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Post  Guest Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:58 pm

Couple months ago I tried a few things with zed and come up with something a little different that's worth a try. Zed ran much more stable but youre able to get pretty much flat out sensitivity from these settings.
On your main volume, on page 1 reduce this to 1.
Scroll to page two and increase volume limit to 20.
Set threshold at 33. (I find that perfect)
Set threshold pitch to to how you like it. Mines 63
Lowering main volume takes most of the crap noise away and you should have a stable threshold with sensitivity upwards to 20.
The target response comes through softer but no probs.
From what I've seen there's no loss of depth at all. Works well with a booster system. Trial it over a target at depth.

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Post  slimpickens Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:57 am

Thanks for that Jason, will give it a go. For as much as we say we can tolerate the squealing it does become a pain in the ass after a few hours, and I'm pretty sure that the squeling is masking some faint signals, more by fatigue than anything else. Cheers, Harry.
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Post  Nightjar Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:31 am

Morning Jase,
Don't own a "Z" but is this on the same principal that some run their GPX?
Think it was Gemini who showed me how he ran his threshold on "0", tried it once but found it unnerving the complete silence and felt sure faint signals would be missed.





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Post  Guest Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:55 am

No worries Harry, its def worth to give it a go. I've picked up gold I originally missed with zed so it seems to be effective.
Hey peter how ya going, um nah its not running a no threshold but with a very stable and constant threshold in fact. I've got a video of it but don't think i can upload it, I'll have a look see if I can work it out.

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Post  TutC Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:28 pm

Hi Jason,
Do you ever run in Normal ground type or do you stick to Difficult with these settings.
I find that up here in the Pilbara, Normal's a tad noisy for me.
I'll give these settings a go next time I'm out swingin', if only this rain would ease up a bit.
Set the harness up by your directions. Absolutely brilliant, can swing all day
Cheers Mate Very Happy
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Post  peterinaust Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:59 pm

Thanks Jason, for the tip.  I also have your harness set up. Will try these settings, but may not get out at all this year now, after the wife breaking her arm. Crying or Very sad

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Post  Guest Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:40 pm

peterinaust wrote:Thanks Jason, for the tip.  I also have your harness set up. Will try these settings, but may not get out at all this year now, after the wife breaking her arm. Crying or Very sad
No worries mate, if your using a module only and there's a bit of wind about it is a little hard to hear so you can either increase main volume to say 3 and its still quite effective. Or leave main volume on 1 and use headsets. But as I mentioned, booster system is very good with this combo. Sorry to hear bout the missus mate.

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Post  Guest Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:50 pm

TutC wrote:Hi Jason,
Do you ever run in Normal ground type or do you stick to Difficult with these settings.
I find that up here in the Pilbara, Normal's a tad noisy for me.
I'll give these settings a go next time I'm out swingin', if only this rain would ease up a bit.
Set the harness up by your directions. Absolutely brilliant, can swing all day
Cheers Mate Very Happy
Gday mate good to see the harness set up works well for you too. For the most I run ground type in difficult but there are places in the eastern and northern goldfields where I can use normal GT at times with gold mode either in hy or gen, which yields more gold for me. In Nullagine for instance you can run normal in all the creek systems and with sensitivity maxed out but yet the 7 is still very stable. Move out of the creeks and onto the flats and slopes of hills you will find you have to go into difficult to counter the ground. So wherever you are in the Pilbara at least try normal in the creeks to see if you can use that ground type there.

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Post  TutC Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:34 pm

Cheers Jason, Will try Normal/HY,General in the creeks up here and see how I go.
Weather's clearing up here now, so should get out for a swing on Monday. Very Happy
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Post  alchemist Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:31 am

Thanks for the tip Jase, any tips from a person with your experience is definitely worth a go.

There's something I've found that works for me with respect to running in Normal.
If your buzzing along nicely in HY or Gen with Normal and then things start getting too erratic, before I consider flipping to Difficult, I will first try Extra Deep, keeping Normal GB with smoothing OFF and gain above 18.

This works best where the gold is a quarter gram or more.
I've been able to recover quite a bit from paleosol type areas where even Difficult struggled, but Extra Deep/Normal was getting me chunky bits HY/ Diff wouldn't even touch.

Not for everywhere, especially not shallow areas with predominantly smaller stuff, but keep it in mind to give it a try before choosing to switch down sensitivity.
In reality we should be covering productive areas with all settings, but time is of the essence, along those lines I've found Extra Deep/Normal good for quickly scanning areas for outliers, I can swing a lot faster without too much noisy feedback.

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Post  TutC Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:40 am

Hi Jason,
Went out on Monday and tried your settings. What a difference it made.
Took a bit of getting used to on some areas with the ground noise, but you definitely know when you swing over gold.
The signal is so enhanced.
At the beginning I was digging a lot of ground noise signals and was changing back to Difficult fairly often.
Towards the end of the session I was reading these signals a lot better and kept the 7000 in High Yield / Normal, only going to
High Yield / Difficult to compare the response.
Only picked up half a dozen small bits to 4.5 gm. but this was on really thrashed ground that every man and his dog had been over.
I reckon you're onto a winner with these settings Jase and I know personally I will be using them more often from now on.
It's really opened my eyes to having confidence in my detector and trying to get the best out of it by running it hot.
You've just got to get out of that nice easy comfort zone and try something different.
Thanks a heap mate, I know I am going to get lots more gold with your settings. Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  Guest Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:41 pm

Great to hear it worked well for you tutc. Yeah it seems to smooth the zed out a bit and gets rid of a lot of unwanted noise.

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Post  BigEasy1972 Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:41 pm

Jason,

I'm curious to see the harness setup mentioned in these posts. Do you have a YouTube clip?

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Post  Guest Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:16 pm

This is the video where Jason show the setup of the harness for the GPZ7000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYLhEtoYiuo

cheers dave

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