whats the penalty if you accidently detect in wrong place

If you have a miners right but accidently detect in a place you are not supposed to, l am not talking about private land but government or public land where you are not supposed to , for example if you accidently crossed over from a place you are allowed to dectect to a place you are not and a park ranger comes along,would he most likely just let you off with a warning if its the first time or would there be a fine , how much would the fine be , how serious is it, would you even have to go to court or something

Varies between States. But if you can convince the Ranger or person of authority that you did not know you had drifted into a no go zone and you will restore any disturbed ground to as it was before you started digging and the ranger is a normal thinking human being then you will likely get off with a warning of some kind otherwise fines can be up around 18000 dollars in extreme cases and you could have your tecta impounded.

adrian ss wrote:Varies between States. But if you can convince the Ranger or person of authority that you did not know you had drifted into a no go zone and you will restore any disturbed ground to as it was before you started digging and the ranger is a normal thinking human being then you will likely get off with a warning of some kind otherwise fines can be up around 18000 dollars in extreme cases and you could have your tecta impounded.

Oh my god $18,000:face: . but that would be an extreme case or repeat offender, what would the typical fine be in victoria for first offender if the ranger decided to fine ? if the ranger doesnt believe you accidently wondered on the land

Yeah well I guess if you had set up a hydraulic sluice and and were blasting away the hillside above the river then he might get a bit peed off aye!  

Do not know what a minimum fine might be but you might not see much change out of 300 bucks and maybe have yer tecta crushed.

$18,000 fine  Easy there Adrian.  Most likely you'll get told to pack it in & move to an area where you are allowed to detect in.
Besides what do you think Parks & wildlife rangers here in Vic are? bandana wearing bandito's, waiting behind every tree/bush track, ready to  hold up & rob the unwary prospector of their possessions?
In todays times, there really isn't any excuse to not know where you are going to prospect over. All one has to do is google Parks Victoria for all or any info regarding borders of National Parks & or Crown Land/State Forest.

Kon

https://www.vic.gov.au/avoid-prospect-penalty-when-fossicking-summer

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Yeah my 18,000 guess was a bit conservative . Big fines can apply. .......Remember to put those "Earth Rocks " back where you found them and Fill in those bloody holes !!

It suppose the end penalty all boils down to who you’ve annoyed.
Parks may issue a limp dicked warning but some psychopath might want to take your life as penalty.

You get my drift.
Yeah we all know the type.

They have an IQ of 1 but think it is 151; they are put in control over a area of country scrub and if you are spotted moving a grain of dirt they scream OMG!! OMG! you cannot do that here this is protected land OMG mate this is going to cost you big time ! You blokes never learn, you gunna do time over this infraction mate! Hoo boy yesserie your going down for moving that bit ov dirt without a permit. Ive been in charge here for years n years and you are the first bloke ever to move a bit of dirt here in years; No way can I let you get away with that mate, hell no yer going down. ...Just kidding, just kidding.

Nah, all the parks people I've met and bumped into are very reasonable people.
It's the old saying, treat them with some respect and they'll do like wise. We are all adults here ??
The same goes with the coppers? start being a smarty pants and they'll get their hackles up?
If you've made an honest mistake I think they'll cut you a little slack


cheers moredeep

Some of the parks Vic maps are poorly defined?
Having two green coloured fields makes it difficult to distinguish the areas allowed to detect.
Plus there are no blown up/enlarged maps with extra details outlining prohibited areas that I can find???
Acting dumb when in a restricted area might not be acting


cheers moredeep

moredeep wrote:Nah, all the parks people I've met and bumped into are very reasonable people.
It's the old saying, treat them with some respect and they'll do like wise. We are all adults here ??
The same goes with the coppers? start being a smarty pants and they'll get their hackles up?
If you've made an honest mistake I think they'll cut you a little slack  


cheers    moredeep

Since when is being a Smarty pants a criminal offense.
    If a person of authority increases a fine or punishment simply because somebody back-chatted them  (An overkill reaction) then that person is being a wuss and over reacts in an attempt to "Save Face" and as a result, is unlikely to gain much respect from his victim.

I will say that in all my years of scratching around for gold I have only encountered a ranger once. which was in easy country near Wedderburn....Possibly because their 4wds could not access the gorges and valleys that I got in to (walking, climbing, slipping n sliding access only). Those were the days.

The Ranger was a good bloke , we rescued a roo that had fallen down a shaft

In my experience it’s just easier to go with the grain when it comes to the authorities.
Those who discharge firearms, as warning to leave an area they have no rights over are the ones that you have to watch out for.

Yes had that happen to me once in the Wedderburn area not far from Hard Hill back in the 70s. Some dick took a potshot at me with what sounded like 22.
Fun times back then. Had another dh try to break into my wagon one night while I was sleeping inside. He got a surprise when I launched out the door with 222 in hand.  Lucky for him & me ole bettsy wasn't loaded. or maybe it was He Piled into his car and screamed off up the road.

There are some strange folk around the Vic goldfields.
Is there something in the local water ??

Back in the 59-60 era when we lived in Korong Vale just down the road from the Burn there was plenty of stuff in the water, well there was in the water that came out of our taps coz it was always brown. That water was so hard you could put it through a stamper and find gold in the sludge.