Hoping to find enough gold to survive. your input is most welcome

Hello my name is luke i am 22 i just got the sack been a demolition machine operator in the melbourne cbd sinse i was 18. So i've decided with only my redundancy pay out to buy a detector and dissapear somewhere i am heavily disadvantaged as i dont have a car. I can only afford a new x terra 705 gold. i am hopefull becauise i need only find enough gold to support my food and detector upkeep and being out there fopr two weeks at a time should increase my chances as the fact im willing to enter old mines. I am asking for help in finding some big areas in victoria i can consider going to. any input at all will be greatly appreciated Also please offer your opinion on weather u thinkl i will be sucsessfull or not. and im thinking of doing alot of test holes as well in known gold areas ive ordered some maps off ebay s i hope to make sese of them and try to find a logical semi remote area i aam looking for an area that is not accessable by car to give me the advantage over the rest unfit people haha thanks for reading.

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thanks for your advise the best advantage of the xterra is it runs of AAs so im roughly 30 hours qouted in the specs i assume engergiser lithum may add to this but only guessing. ill be turning over alot of ground in old areas of activity and to get some more chances and also be hot onto any areas of recent errosion. I understand about confined areas maybe ill research some more to try to asses the risk involved and how often these gases occur or what causes them to occur. i am moving out this weeekend and will be embarking around the new yrar so i will try to get to a compter a few weeks into the new year to report my luck.

Goldstalker really well said, i cant add to that!!!!!

HueyDuck....

You can catch the train to the Vic Golden Triangle from Melbourne
I dont know how far you have to go from the station to the gold patches though
good luck anyway

You can catch a train from Melbourne to smellarat and from there to Maryborough, tons of gold has been found in every direction from the train station within walking distance, but first off apply for the dole and dont forget to mention that your homless in the maryborough area and you would like to put your name down for public housing in Maryborough im guessing you might have some luck as the tamel tigers hav'nt been put there yet but might take awhile, then buy a tent, a shovel and a large pick and a mountain bike and stay in the caravan park or one of the state forest and buy equipment as the dole starts rolling in, do some research on where the shallow and rudely rich leads and diggings is then belt down a shaft to bottom, bring up the hard cemented Gravels and wave your coil over it doesnt matter what detector you are using could be a $25 ebay detector its still going to go right the f$$$ off if theres a slug being waved under it also remember to pan all the gravels if its showing fine gold.

gollstar wrote:You can catch a train from Melbourne to smellarat and from there to Maryborough, tons of gold has been found in every direction from the train station within walking distance, but first off apply for the dole and dont forget to mention that your homless in the maryborough area and you would like to put your name down for public housing in Maryborough im guessing you might have some luck as the tamel tigers hav'nt been put there yet but might take awhile, then buy a tent, a shovel and a large pick and a mountain bike and stay in the caravan park or one of the state forest and buy equipment as the dole starts rolling in, do some research on where the shallow and rudely rich leads and diggings is then belt down a shaft to bottom, bring up the hard cemented Gravels and wave your coil over it doesnt matter what detector you are using could be a $25 ebay detector its still going to go right the f$$$ off if theres a slug being waved under it also remember to pan all the gravels if its showing fine gold.

Hi Gollstar, I'm sure you meant "but first off apply for the dole so you can support yourself while you look for a new job" and "buy some nice job interview clothes as the dole starts rolling in". I'm sure Luke will find a new job in short order and I'm I know we all wish him well in that endevour. Being made redundant especially at this time of year would be distressing on anyone.
The dole is a safety net for the unemployed while they actively look for work, not an income while they enjoy thier hobby instead of working.

Good Jobs are hard to get with downward pressure on wages all the time, besides he has stated that he has worked since 18 and is now 22 so if he would like see something for his money why shouldnt he go on the dole and do some prospecting, 4 years of tax should be more than enough to cover atleast six months funny money while prospecting for gold you know, he has to eat and buy beer etc digging holes is hard work.

Ill be working for a few months at the start of this year and then when the weather cools down ill take a few months off to go prospecting and to relax abit maybe go to WA and petrols not cheap you know someones got to pay for it.

