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Post  maka on Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:41 pm

Hi Guys and Girls..
I have been toying with an idea of making a 1200 acre prospectors patch in Queensland.
500 acres for horses, to adjist, and have guided tours etc.
The block has 3 large dams, so they could be stocked with fish.
This is probably Queenslands best alluvial ground. ( Location disclosed) for obvious reasons.
500 acres to prospect on.
200 Acres to set up a mobile wash plant for pocket money.
I am looking for investors, as all ammenities etc have to be built, Insurances, mining permits etc.
I want to make simply the best camp grounds in Queensland for campers, prospectors, fisherman, and Horse riders.With panning, and detecting tours etc.
Please PM me if your seriously interested as this is going to take some serious money to get up and running, but well worth it in my opinion.
I have some staff already sorted as tour operators and management, and equine specialists.
Looking for the guy who wants to retire, do what he loves, and hopefully become very financially secure doing it.
Look forward to your PM if you have capital, and want to join this venture.
regards Gavin
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Post  fatninja on Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:47 pm

Go for it mate! cheers

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Post  Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:38 pm

Maka

Think i better fly over and test/thrash that ground for potential ay Razz Razz Razz

Good luck with the venture mate, its a brilliant idea.

These types of Prospecting Ranches are very polpular in the states

http://www.goldprospecting.com/index.htm



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Post  davsgold on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:45 pm

Do you have a prospectus that I can have a look at, or a link to download it.

cheers dave
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Post  Flakmagnet on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:54 pm

Hi Maka,

Think you have a forward-looking idea there.
This is a post I put into another thread, perhaps there are some elements in
this club that would help you.
Very best of luck with this endeavor...


WSPA (Western States Prospectors Association) here in the US
was started about four or five years ago by a detecting partner of mine, Dennis Miller.
The idea was that a group of people band together and acquire a number of claims.
WSPA now owns claims in Arizona, California and Nevada - I don't know the exact number but quite a few.
Starting WSPA had all the usual slight teething problems of a new organization,
but in fact it has worked incredibly well.
I believe membership now numbers about sixty or seventy people and I
think there is a cap of around 120 on the membership to keep it from getting unwieldy.

We now "own" many claims (by staking the claim markers, doing the assessment work and paying the fees),
where we are able to camp, detect, sluice, pan, dry wash.
We have club officers who are elected by the membership,
we pay annual dues which are mainly used to purchase other claims.
We have a number of outings during the year in different locations where we not only
prospect but do clean-up work and have meetings concerning administrative and legislative aspects of the organization.
We are responsible in our actions knowing that we can set an example should regulatory groups care to take a look.
We are not active politically preferring to keep a low profile.

There is a WSPA website that is password protected where members can
stay up-to-date with club information, gossip, opinions etc.
There are a number of WSPA members who frequent this forum
who may want to write in finer detail on how the club works.
It has proved itself as a workable solution to the shrinking possibilities that continue to hamper us all.
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Post  maka on Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:15 am

davsgold wrote:Do you have a prospectus that I can have a look at, or a link to download it.

cheers dave
Sorry Dave I have nothing on paper as yet. I have the location picked out. It had a few mines,, But mostly it was an alluvial ground. Over 20,000 ounces came out of it, in the day. But it has been private property for so long i doubt its even had a detector over it.
The rest is all in my head, as this is a brand new idea.
I just want somewhere, where the average family can actually find gold in a pan with minimal effort. I know they would be hooked once they see the flash in the pan.
And guys actually have a chance to find decent specimens with a detector, or sluice.
Theres 2 creeks on the property, so water is not an issue,
I want something with minimal 4x4 noise, no motorbikes. A family orientated place, with good ammenities.
Taking out a lease on a block and pegging a claim is great, But this is going to be a long term investment, with solid ground under your feet.
If i had the capital behind me i would do it alone, but after a divorce i need a business partner.
I see other guys pegging claims in reef country, I dont understand it? Why not alluvial grounds?
Why peg a claim if you can buy the whole block? Keep it forever or build it up into a massive business and wait for the big boys to try to buy you out or sit on it and relax. Knowing you have a steady income, and gold under your feet just waiting to be pulled out of the ground.
Even without turning it into a park as such. If this block gets picked up by a private guy and we miss the opportunity to detect it, its going to be a sad day.
Queensland is not like W.A we are short of decent gold bearing ground, and in my eyes this thing would be an incredible opportunity.
All for the same price an average house would sell for in a good suburb..

Plan 2
Not develop into a park, buy the block, drop a cheap home on it, run some sheep or cattle for pocket money, set up a wash plant, get all the permits, keep the gates locked, and start digging.
Once i have a decent amount of gold, use that to extend into a park slowly adding onto it.

As i said this is a new idea, So i am throwing it out there. I know there some semi retired guys who would jump on this, and some wealthy farmers aswell. I just need the right man/family for the job to help me out.

