More of our Bush getting closed
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More of our Bush getting closed
We are losing more of our detecting ground by the Green.....................................So we all need to sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/victorian-government-we-want-our-bush-back
Cheers.
Mike.
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Last weeks edition is 77,000 hectares.
Now less gold and less areas for all, it is clearly not a good situation.
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Thanks soldier of fortune, yes the same thing for me couldn’t get through the 3rd step. As long as our signature counts.
Cheers.
Mike.
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Jen wrote:I got the first two steps done.
For the third step I just emailed some friends. Made no difference to the 3rd step
I think they want a donation.
my pockets aren’t very full.
But they got my signature that will have to do
Thanks Jen .
The email box just would not open ,but if the first 2 steps got my signature,then i am happy with that. I did get an email asking to either share on Whatsapp,twitter or facebook , but i am not on any of those.
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Learn the lessons of the past and let's keep this forum independent.
The PMAV has been used in the past with no advantage gained. Just think before being manipulated into stupid flag waving that will gain nothing.
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We need to get as much support as possible from all parties & not be seen to be backing any one persuasion over another.
If the party/s you openly back lose at election time how open to giving time to listen or helping with issues do you think the opposition would be?
P.s. I realise the petition isn't asking for political alignment or backing one party over another but I think these online petitions are largely becoming fairly redundant. Mass protests also just seem to put people (general public) off supporting a cause rather than jumping on the bandwagon.
The only way forward seems to be with sensible, level headed submissions & representative/association discussion with relevant departments but unfortunately that can take years to see results.
Not sure what the short term answer is apart from doing the right thing when out in the bush & trying to impress that on others + keeping an eye out for these changes as they are mooted to ensure timely, measured responses to them.
Too many people react after it's already too late.
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Just went back to the link and the count is still rising, as it’s now above 11,000 And still rising. Keep up the good work all. To all who are signing.
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Mike.
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If they give some exemptions well and good, job done ,rally after rally not in vain????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
cheers moredeep
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Has the PMAV got any members sitting in parliament ?
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Prospectors are a tiny part of the population and their bleating's will remain unheard. Linking us with bow hunters and trailbike riders as happened with BUGU was just dumb, and made us look like a bunch of rednecks. PMAV and BUGU aligned with the opposition and actually campaigned against the government when all astute pundits predicted that the government would retain power. After retaining power, the PMAV had to go to the government saying; "Err, sorry that we lobbied against you, but could you see your way clear to give us some consideration?" Yeah, right!!!!
There are smarter ways to achieve success, and we should look to successful examples rather than this dumb headbutting which will achieve the same as in the past.
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One did get a sense that they had made up their minds well before hand.
But as Bill stated all is not lost, they might exempt some area from prospecting.
Keep signing petitions ,do what you have to do, if it gets just ONE politician to alter their decision well and good.
I suppose it's the old saying Reg, better to die on your feet than on your knees
cheers moredeep
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Time for a rethink using positive examples of other movements as an inspiration to achieve a positive outcome.
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cheers moredeep
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Reg Wilson wrote:Axtyr, that was then, when there were thousands of prospectors on all the goldfields, not now when we are just a very small minority that the average Joe cares and knows little of. Not comparable, plus obviously you were not there. It was a defeat as well.
I thought that some positives were installed after the stockade rebellion.
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cheers Bill.
Regards moredeep
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Wombat wrote:GOOD BYE EVERYONE I may see some of you out in the bush some day.
wombat
You have a good heart and have done a lot for the cause which is much appreciated by all .
Thanks Wombat . We will miss your input.
Good luck to you and never give in.
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To think the problems of COVID & lockdowns aren't enough, for the last time I ask of you both, please give it a rest, let it go.
Kon
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I'm from nsw, but have been gold prospecting for more than a decade
It's sad to see this happen where we agree and disagree with each other in regards to these government decisions to ban gold prospecting a little bit at a time until it is all gone.
I think that the green groups have gained a lot and have influenced the government to close up our rights in the forests where we prospect.
Has anyone ever thought about the Victorian Minerals council could be behind all this?
The Victorian and the Nsw Mineral councils have always regarded us little prospectors as standing in their way and that the minerals belong to them, so I'm wondering that BUGU and the PMAV have been left in fighting the wrong direction all along to the demise of us losing our rights and our forests?
What is the PMAV going to do in regards to these parcels of forests slipping away?
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Here is the latest petition for saving our Bush
http://chng.it/Pr52xMYNkT
500 + so far, come on let’s get together and sign up for all those small businesses and towns that it will affect not only the Gold ground we will be losing.
Cheers.
Mike.
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I think my understanding of the Mirerals Council of Australia has more authority in how things have panned out than we realise, behind closed doors I think the outcome has been to the detrimental for us lowly gold prospecting community Australia wide.
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One things for certain, it will always be the relevant governing authorities in charge of such matters, that just about always have the upper hand when it comes to decision making. But in saying that, if you or anyone else on here has a far more better way of getting our message through to the point where useful action is taken in way of opening up more ground for the prospector/detectorist (like were said before) then we're all ears, lets hear it.
Kon.
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