Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
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Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
I asked a few people this question when I was down in Victoria last month testing my new 5000.The question assumes that the ground allowed either to work OK.
One very knowlegable guy said "leave it in FINE GOLD". What does everyone else think ?
Thanks,
Jig.
One very knowlegable guy said "leave it in FINE GOLD". What does everyone else think ?
Thanks,
Jig.
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Re: Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
Gday Jig, I always leave my 5000 in fine gold, if you are in very hot ground you may need to run it in Enhanced, I also run my 5000 in Audio Quiet, this allows you to turn up the gain a few notches, give it ago tell me what you think. Sorry I missed you in Victoria I would of like to catch up, never mind maybe next time.
Regards Johnny
Regards Johnny
Re: Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
Thanks Johnny. I will try it out in "Audio Quiet".
I was running a GAIN of 15 during most of my Vic trip, using a 6" Coiltec joey ellip mono. A bit noisy, but no real problems.
I met four of our posters during the trip and it was great to put faces and personalities to the names. Hopefully we can meet up on my next visit, have a swing and chew the fat.
Jig.
I was running a GAIN of 15 during most of my Vic trip, using a 6" Coiltec joey ellip mono. A bit noisy, but no real problems.
I met four of our posters during the trip and it was great to put faces and personalities to the names. Hopefully we can meet up on my next visit, have a swing and chew the fat.
Jig.
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Re: Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
G'day Jig
With the 5000 17" ellip combo
Front panel.
Gen
Fixed
Mono
Special/Fine gold
Rear Screen.
All FP except these,
Gain 14 - 16
Motion slow/v,slow
Stabilizer 6 - 10
Signal 17 -19
And do a very slow close (2 - 5cm) pump on the balance.
I find these settings work very well over here on my c/tek 17x10 mini ufo and my 18x12 nugget tech mono,
the main thing is dont be sloppy with the GB, if not happy do it again until you are happy with the stability
and make sure you have at least 50% of the ground under the coil while doing the GB ironstone pebbles..
Also i would advise you to never use the "quiet mode" for any reason over here or you WILL miss gold thats a fact,
you are better off lowering the gain/stabilizer than using "quiet" mode,otherwise its like swinging a 3500/4000 in
sens smooth and we all know what thats like.....
Sandstone bloke today tells me that already there are lots of people from the east rocking up
in the van pk and its already 1/2 full..
Good luck on your trip over here and here's to you
getting onto a nice little patch ay...
Pete in WA
With the 5000 17" ellip combo
Front panel.
Gen
Fixed
Mono
Special/Fine gold
Rear Screen.
All FP except these,
Gain 14 - 16
Motion slow/v,slow
Stabilizer 6 - 10
Signal 17 -19
And do a very slow close (2 - 5cm) pump on the balance.
I find these settings work very well over here on my c/tek 17x10 mini ufo and my 18x12 nugget tech mono,
the main thing is dont be sloppy with the GB, if not happy do it again until you are happy with the stability
and make sure you have at least 50% of the ground under the coil while doing the GB ironstone pebbles..
Also i would advise you to never use the "quiet mode" for any reason over here or you WILL miss gold thats a fact,
you are better off lowering the gain/stabilizer than using "quiet" mode,otherwise its like swinging a 3500/4000 in
sens smooth and we all know what thats like.....
Sandstone bloke today tells me that already there are lots of people from the east rocking up
in the van pk and its already 1/2 full..
Good luck on your trip over here and here's to you
getting onto a nice little patch ay...
Pete in WA
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Re: Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
Pete,
That is great advice - I have printed it out. Thanks heaps.
I will be detecting at Leonora and Sandstone - can't wait.
Jig
That is great advice - I have printed it out. Thanks heaps.
I will be detecting at Leonora and Sandstone - can't wait.
Jig
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Jig
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Hi all, not that my advice would account for annything but it would be: do not get stuck in the rut of most detectorists and keep you machine in the same settings all of the time everywhere, experiment with the normal timeings and try different settings, you may find that a combination may suit a ground type for a particular area perfect.
If you are affraid of changing too many settings for the fear of messings things up, then my advice would be: Learn your machine.
If you are affraid of changing too many settings for the fear of messings things up, then my advice would be: Learn your machine.
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GPX
Very wise words there mate...
When all else fails drag a 5ft bit of railway line over the top & get stuck into it.
Jig
Dont forget your gear for the gold in the caprock cause you dont wanna go into town
with a crazed look onyer face asking "where can i hire a jack hammer" haha
Pete in WA
Very wise words there mate...
