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Post  Julzngemz Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:54 pm

Found these pieces in the larger rocks in pics, smashed up most of the rocks, this is what I had left after panning, any ideas on what type of metal?Need to know if this is gold? New at this prospecting stuff:) Findin13[img]Need to know if this is gold? New at this prospecting stuff:) Findin14[/img][img]Need to know if this is gold? New at this prospecting stuff:) Findin15[/img]


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Post  Guest Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:01 am

looks like gold to me


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Post  Julzngemz Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:04 am

Awesome, I thought gold was real bright yellow, this is very pale.
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Post  Guest Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:14 am

hard to say now that you have the big picture up could be pyrites...but the smaller pic looks like gold

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Post  TheH0ward Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:43 am

ok, no smart comments please cos this is a serious question..... Twisted Evil

Julzngemz, Do the pieces have clevage? As in, when broken, does the metal have a flat surface?

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Post  Julzngemz Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:55 am

some bits do
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Post  nero_design Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:17 am

Looks like Mica to me. Mica/Pyrites are often associated with gold/goldfields though Pyrites can show up anywhere. There might be some gold in there mixed in but it looks too 'silvery' to me. Gold is very heavy so by panning it, the gold should move much slower in the pan when you swirl the water at the end of the process.

If you can flake the material with very little effort then it's probably Mica. If it's hard but crumbles it may be Pyrites. To be certain, strike a small fragment with a hammer... Gold will flatten out due to its malleable properties. You'll know immediately if it's gold. Pyrites should crush and Mica should do the same.
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Post  Guest Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:46 am


Gday


Yes definately pyrites, very often silvery in colour with some being rather brassy (gold) looking, as nero suggests crushing it will give you the answer, pyrites will turn to dust where gold will just flatten out, however there may be some gold in those specimens but I doubt it, once you have crushed it up try panning it off and see what you get, and gold will leave a tail in the pan where the rest will float out of the pan.

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Post  sampler Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:21 am

Arsenopyrite..................

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Post  Nightjar Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:29 am

Julzngems,
Pyrites for sure, which as mentioned is mostly associated with gold, hence the common name, Fools Gold, arose because of this.
Full description here;
http://www.geology.neab.net/minerals/pyrite.htm

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Post  goldendream Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:39 am

If you have a metal detector put a small coil on and see if you get a signal.No signal ,not gold.

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Post  Guest Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:03 pm

fools gold! Very Happy but can be an indicator that your in gold country

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Post  U308 Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:19 pm

I'm with the sampler........Arsenopyrite (FeAsS). Wink

Edit: From Wikipedia.....Arsenopyrite also can be associated with significant amounts of gold. Consequently it serves as an indicator of gold bearing reefs. Many arsenopyrite gold ores are refractory, i.e. the gold is not easily liberated from the mineral matrix.

Arsenopyrite is found in high temperature hydrothermal veins, in pegmatites, and in areas of contact metamorphism or metasomatism.

Soluble in Nitric acid...Garlic odour when struck.!



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Post  Goldbait Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:54 pm

put it in sunlight, if it sparkles bright gold, then it's pyrite.

if it remains it's dull look, then possibly gold.
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Post  Julzngemz Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:56 pm

Thanks all, will hammer it and pan it:)
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Post  Nebuchadnezzar Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:10 pm

If you think it might be gold, just ditch it. It ain't. You will know gold the first time you see it without a shadow of a doubt.
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Post  chopppacalamari Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:19 am

I Concur, do you concur?
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Post  Julzngemz Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:31 pm

if that means agree, then yes:)
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Post  Billsymo Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:03 pm

it looks like pyrites but I have found pyrites and gold in the same rock, smash it up fine , mix it with water and pan it, its not hard to tell the difference.
pour some hydrochloric acid on it and if it is affected in any way it is pyrites, gold is unaffected by acid.
Hydrophlouric acid is better, but because it is lethal, it is banned.
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Post  Julzngemz Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:05 pm

crushed it, panned it, found a tiny slither of gold, only tiny but somthing hehe
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Post  stevo 444 Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:22 pm

Well thats a great result Julzngemz, at least you have a definite indicator of the good stuff !

Only found lead today meself ..tomorrows another day might do better

cheers stevo
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Post  Julzngemz Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:30 pm

yeah have fun Very Happy
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Post  Guest Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:36 pm

The fact that you broke the rock and attained such irregular shaped pieces would suggest if not gold with a lot of other elements than it will be pyrite, If it's pyrite it will smell like "Sulfur", If you have no idea what sulfur smells like, just imagine something with a high amount of
unpleasantness about it, Gold won't smell at all!
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