Ive worked ten years in metals industry and every year wages come down and jobs are harder to get due to so called skilled migration, im not going to work harder and longer for less so that you can keep bringing in the third world to sit on the dole and have free public housing and dole payments, big cash payments for having kids every year, and yet as young Australians if we want to go on the dole we get hammered this happend to me when i was on it just because they know im very capable of working they where telling me of jobs for $16 to $18 dollars an hour what a joke like i just got off a banana boat in the top end.

Anyway if the op wants to take a few months off to go prospecting i believe its his right to charge the dole for his upkeep if not apply for public housing as close to the gold as possible.

gollstar wrote:Good Jobs are hard to get with downward pressure on wages all the time, besides he has stated that he has worked since 18 and is now 22 so if he would like see something for his money why shouldnt he go on the dole and do some prospecting, 4 years of tax should be more than enough to cover atleast six months funny money while prospecting for gold you know, he has to eat and buy beer etc digging holes is hard work.

Ill be working for a few months at the start of this year and then when the weather cools down ill take a few months off to go prospecting and to relax abit maybe go to WA and petrols not cheap someones got to pay for it.

tax payers????

Well ill be paying for it really, just the money goes from my wages to the tax department then is returned back to me through the centre link at a later date, its not very hard process to work out, its just they get the money off me a little easyer than when i want it all back but now that you can fill in your fortnightly form over the internet you could do that from outback WA what a brilliant idea.

Hi Luke
Listen carefully to Goldstalker,his advise is golden!If making a living from detecting in Vic was easy we would all be there enjoying our hobby.If I work hard at it every day with my 4500 I can just get by and thats on a lucky week.I would highly recommend hiring a good detector and experience it for a couple of weeks first.
Steve

GoldstalkerGPX wrote:G'day Luke, No good to hear that you have been made redundant. To find enough gold to survive, assuming you are debt free and only need to buy food I'm hoping that you don't eat much.
I am wondering without a vehicle how you are going to be charging batteries?
Be sure you read carefully the many posts on here about the amount of gold actually being found and take note of the machines being used to find it.
Without being disrespectful IMHO with the 705 you would earn more money hitting the beaches and the parks but I hope you can prove me wrong.
Finding gold is hard work and can be a long time in between finds, just ask how often we all find the stuff.
Entering old mines may not be too profitable and remember that confined spaces lurk all sorts of nasty gasses.
There are also other users of the 705 within the forum and they may shed some light as to what your chances are in finding gold with you new machine.
Keep us posted.
Cheers

Excellent advice from Goldstalker.
Luke when iwas about your age i to was laided off (well sacked really , lazy bugger i was ) and though bugger it ill go on Bob Hawks surfing team (term for dole then).
Loved it for about 6 months sleeping in late siting around watching telly, but as my M8s were working i had no one to hang with and come pub time could only afford a couple of schonners.
So the novality wore off pretty quickly and i got a low paying job order picking and loved it and finnaly bagged a job in the trade i was trained in.
Me id look for a job ensure you had some coin coming in, the dole will not keep you in a reasonable lifestyle its designed for a hand up to stop people from starving and becoming homeless not a source of income.
If you treat this hobby as a source of income it will consume you chew you up and spit U out, the golden bi$%h shows no mercy.

Now Gollstar love the line

someones got to pay for it.

I might add a few things that someones got to pay for it. things like hospitals, schools, police, fire, roads,state parks,public transport, infustructure you know things you proberly whing about all the time Gollstar.


Regards

Freshy im glad you like it,

as for paying for the rest of those services they are mostly paid for by the states anyway.

If i do become unemployed at any stage and im intitled to recieve uneployment benifets i will apply for them regardless of what is said on here as ive paid tax since 18, and i would also like to point out for anyone that is interested im not lazy at all i can work as hard or harder than anyone on this forum without a doubt in the world,

BUT you see ive been sold out, hundereds of thousands of forign workers a year steal my wages out of my pocket, house prices are through the roof, in the mining industry its all forign workers, ALL I ASK IS THAT I GO TO WORK AND BE PAID A DECENT WAGE AND HOUSE PRICES ARE AFFORDABLE SO THAT I CAN HAVE MY OWN FAMILY, remember im not lazy and in no way whatsoever affraid of back breaking work i like it but if i choose not to be exploited and used thats for a reason, i would much rather spend my efforts digging for gold 10 hours a day with the chance of finding somthing decent than being a slave.

