The climate has always changed. What do you conclude?

The climate has always changed. What do you conclude?
“Whoever tells you that the fact that “the climate has always changed” is somehow reassuring, does not know what he is talking about – or he is trying to con you.”
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2017/07/the-climate-has-always-changed-what-do-you-conclude/comment-page-4/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI1j4077d4c

Due to my old age and health , climate change no longer concerns me . I will leave it to younger people to worry about .

Minermike wrote:Due to my old  age and health  ,  climate change    no longer   concerns  me .  I will  leave it to younger people to worry about .  

I worry about the younger ones too Mike.
For the childrens sake i would like to know (with respect) what school planetcare went to???

It worry's me all these couples have more and more children . How are they going to cope in 20 - 30 years time ? Do they think about that ?

Minermike, life might be a long winding road of struggle, but the wonders put on this earth to behold, are every bit worth living as well as fighting for. Man can't see whats going to happen from one day to the next, not alone in 20 or 30 years time. When it comes to survival of the human race, where there's a will, man will find a way.

Kon.

butch wrote:

Minermike wrote:Due to my old  age and health  ,  climate change    no longer   concerns  me .  I will  leave it to younger people to worry about .  

I worry about the younger ones too Mike.
For the childrens sake i would like to know (with respect) what school planetcare went to???

Why butch?

Kon61gold wrote:Minermike, life might be a long winding road of struggle, but the wonders put on this earth to behold, are every bit worth living as well as fighting for.  Man can't see whats going to happen from one day to the next, not alone in 20 or 30 years time.  When it comes to survival of the human race, where there's a will, man will find a way.

Kon.

I have my doubts Kon .

All of the magnificent creatures of this Earth found a way to survive through adaptation and evolution and became the perfection that they are today; then we came along and because we for whatever reason, could not adapt physically to the climates of this planet and so we adapted mentally and then set about destroying everything that was a threat to us that came before us in order for us so that in our puny format could survive......If we keep going in our present direction, that survival will not be for much longer..... It is very close to midnight on the Doomsday Clock.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/24/toxic-america-sperm-counts-plastics-research

we're on a road to no where,
As I've always said ,we are just rabbits in a paddock


cheers moredeep

planetcare wrote:

butch wrote:

Minermike wrote:Due to my old  age and health  ,  climate change    no longer   concerns  me .  I will  leave it to younger people to worry about .  

I worry about the younger ones too Mike.
For the childrens sake i would like to know (with respect) what school planetcare went to???

Why butch?

Parents should know what's being taught at their school.
It's too late for you PC look at yourself.
The children are terrified, it's all going to end in 10 yrs time, Greta stated it succinctly, "You've stolen my childhood".

End the dribble.

I had little   or no help from my parents   with school work  .   It was beyond    them .


I had to give up with my engineering studies as it was beyond me . Too much information to take in , in a short space of time .

I still have some of mum and dads work books for Maths and English & Literature. At year eight, which was as far as they could go in country schools at that time  their standard/levels were higher than where I was at year eight. Their reading ability and writing skills were superior.
    The reason my parents could not help me much with my maths and algebra was simply because they had forgotten it
At year eight (Tech College) I was studying 14 examinable subjects and all of the final exams had to be completed over a two week period. Prior to those exams we had the usual term exams. At year 10 (High School) I had only 6 examinable subjects (I thought I was in heaven that year).

Today the kids struggle with just a few electives and a couple of compulsory subjects. and have nervous breakdowns at exam time.....Fair dinkum they have no idea what pressure is.  

That's because they rely more & more on computers to work out problem solving issues for them Adrian. Relying solely on the world of computers/A.I machines to solve all mans problems, is like being addicted to heroin, but once hooked, how does one then gain old school knowledge, if the world of computers (for whatever the reason/s) come to a sudden stop?  
The saying "If you don't use it, you lose it" is becoming scarier with each passing year.
Adrian, I think our own cerebellum computers are beginning to stray off the main topic discussion here.   Looks like we might need reprograming & rebooting.  

Kon.

OH Awriite Awrite, I can take a hint. ....Will not be long before we can get a USB port in our brain.

hmm seems my posts disappeared

i may have this a bit wrong but ?
When the last tree is gone and the last river is poisoned and the fish is dead
Then you will know you can't eat your money
Mond

I reckon we will be all gone before that ever happens.

I have always compared with typical foilhatfacts: The volcanoes! And there is dramatic effects in short time comparison. The year without summer (1813?) a lot of starvation as a result. Recently a scientist showed a graf. Volcanoes give out an estimated 1billion ton of CO2 every year. Doesn't fluctuate more than 50% any year. Humans are responsible for 55 billion tons!! All groving from the birth of the industrial revolution early 1800...
But i won't stop flying and driving is my profession! Technique is evolving. Thats the answer for the future. Not blocking trade with taxes and letting the Asians do the work unquestioned..

