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Post  Guest Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:08 pm

Went into a minelab dealer in victoria when there hoping to get a ferrite ring for my 7000 and they told me that one would cost $20.00.
so i thought would call into minelab in adelaide and they told me if one was not issued with the machine new, then we were told that they can supply one for $20.00
I was of the opinion that they would issue them for free is you supplied serial number.
well, will not be getting one at this stage.
not bad for the expense of the machine and for something that they promote as helping the machine to ground balance. TG

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Post  Ash100456 Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:30 pm

The selling dealers were handing them out to all their purchasers, I would go back to your selling dealer and get one. Fair enough to have to pay for a second one ( spare one ) as i wouldn't mind getting a spare in case i lose it ( they do work )

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Post  Guest Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:19 pm

Only new machines sold now come with one ferrite free.
head office will not give any free to existing owners who never got one. You have to purchase.
we never got one with our machine as was purchased before they were introduced. 
Not so good PR.     TG

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Post  Ash100456 Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:18 pm

G'day Travelergold, Yeah i purchased my Zed on their release date, My selling dealer contacted me regarding the ferrite thingy when they had them available and posted one out to me ( sometime in June from memory )
I would still contact your selling dealer, Would be a very hard nosed selling dealer to not give you one and i certainly wouldn't be going back if they didn't.
With the latest free download for the Zed from Minelab ( last monday ) you need the ferrite thingy.

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Post  geof_junk Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:46 pm

Anybody tried a free fridge magnet instead of paying $20 for 7000 short comings.
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Post  Guest Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:11 pm

Not quite sure what to make of this post, I don't own a 7000, but having to buy another piece of paraphernalia so as to ground balance a very expensive bit of equipment from the same manufacture sounds like something out of a Agatha Christy novel.

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Post  AraratGold Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:53 pm

I just got one sent from Bendigogold a few days ago for my ZED which I bought 3 days old back in late Feb.
No cost, just supplied my serial number.
Minelab stated to me that every dealer got supplied one for every ZED they had sold, so contact your dealer that you bought the ZED from.

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Post  goldquest Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:19 am

I got one free from Bendigo Gold in Bendigo where I bought my 7000 in March, they even send it to me postage free.
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Post  alchemist Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:11 am

Things are pretty tight in corporate land these days.........

What I don't understand is why they didn't capture the ferrite response and include a modeled soft ferrite it in the patch.

You can computer model darn near anything these days, they had the perfect opportunity to do away with it, so we didn't need to carry the blooming thing everywhere???  

On second thoughts, Z may need external target stimuli of a known quality so that the coil can be calibrated. ZVT ground balance may be very dependent upon perfect balance between the two Rx coils?

I'm trying to locate another source for the rings...many are just $2 or $3 each depending upon frequency and material.

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Post  Qld Sandy Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:34 am

The Ferrite rings were introduced to aid in ground balancing in some soils, and some people don't even use them.
I understand that they were to be distributed to those that had bought a GPZ until they were added to the boxes.
We sent them out postage free to all that had purchased a machine until they started showing up in the package.
Some people are losing their ferrites and I have supplied them another.
We now have no more free ones and they are available as a spare part, so if you lose it or break it, you will have to purchase a new one.
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Post  slimpickens Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:51 am

Just out of interest,.... could you drag an earth magnet around your detecting area and put what ever sticks to it in a film canister, then use it like the ferrite? Would it give you a more localized result to ground balance with? You could change the contents of the canister at every new area you go to.
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Post  Guest Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:58 am

slimpickens wrote:Just out of interest,.... could you drag an earth magnet around your detecting area and put what ever sticks to it in a film canister, then use it like the ferrite? Would it give you a more localized result to ground balance with? You could change the contents of the canister at every new area you go to.

G'day Harry

Mate that is a heap of bother to go to, just use the "Yellow Ferrite Ring", you will find that after you do the update and give the 7000 a good swing over the ferrite in auto tracking it will remember and even after turning off at lunch time etc, just turn on after lunch and start detecting, no need to redo anything, even the next day it was all good just start detecting and LEAVE THE QUICK TRACK BUTTON alone, the more you use it after everything is in sync it is just putting everything back to square one.

When in auto tracking now, just bob the coil up and down a bit if it needs it without touching the (quick track button) and all will be good.

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Post  goldie Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:37 pm

Wouldn't these do the same job, don't know if their the same size
http://www.altronics.com.au/p/l4534a-33-x-19.8-x-11.1-toroid-core/

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Post  Ash100456 Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:01 pm

Dont know what all this tech stuff means but from the Whitepaper it appears to be important ! **** it's only $20 in the big scheme of things in our investment of the Zed @ $10,700

Quote from the white paper

"Further technical information
A ‘dust iron’ toroid suitable for the HF frequency band (e.g.1–30MHz
with an initial permeability of between 6 and 10) has been carefully
selected. It is recommended to use this specific Minelab accessory,
only. Alternate ferrites may significantly degrade ground balance
quality"

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Post  alchemist Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:00 pm

goldie wrote:Wouldn't these do the same job, don't know if their the same size
http://www.altronics.com.au/p/l4534a-33-x-19.8-x-11.1-toroid-core/

G'day goldie, that one doesn't appear to fit the specs Ashley quoted.

This one might be closer, but it should be available much cheaper with a bit of scratting around.

toroid

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Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:43 pm

Thanks to one fellow forum member for sending us a yellow ferrite, and other included gear.
he knows who he is and wanted to remain unnamed.
There is many people on this forum who i enjoy reading there posts and are informative and this gives the forum such credence. 
thanks, TG

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Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:51 pm

G'day travelergold

Mate I'm glad that someone has helped you out, they need a big congratulations.

Catch up again with you oneday mate, it was a pleasure to meet you and talk to you at the bash.

cheers dave


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