I will keep you posted, I am trying to get out there ASAP to do some test holes/ panning/ sluicing/ detecting. To see whats viable. I know it has a few draw cards, so only time will tell which one is the best.
P.S If i pull a 20 ouncer out of there, this post will be deleted... Laughing
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Post  davo on Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:10 pm

sounds like fun mate how much?
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Post  Buckinroo Jake on Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:43 pm

Hi Maka, you might be looking in the same area as I am, so maybe we should talk and who knows.
I'm currently in Tassie until Tuesday, but you can PM me and we can arrange to talk.

Cheers, Keith (Buckinroo Jake)

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Post  Guest on Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:23 am

I dont believe this forum should be promoting this sort of opportunity without the perpetrators of the scheme having all the legal requirements in place -- prospectus would be a good start--
We have had other incidents of misappropriation of conduct unbecoming especially with fleabay--surely promoting a business opportunity looking for cash without a prospectus is illegal.

Just my thoughts

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Post  maka on Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:04 pm

I am not asking for money from anyone, And this is a gold prospecting forum . This is an idea to hopefully get a decent gold detecting ranch/ camp ground, etc operating in Queensland. Its great for the industry/ hobby. So i cant see any concern to those whom dont want to participate in it. When its open feel free to come have a dig though. Very Happy
I dare say solicitors will have a great role in getting this thing off the ground, and done fairly for any parties involved.
I have no prospectus, as this idea is brand new and i am looking for people with knowledge and business experience to help get it off the ground.
I have a dream/ idea, it would be nice to turn it into reality.
Ultimately i want to sit down face to face with anyone whom is seriously interested and work out if we can get this idea into reality, and make it as risk free for all involved. I have everything to lose as i am putting every last cent i have into this.
I would do it on my own, but the figures needed are out of my reach. And i dare say i will need 2 partners. I already have one maybe 2 interested, and will keep their identities private until otherwise advised.
Sorry for having an idea, if it goes against this forums policies, feel free to delete it.
Why look for negatives in something that should be a massive positive for Queensland Prospectors?
If someone else beat me to this idea, in this area i would happily pay to prospect there, and forget about trying to start this venture.
We are not talking about ebay scams here.. Unless solicitors, realestate agents, valuers, bank managers etc all are common place on ebay?
Those who know me, would make a comment on my character. But i do see where your coming from, there are some shonky people out there, and i would hate to see anyone be ripped off, including myself. Thats why this will all be done above board with proper legal representation.
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Post  The Modern Day Prospector on Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:38 pm

I think you have the right idea Maka and there would be a lot of paper work involved, maybe a prospectus done up will generate a lot of interest for your project, the only thing I would be worried about is 1200 acres, this ground will get hammered by prospectors pretty fast, I would be looking for a lot larger area but the cost also would be out of reach for most of us.



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Post  maka on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:02 pm

1200 Acres would suffice, if it rains its new ground, and if it doesnt, get a scraper in and take 4 inches off the top in the favourite spots, and it will be better than new..
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Post  Flakmagnet on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:17 pm

I really like your idea Maka,
and it's also easy to understand people not wanting to open the forum up to the potential for rip-offs and pirates.

But it's one thing to have a well-known contributing forum member float out an innovative idea
and quite another worrying about someone falling for
one of the startlingly bizarre schemes and deals that pop up here every once in a while.

Surely we're vigilant enough and smart enough to spot and ferret out the phonies
and, one would hope, supportive and encouraging to the innovators.
It is the innovators, the people who "think differently," who have made this hobby what it is.
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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:58 pm

I say go for it Maka,everyone has to work towards their dreams.
1200 acres is a massive chunk of land.
I have been working a 3 acre paddock on a mates property for six years and there is still gold coming out.

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Post  maka on Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:09 pm

Thanks Reg.
I am happy with all the responses in PM's i am getting with this idea.
The general idea is out there, now i just need to get all the people interested together, and see what everyone wants out of it.
So many variables, some want to mine it, some want a secure place to live and work with a good lifestyle, some just want to see the figures and piles of cash returns..
This is going to be some seriously hard work, but thats what lifes all about i guess...
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Post  maka on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:02 pm

A big thanks to all i have talked to regarding the business venture of 1200 acres of prime prospecting grounds.
I am happy to announce that theres a willing partner to help get this venture going in the very near future.
It will accommodate, horse riders,prospectors, campers, bush walkers, . And just somewhere to rest your head going to or from Qld to Nsw.
There will be NO motorbikes as CDI ignition plays havok with detectors.
It will have 2 bores, dams,bungalows, machinery sheds, stables,yards,a shop,ablution block ( all new) and a fully operational wash plant, loader, excavator, etc.
There will also be gold panning tours for those with kids or whom want to learn, by a professional panner.