Have a nice day all.

Oh and ive also got a friend in the buliding trade plastering who has not been getting hardly any work for three months now and he's too proud to go on centre link saying that work will come etc but it does'nt, yeah well now the land lords going to kick them out if he doesnt come up with the cash and i think they have already hocked everything at cashies, So just wondering if you people would have any problems with him and his missas and young son to apply for government housing and also if they go tommorrow to apply will there be housing waiting for them, remembering that they have paid tax towards this all thier lives. or maybe because they are white and have paid tax maybe you all think they should live in the street or somthing and this happening while you bring thousands of un needed workers, even the dog RBA said they need to import more workers to lower wages they dont even try to hide what they are doing.

So i say well done.

hi gollstar
i'm in the same boat but i don't get the doll or anything like that. the onlything we get is my wifes wage and bugger all for the kids. the only thing i get is when i cash my gold in (which hasn't been happening the last few weeks). i had worked my butt off for what i have and where i have got to.... i know people that say they can't work becouse they have a bad back, the amount off times i see then lifting heavy things and that it p@ss me off. they have never worked a day in there life and the wine about centrelink making them work for the doll... i think it's good that peolpe who can take a break from the work force and go out and detect and everything but sometime they have to get back into the work force sometime again. but if you can find that big one that would be a big bonus
cheers
stoppsy

Thats the thing im not a bludger im working and i like to work but when i see house prices go up 20% per year, power, transport, food, double digit increase and my wage goes down and then i say somthing about it and everyone thinks im a lazy bugger, i would rather focus my efforts into bettering my life and to hell with everyone else. and if i see another young fellow who's been kicked in the bum ill be first to give my HONEST opinion and help, if i had of seen his post earlier we would already be hunting the big nuggets,

Next time ill just use the private message system as im sick of people getting all uppity all the time.

i think as long as your happy with what your doing don't worry about what other people think... people look at me funny when i say that i don't get any money off centrelink and that, and when i tell them that i'm in to detecting some people laugh and others ask a hell off a lot off questions about it.... for people to laugh they don't know what there missing and prob' don't even know what it is.... i would rather do detecting fulltime than get stuck in a shed working my butt off for some rich person that sits in a aircon office telling me what to do....
cheers
stoppsy

Thats right who cares what some people say it is your life and if you want to go and spend your time prospecting or traveling or whatever just do it, if they say oh but but you should be back in the factory working i say get f$$$ed its my life ive been pushed as far as i can be pushed and am now going to push back, or actually im going to just go look for gold and i too do want to do it for a living full time rather than work so that others can live the good life, it would only take a 30-35 ounces to cover what i get paid for working a year making the ceo's and managers rich and the baby boomers share holders not to mention the tax department and the endless other peoples or companys that make a fortune off the sweat of my brow, had enough its time to look after myself and my future.

good on ya goldstar i haope you hit that big one and then you'll be set... i just need to start finding it again so i can get some money up in the back pocket again...
cheers
stoppsy

why dont we get back on topic and stop hijacking the thread wish ya the best in your quest "Goldsavetheking"

Just reading all these threads I think the young blokes contributing display all the determination and optimism of our early diggers..some made it and some didn't..the main thing was they tried....they had more gold to go for and little equipment..we now have the best equipment and perhaps less gold....the early diggers had to stick it up the "norms" Society if you will, to give it a go....
I'm a fossil now but I have lost count of the number of mates who never ever stopped working through their lives to once do 'what they actually wanted to do and follow their dreams..why?..because they might miss out on building a certain nest egg for the "good years" ahead....most have not made it and left wealthy widows or kids....tragedy was no one ever encouraged them to give a go and follow a dream....
Go for it you young blokes..all you owe to yourself is to accept responsibility for your own consequences....I travel in a Van...do what I want to do when I want to do it... and where I want to do it....do I worry about how much I'm going to leave my kids....not like I used to.....just do it....good on you,particularly you Stoppsy.
You know whats written across the back of my Van..."Without going you get Nowhere"......Hoo Roo

well said larry

i wonder how goldsavetheking got on in his quest....

