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Post  joe82 Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:35 pm

hi all, does anyone use signal boosters on the 7k if so what tickles your fancy and works the best im looking at buying one and was woundering what suits the 7 best Cool

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Post  rockhunter62 Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:10 pm

Hi Joe,

I'm currently running the B&Z booster but will be going over to the SP01 shortly. The SP01 is a lot more solidly built and will survive my treatment better than the plastic B&Z. Also has more options and I dare say better built.

Cheers

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Post  SteelPat Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:51 am

rockhunter62 wrote:Hi Joe,

 I'm currently running the B&Z booster but will be going over to the SP01 shortly. The SP01 is a lot more solidly built and will survive my treatment better than the plastic B&Z. Also has more options and I dare say better built.

Cheers

Doug

The sP01 works very well on the 7000. In fact the 'ducks foot' nugget (107oz) was found at the beginning of the year with a 7000 running the sP01.

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Post  Nightjar Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:06 pm

sP01 gets 5 Star rating with the GPZ. cheers
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Post  joe82 Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:26 pm

cheers guys any chance of a price steelpat???

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Post  AnnieL Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:34 pm

Here is a link. Get a canvas cover for it as well.
https://phasetechnical.com.au/product/steelphase-sp01-audio-enhancer/
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Post  SteelPat Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:36 pm

joe82 wrote:cheers guys any chance of a price steelpat???

Sorry I missed your message. RRP is $248

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Post  Jonathan Porter Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:44 pm

SteelPat wrote:
rockhunter62 wrote:Hi Joe,

 I'm currently running the B&Z booster but will be going over to the SP01 shortly. The SP01 is a lot more solidly built and will survive my treatment better than the plastic B&Z. Also has more options and I dare say better built.

Cheers

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The sP01 works very well on the 7000. In fact the 'ducks foot' nugget (107oz) was found at the beginning of the year with a 7000 running the sP01.

I’ve lost count of the big nuggets found with the B&Z, including my own 83, 79 and 54 ounce pieces found in just one afternoon.

The B&Z has a plastic housing for a reason, the GPZ does not see it like it’s a 90 ounce nugget at 4 feet.

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Post  rockhunter62 Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:29 pm

Jonathan Porter wrote:
SteelPat wrote:
rockhunter62 wrote:Hi Joe,

 I'm currently running the B&Z booster but will be going over to the SP01 shortly. The SP01 is a lot more solidly built and will survive my treatment better than the plastic B&Z. Also has more options and I dare say better built.

Cheers

Doug

The sP01 works very well on the 7000. In fact the 'ducks foot' nugget (107oz) was found at the beginning of the year with a 7000 running the sP01.

I’ve lost count of the big nuggets found with the B&Z, including my own 83, 79 and 54 ounce pieces found in just one afternoon.

The B&Z has a plastic housing for a reason, the GPZ does not see it like it’s a 90 ounce nugget at 4 feet.

JP

That's all well and good Jonathon but the pick on my hip and the gps/radio in my pocket doesn't seem to affect the detector. I probably won't have to re-solder any of the connections inside the SP01 either. Don't get me wrong, I have had success with the B&Z but it does cop a hard time from me.

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Post  joe82 Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:16 am

I plan to carry it in my cammelbak so it should be clear enough I think but I do have to turn my phone off if its in my pocket??? that's a good arvo JP congrats!!!!!!!!!!

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Post  adrian ss Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:50 am

Why does a 10 grand + machine need an audio booster when the entire machine was built around providing the best possible target signals?
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Post  rockhunter62 Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:51 pm

If you are going to spend $9500 on a detector, what's another $250? Why do people climb mountains? Because they can.

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Post  adrian ss Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:27 pm

The 7000 is not mnt everest it is a bunch of electronic components and if 250 bucks worth of bits n pieces makes it better than designed at 9500 bucks  just by bunging in some audio compressors and filters n stuff between the hps and the control box why was that not included in the original design.....I mean it aint difficult.
What I am trying to say is does the SP01 realy make a great improvement or is it just imagination playing a hand?

Those who have found gold while using the enhancer then that is great but would you have found it without the enhancer?
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Post  Kon61gold Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:26 pm

I'll try answering that one Adrian.
Sometimes the detectors in-coming signal strength/response, is just not adequate enough to be clearly heard by each individuals hearing, after having set the detector up, to the operators preferred or desired detector settings. Hence a signal enhancer.
A signal enhancers job has nothing to do with enhancing the output performance of the detector, instead it works on enhancing the detectors set up output volume, so that each individual, can better hear that faint in-ground positive signal target responses, coming through their headphones or speaker, that would otherwise be drowned out by a plethora of unwanted detector or on/in-ground signal response.
In other words, once one has set up their detector, to their preferred comfortable audio working level, being then able to control or increase that comfortable working audio level, to better suit each individuals hearing, is what the job of an audio signal enhancer is all about.  
Its not just about raising the detectors volume, so that one can now hear the incoming signals better, but raising/enhancing those incoming signal responses, whilst at the same time, keeping any unnecessary or unwanted audio background signal distortion or hum to a minimum, of which otherwise could drown out the presence of any faint tiny near surface, or deeper down, in-ground positive target signals.
BTW, if one has set up their detector to run noisy & or of uneven threshold hum, don't expect the audio enhancer to cancel all that uneven noise/distortion out. After all, Its main job is to enhance the detectors audio output, not cancel out, what one has set the detector up to hear.
Am I somewhat right in how I'v worded the above all you electronic guru's out there, or have I distorted myself out? Shocked  Q35

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Post  SteelPat Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:06 am

adrian ss wrote:The 7000 is not mnt everest it is a bunch of electronic components and if 250 bucks worth of bits n pieces makes it better than designed at 9500 bucks  just by bunging in some audio compressors and filters n stuff between the hps and the control box why was that not included in the original design.....I mean it aint difficult.
What I am trying to say is does the SP01 realy make a great improvement or is it just imagination playing a hand?