Stay tuned, this will be a massive positive for Queenslands prospecting industry / hobby.
Hope to see you all at the front gate on opening day.
And i thought Xmas was exciting....
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Post  reg on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:29 pm

maka wrote:A big thanks to all i have talked to regarding the business venture of 1200 acres of prime prospecting grounds.
I am happy to announce that theres a willing partner to help get this venture going in the very near future.
It will accommodate, horse riders,prospectors, campers, bush walkers, . And just somewhere to rest your head going to or from Qld to Nsw.
There will be NO motorbikes as CDI ignition plays havok with detectors.
It will have 2 bores, dams,bungalows, machinery sheds, stables,yards,a shop,ablution block ( all new) and a fully operational wash plant, loader, excavator, etc.
There will also be gold panning tours for those with kids or whom want to learn, by a professional panner.

Stay tuned, this will be a massive positive for Queenslands prospecting industry / hobby.
Hope to see you all at the front gate on opening day.
And i thought Xmas was exciting....

good one macka hope it all works out. live your dream cheers cheers cheers
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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:47 pm

Best of luck in your venture maka. I can guess who the other party is as someone showed a bit of interest in your original post. You have a lot of work ahead but you also seem to have the drive and enthusiasm as well.
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Post  maka on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:54 pm

You only live once. As a truck driver i cant see myself enjoying driving for the next 30 years.
I love my horses, and prospecting, so combining the both is a dream come true...
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Post  maka on Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:20 pm

4 stroke quads should be ok. And 2 strokes maybe. But there will be strict guide lines on speed restrictions. I would hate to see anyone injured especially children. And only use designated paths. I would hate to see nice country ripped up by bikes, and noise pollution destroy the tranquility that people enjoy.
I myself understand the need for transport, as walking is an issue for many people.
But there will be tracks everywhere to make every area easily accessible even in 2wd vehicles.
The motor bike issue, will be thought out as the ground plan eventuates. But ultimately horses and motorbikes will have to be seperated.
The best gold ground will be left for detectorists, and a no vehicle zone in horse areas. But where else can you strap on a pan, ride out into the sunset, and pan for gold?
Areas will be rotated, weekly/ monthly/ etc depending on the needs of the clients. So where you pan this week in the car, you may have to walk or ride a horse to in 3 months time.

Or a give way to animal rule could be implemented when riders are seen , vehicles have to stop and wait until they pass.

So many options available, but i dont want it turned into a krusty demons test track.
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Post  slimpickens on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:44 pm

Hope it all goes well for you Maka, and if I could add my two cents worth, don't let motorbikes anywhere near the place. There is nothing worse when out detecting then having trailbike riders disturbing the tranquil zone you get into.
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Post  Guest on Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:44 am

Awesome effort Maka,
I will make the trip up for sure once you have the show up and running.
Plus it will give me a chance to visit the rellies...maybe Wink

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Post  Guest on Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:56 pm

SORRY MAKA
MUST HAVE READ YOUR ARTICLE WRONG--THOUGHT U WAS LOOKING FOR CAPITAL--

Trouble with any venture-no matter how good or bad--the legal ramification can be harrendous especially when their are partners involved.

Sound good anyway.

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Post  charcoal_chaser on Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:07 pm

Well done i,ve got the pajero packed n ready to go just send me grand opening date Question

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Post  Goldbait on Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:28 pm

shiraz wrote:Hope it all goes well for you Maka, and if I could add my two cents worth, don't let motorbikes anywhere near the place. There is nothing worse when out detecting then having trailbike riders disturbing the tranquil zone you get into.

totally have to agree with this comment. Keep motobikes away. But i would allow quad bikes.

Maka, i missed the previous post, but good luck on this venture. would love to hear more about it when things progress and your 1200 acres is open.
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Post  maka on Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:27 pm

My avatar is about 5 grams found in a 2 day period. In Queensland thats ok going in my books considering the bedrock wasnt even cleaned up. Each to their own. Some people are happy to find a few bits just to chalk it off the bucket list. Some people want to come home with pockets overflowing. If theres a better spot in Queensland within 2 hrs from the gold coast and 3 hrs from Brisbane i would love to hear about it. But thanks for the negative comment...
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Post  gollstar on Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:51 pm

I just saw the avatar a bit disturbing, but still very funny Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy it would be funnier if it didnt have kids in it but instead had famous hot celebs, or funny if it was gillard etc
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Post  maka on Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:16 pm

Sorry you have lost me. This is a screen shot of my avatar, from where i am sitting, and looking at my screen...
Not sure what you guys are seeing???
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Ahhh now i see, its the avatar in that other site. Sorry i should have taken it down, but i simply forgot, It was a private joke with someone ... oooppsss
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Post  gollstar on Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:30 pm

I clicked one of the links to another forum on this thread, and i have no idea if its you in the other forum he's called makaw or somthing.

The only thing i think is funny is the cartoon that looks like Heman from the 80's and the concept of whats going on i think thats funny but not the people chosen to be on the recieving end, i think it could be funny if those carractors where changed, sandra sully, gillard, clinton, merckel, etc etc somthing along those lines
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Post  maka on Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:51 pm

Ahhh now i see, its the avatar in that other site. Sorry i should have taken it down, but i simply forgot, It was a private joke with someone ... oooppsss

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