His quest for what "The Holy Grail"? The name says it all "gold save the king",yes,if he can constantly find it,he will be saved, but with very little knowledge and poorly equipped,if he don't lob onto gold and quick,can anyone tell me ,who's going to save the pauper? We've got,so called full time pros out there,struggling to make a living and on top of that.where cheering this young bloke onwards.If gold were that easy to find you'd have Tom,Dick,and even Harry's grandmother digging it out.Come on,lets get real here people.

Cheers kon61.

I am being real kon i just wanted to be polite.

Kon, he's 22 didn't you have dreams at 22...perhaps unfulfilled?....the 'system' will take hold of him soon enough and put him on the conveyor belt of life....and if he's real lucky and applies himself to buiding a Superannuation Nest Egg by working his whole fruitful and' best' years for the system,then by the time he's ugged and bugged and thinking about pursueing his long held dream of looking for gold..he may find out the 'system' has removed a whole chunk of his nest egg overnight by the world manipulation of the monetary system.and his health wont let him do it in either case....thats why there is monetary crisis in most of the European country's..they have no idea who'e up who and who's paying.......all 'GoldsavetheKing' Luke has to give is one life...his....let him live it and give a 22 year old encouragement I say and let him follow his dream real or imagined he'll no doubt find out soon enough and be a better person for it...they must always keep their little rat nests in private schools and intermarry correctly to keep it in the ranks of the bigger end of town......he's entitled to be dissillusioned by a 'system' that is always slanted towards this big end of town.....and when they get burned like in recent history the other half are totally dis-enfranchised....the day crapp is worth money poor people will be born without arseholes....I wont bore you with how much I lost virtually overnight, hundreds of thousands..and eight of my decent staff with families were without jobs... to the' system' I placed my trust in...however I have complete empathy with him on his current views....
Get real....we'll all be dead soon enough..for a very long time....dont you ever look at those old miners grave stones and wish they could tell you 'their' story' of their life...put a Dollar figure on what it costs to pursue your dream..then its no longer a dream..its an economic exercise IMO......Hoo Roo

I followed my dreams till I was 26, did what I wanted, when,how and with whom, fishing,shooting,you get the picture ,my family and friends said "you cant be doing what you are doing - settle down, raise a family - blah blah" then I met my wife now of 27yrs,at first it was scary about settling down etc,etc, but you know I wouldnt change a thing and now I can persue this exciting hobby and meet like minded people .... so for "GoldsavetheKing" ..... go for it dude and you never know unless you try ,,,I admire you for your spirit and IGNORE the people who will put you down

byronbinalong wrote:I followed my dreams till I was 26, did what I wanted, when,how and with whom, fishing,shooting,you get the picture ,my family and friends said "you cant be doing what you are doing - settle down, raise a family - blah blah" then I met my wife now of 27yrs,at first it was scary about settling down etc,etc, but you know I wouldnt change a thing and now I can persue this exciting hobby and meet like minded people .... so for "GoldsavetheKing" ..... go for it dude and you never know unless you try ,,,I admire you for your spirit and IGNORE the people who will put you down

Hi Goldsavetheking, are you finding enough gold and surviving?

Byronbinalong it is amzing how life deals out one's cards, like many peoples lives this sounds like a Matt Damon latest movie " The Adjustment Bureau " life scenarios.

cheers

I woudn't recommend anyone to go out on the goldfields with a coin machine and try to make a living from it.He has a top machine for finding dollars in the park or real gold down at the beach.At least if he needs a feed there is some support in the city,getting a hand out in tarnagollah will not be easy.Most of us have found a lot of gold when it was more plentifull but while we all enjoy our hobby i don't think too many are covering costs now. Rwork