When all else fails drag a 5ft bit of railway line over the top & get stuck into it.
Jig
Dont forget your gear for the gold in the caprock cause you dont wanna go into town
with a crazed look onyer face asking "where can i hire a jack hammer" haha
Pete in WA
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Pete,
Yes, I have two chisels and a hammer thanks. I must tell you about a lady last year who was detecting with our group up near Mertonvale. She got a good signal in the virgin calcrete at the bottom of her dirt hole. All "chipped in" to help her get down to it. After about 4" they found a very nice sardine tin. A driller had dropped it down a 45degree drill hole, the entrance of which had disappeared over time. Bummer !
One night at the pub in Laverton I was having dinner and I got to talking with a professional detectorist. He was a fascinating guy and after dinner, he took me back to his room to show me the two bank bags that he was taking down to Kal. They were all gold in calcrete - I have never seen a collection like it.
Now I take calcrete very seriously !
Jig.
Yes, I have two chisels and a hammer thanks. I must tell you about a lady last year who was detecting with our group up near Mertonvale. She got a good signal in the virgin calcrete at the bottom of her dirt hole. All "chipped in" to help her get down to it. After about 4" they found a very nice sardine tin. A driller had dropped it down a 45degree drill hole, the entrance of which had disappeared over time. Bummer !
One night at the pub in Laverton I was having dinner and I got to talking with a professional detectorist. He was a fascinating guy and after dinner, he took me back to his room to show me the two bank bags that he was taking down to Kal. They were all gold in calcrete - I have never seen a collection like it.
Now I take calcrete very seriously !
Jig.
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Goldstalker - good advice - and after the last trip to the Triangle where Fred (What's the Time) made me play with the gain / stab for every situation, I am a great believer in what you are saying.
Thanks,
Jig.
Thanks,
Jig.
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Jig
Stop off at the fruit fly staion at eucla and pick up ya WA passport ay left ya one there.
have a great season and i too love the mertondale/cardinia/triangle area.. so hay leave us a bit ay
hahahaha...
Pete in WA
Stop off at the fruit fly staion at eucla and pick up ya WA passport ay left ya one there.
have a great season and i too love the mertondale/cardinia/triangle area.. so hay leave us a bit ay
hahahaha...
Pete in WA
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gday jig.
i used my 17 elip late last year with my 5000 solely in fine gold. i was able to run quite a high gain setting also. i was happy with what i found, which was around 150 pieces. pretty good coil that one. im off tomorrow to the area i had to abandon due to heavy rains so am getting very excited about this trip. found my biggest nugget here too. im not sure others may agree with me but i found the audio in boost to be a very handy setting.
i used my 17 elip late last year with my 5000 solely in fine gold. i was able to run quite a high gain setting also. i was happy with what i found, which was around 150 pieces. pretty good coil that one. im off tomorrow to the area i had to abandon due to heavy rains so am getting very excited about this trip. found my biggest nugget here too. im not sure others may agree with me but i found the audio in boost to be a very handy setting.
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hi jig
havent got the 17x11 yet but thinking about it.
but with the 14x9 love it and 16 round i use fine gold mostly but am always wondering if i am missing out on depth
so i change regarly from fine ,enhance and normal the only time i have found normal better was on a specimen down about 600mm responce was more of a felling than sound possably just ground noise, but after 100mm down it was a real responce.
originaly picked up in fine gold and just sliglty better in normal .
as i say this was at the extreem of range it was the sligest of responce i love the 5000
pete
havent got the 17x11 yet but thinking about it.
but with the 14x9 love it and 16 round i use fine gold mostly but am always wondering if i am missing out on depth
so i change regarly from fine ,enhance and normal the only time i have found normal better was on a specimen down about 600mm responce was more of a felling than sound possably just ground noise, but after 100mm down it was a real responce.
originaly picked up in fine gold and just sliglty better in normal .
as i say this was at the extreem of range it was the sligest of responce i love the 5000
pete
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Re: Using a 17" NF ellip mono in WA, would you put your 5000 in ENHANCE or FINE GOLD ?
Used to be a newbie,
Thanks for that info. I hope you clean up at your spot.
Pete,
I must do some comparison testing on a faint target (when I get over there) like you did.
Thanks a lot,
Jig
Thanks for that info. I hope you clean up at your spot.
Pete,
I must do some comparison testing on a faint target (when I get over there) like you did.
Thanks a lot,
Jig
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