Those who have found gold while using the enhancer then that is great but would you have found it without the enhancer?

In a word, yes.

I personally have gone over ground that I had worked previously and found more nuggets at a greater depth. I also have hundreds of emails and photos from others who have also gone over previously worked ground and found targets they missed. Some, to prove it to themselves, also disconnected enhancer and went back over the targets and then couldn't hear them.

As for the technical side that way I look at it is like this. Minelab make great detectors. Their big strength is the design and implementation of sending signals into the ground and getting target responses back. The final audio stage is probably the least of their priorities. The audio signal coming out of their machines (whether it be GPX or GPZ) contains more information than is currently being utilized. Targets responses are there but are lost in threshold and noise.
Its a bit like with cars. The main manufacturers make a new car and do a good job. But if you add performance parts (suspension, cams, change electronics etc) you make it better.
Anyway, that's my take. In the end, what ever helps people find more gold is right by me. For some it may be that the add-ons give them more confidence in the machine, but for others, it definitely gives them an advantage over others not using anything.

regards Pat

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Post  SteelPat Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:08 am

Kon61gold wrote:I'll try answering that one Adrian.
Sometimes the detectors in-coming signal strength/response, is just not adequate enough to be clearly heard by each individuals hearing, after having set the detector up, to the operators preferred or desired detector settings. Hence a signal enhancer.
A signal enhancers job has nothing to do with enhancing the output performance of the detector, instead it works on enhancing the detectors set up output volume, so that each individual, can better hear that faint in-ground positive signal target responses, coming through their headphones or speaker, that would otherwise be drowned out by a plethora of unwanted detector or on/in-ground signal response.
In other words, once one has set up their detector, to their preferred comfortable audio working level, being then able to control or increase that comfortable working audio level, to better suit each individuals hearing, is what the job of an audio signal enhancer is all about.  
Its not just about raising the detectors volume, so that one can now hear the incoming signals better, but raising/enhancing those incoming signal responses, whilst at the same time, keeping any unnecessary or unwanted audio background signal distortion or hum to a minimum, of which otherwise could drown out the presence of any faint tiny near surface, or deeper down, in-ground positive target signals.
BTW, if one has set up their detector to run noisy & or of uneven threshold hum, don't expect the audio enhancer to cancel all that uneven noise/distortion out. After all, Its main job is to enhance the detectors audio output, not cancel out, what one has set the detector up to hear.
Am I somewhat right in how I'v worded the above all you electronic guru's out there, or have I distorted myself out? Shocked  Q35

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Not too bad at all Kon. cheers

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Post  adrian ss Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:10 am

Good replies. Thanks .
Now! Do I get a commission for triggering a rush of SP01 orders? Laughing
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Post  Kon61gold Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:20 pm

Ahh no Adrian. This is a free for all forum, where members contribute what they want, when they want. The only form of commission given out here, is a good  V04 when we step out of line. BTW, that also includes me. Shocked Q35

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Post  hugh62 Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:13 pm

adrian ss wrote:The 7000 is not mnt everest it is a bunch of electronic components and if 250 bucks worth of bits n pieces makes it better than designed at 9500 bucks  just by bunging in some audio compressors and filters n stuff between the hps and the control box why was that not included in the original design.....I mean it aint difficult.
What I am trying to say is does the SP01 realy make a great improvement or is it just imagination playing a hand?

Those who have found gold while using the enhancer then that is great but would you have found it without the enhancer?


      I sort of agree a bit with you on this one .And whilst I appreciate and use the audio / options I have with my 5k ,thou of course ground types dictate how much you can use them , with Minelab's  audio engineering ability's ,and for the minium cost they could produce another audio option that '' HIGH LIGHTS '' that threshold .I don't have a SPO1 , so can't comment .And great if you can wear head phones . Imagination playing a hand ,no I doubt that ,as I consider my B&Z booster a '' NECASSARY BURDEN '' clipped on my harness ,I wont leave home with out it . I reckon probably 25% too 50% of all targets ,I contribute to the booster ,that i'd never hear other wise ,cause I cant wear head phones ,and the noise I generate by dozing the coil ,and even bird noise .
                      But more importantly I feel it becomes a '' SUBCONSCIOUS '' act , bit like when you get a EMI spike ,I curse myself ''CONSCIOUSLY '' swinging the coil back knowing its only a emi spike , and I find myself doing the same thing with a threshold change / variation ,oooohh I think ,what was that  Question ,and in 90% of all cases ,there is a target .
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Post  adrian ss Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:56 pm

Of the boosters that I Have used the B&Z got the most use on my Infinium and the 2300.
Am not totally sure what my prime reason for deciding to not use it was although I was very often on noisy ground and the noise became more pronounced with the booster.. At the beach it is great but still I have never refitted it or any other booster.

Who knows? at 250 bucks maybe I will give the SP a tryout.
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Post  joe82 Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:43 pm

cheers steelpat, for putting me onto lost treasures gold shop in Brisbane they wer nice enough to hold one for me for a couple of days and then ship it up to the towers for $15 cant wait to give her a lap Cool cheers

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