Some interesting info here.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/CarbonCycle

Climate has changed for billions of years ... it continues to change and will keep changing .. not one thing you can do about it ..
ps
lovely weather we are having ...lol

gef50 wrote:Climate has changed for billions of years ... it continues to change and will keep changing .. not one thing you can do about it ..
ps

The climate changes in response to what ever is the dominant forcing. The dominant forcing now is mans activities which are changing the climate much faster that at any time for a least 800,000 years. ie faster than any natural variation!

Well Man Kind is just another Bug on the planet. Life comes and goes. Looks like it is game over for us Aye.
Something smaller will take our place.

butch wrote:

“Whoever tells you that the fact that “the climate has always changed” is somehow reassuring, does not know what he is talking about – or he is trying to con you.”
Well you may laugh Butch but the  reality is that the climate is warming rapidly, far faster than  can be explained by any natural variation.

See what happens when you practice in breeding.            

Looks like one of Big Gs first attempts at making a human but could not figure out how to set them up to evolve and that is why they are still the same today....Just like us so instead of knocking the failures off he let them go to see how they would get along with nature.
Then he had a few more cracks at making us and finally settled on what we are today....A bunch of  dip sticks  incapable of evolving.
Mentally we have about the same IQs of Cro magnon man. If you could bring one of those blokes forward in time, get the hair off him and dress him in Jeans and a t shirt you would have difficulty picking him out of a crowd of us...except he might be a bit tougher looking and would be physically very strong for his size. would have strong visualizing capability and  have strong instinctive  and or precognitive ability....and wouldn't give a stuff about climate change.

Fellas, could we please try to keep things in perspective here. The world is undergoing more than one change at the moment as we speak. We're copping it through COVID-19, we're copping it through severe whether changes around the world, with the possibility of a third world war on the horizon Trying times to say the least gents.
Butch, if man don't get their act together, there's a good chance the Chimp, might be having the last laugh.

Kon

All of the talk today is about India and the Covid 19.
    What happened to cause the current surge in cases?
Even with this surge the deaths are only 0.003 % of total cases and recovery is approx 90%. That is better than what it was in America for a while.
     It seems that they dropped the ball in India and slacked off on precauctions.
If these people could stop having uncontrolled sex every night (70,000 babies borne every day) they would eventually bring their population down to manageable levels, their standard of living would improve out of sight and they would all be a lot happier.... This applies to all third world countries.
Women/wives in India have very little say when it comes to sex. The men just take it when they want it and the result is rampant in home rape and overpopulation.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_en-GBAU708AU708&q=how+many+covid+19+cases+in+India+today&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi02p_8xa7wAhXDxzgGHf1YBKkQBSgAegQIARAx&biw=1309&bih=695


For Australia:

We make 300 babies per day...... Clearly we watch more tv than they do in India.  


On 4 May 2021 at 08:44:11 AM (Canberra time), the resident population of Australia is projected to be:

25,771,804

This projection is based on the estimated resident population at 30 September 2020 and assumes growth since then of:
one birth every 1 minute and 43 seconds,
one death every 3 minutes and 13 seconds,
one person arriving to live in Australia every 3 minutes and 22 seconds,
one Australian resident leaving Australia to live overseas every 2 minutes and 48 seconds, leading to
an overall total population increase of one person every 4 minutes and 47 seconds.

These assumptions are consistent with figures released in National, state and territory population.

Sadly I did predict that India would go "super nova" with their cases.
It would be terrifying to be in such a situation, many countries curbed the curve but when you have such a massive population it's bound to spiral out of control .
Once again it's the poor that suffer and one of their only pleasures in life Adrian is that "special" cuddle with the missus.
Not banning religious festivals or enforcing lockdowns etc is a recipe for catastrophe


cheers moredeep

I was in Singapore back in 2020 Feb. when they cancelled our Cruise and had to return to Ozzie. While waiting for a flight back went on a city tour. Most of the people on the tour were Indian an the way they crowd next to one and other, I said to the wife if this virus get loose in India they will not have any hope of containing it. However remember that India populations is nearly 1,400 million and USA is about 330 million. India has 4 times that of USA so they are not as bad as the media portrayed.

Heard a rumour that the Greens want to cap all of the worlds volcano's to help achieve zero emissions. Just kidding.... Well it sounds like something they would be DH enough to want to do..

I know how capping volcanoes turn out adrian, I at times try to keep my emissions in , especially in the company of proper people but
alas end up embarrassing my better half  
So,where ever you may be let your emission go free


cheers   moredeep