrogen for long trips and battery for around town driving. Neither of these methods are squeaky clean for the environment.
In Australia our air pollution is very clean, so going to theses alternate fuels will make zero difference to our local atmosphere while at the same time causing much economical grief and hardship for all Aussies....Unless they opt for a lower standard of living. We have very little industry here (so our air is clean)and have become dependent on imports

All of the worlds pollution is generated in Africa, Europe and Asia.

This from the Net:
So why haven’t hydrogen fuel cell vehicles (FCVs) taken off in the same way as BEVs, considering their convenience? June 2019 could be the month that scrawled the writing on the wall. No sooner had a chemical plant producing hyrdogen in Santa Clara exploded, leaving FCV users in California short of fuel, but just a few days later a refuelling station in Sandvika, Norway also went up in flames. This really brought home the truth that hydrogen can be a dangerously explosive gas – as if we didn’t know it already. I haven’t heard of any cases of the cars themselves detonating, and the fuel tanks are now Kevlar-lined to protect against this explosive possibility. But it was hardly a confidence-inspiring series of events.

safety concerns are not the main reason why hydrogen is a far inferior option for personal transportation than BEVs. If one of your main goals is to save the planet, BEVs are considerably more energy efficient than FCVs, when you take into account the whole series of steps between power generation and propulsion. With a BEV, once the electricity is generated – hopefully from a renewable source – the supply of this to your vehicle charging location loses about 5%. The charging and discharging of the battery then lose another 10%. Finally, the motor wastes another 5% driving the vehicle. That makes for a total loss of 20%.

With a hydrogen fuel cell, however, you first have to convert the electricity to hydrogen via electrolysis, which is only 75% efficient. Then the gas has to be compressed, chilled and transported, which loses another 10%. The fuel cell process of converting hydrogen back to electricity is only 60% efficient, after which you have the same 5% loss from driving the vehicle motor as for a BEV. The grand total is a 62% loss – more than three times as much. Or, to put it another way, for every kW of electricity supply, you get 800W for a BEV, but only 380W for an FCV – less than half as much. That’s a huge inefficiency if you’re hoping for a greener future, and doesn’t even take into account the fact that 95% of hydrogen is currently generated from fossil fuel sources.

But for personal car users, it’s no contest. Hydrogen evangelists are still arguing that FCVs are the future of personal transport and the technology will take off in 2020. It’s likely that FCV energy supply-chain efficiency will be improved over time and more renewable energy sources used in hydrogen production. However, considering the number of BEVs already on the road, FCVs have lost this battle already and will never catch up. A BEV is a viable form of personal transportation right now in most developed Western nations. There are lots of options with over 200 miles of range, and Tesla +4.3%TSLA has even hit 400 miles. There are charging points springing up all the time, with more than twice as many EV charging points in the UK as petrol stations. The battle for the future of green personal transportation is over, and battery electric vehicles have already won.

Except in Australia where nobody wants them and the greens and protester won't want them coz at the moment they turn up at protest and green energy rallies in big petrol drinking 4 x 4 which they can make a quick getaway in but if they had ev 4 x 4s they would be stuck waiting for their batteries to recharge making it possible for the police to nab them easily.
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I think walking or catching a bus is starting to look good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl5UJQzP7NE

planetcare wrote:

adrian ss wrote:
The only way we will make enough electricity to be able to charge millions of EVs in Australia on an hourly  basis is to build Nuclear power generators. Cheap and clean power... Renewable power will not be able to supply all of our needs.

Nuclear power is neither cheap or clean! Houses and buildings with solar panels and batteries could provide the renewable power to charge EV's! XS electricity from renewable can also be stored as H2  and then converted  catalytically  to NH3 which  can be easily  liquefied and transported and then  when required converted to H2  catalytically. This process has been discovered  by the CSIRO.

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx

There is nothing that can save the planet from global warming, it is cyclical and it is going to be with us for the next 7000 years when the current warming cycle ends. The ice caps will melt, the glaciers will continue to melt, wind rain and storms will develop different patterns than today.
We can go all electric or Nuclear or use hydrogen, wind farms, solar, batteries or charge our cars with fart gas. None of that will alter anything.
There is only one bloke who can fix global warming and he hasn't been heard or seen for the past 4000 years....or if the truth be known, he has never been seen.

It is not a 7000 year cycle, it is a 25,000 year cycle and there is roughly 7000 years remaining in the current warming cycle.

Comp won't let me open that file......Must be dodgy??