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Post  Jerryx4 on Fri May 10, 2013 2:47 pm

Hey guys,
Just found this vid...
As I'm researching a petrol pump for my 6inch sluice I'm figuring out flow rates.

Is this kind of flow faaaarrr too much?

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Post  someday on Fri May 10, 2013 5:01 pm

If sluicing was as difficult and time consuming as this guy makes out I'd go back to fishing an betting on the horses affraid

as for the water flow, it does look a tad on the strong side for 6mm classification, all over the place too!
Muddy water always look on the fast side as the water depth increases and the material slows down?
Proof in the pudding will always be your tailings.. No gold in tailings = bounce cheers or wrong spot Sad Laughing
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Post  CrazyPete on Fri May 10, 2013 7:34 pm

5 seconds of watching and Yep it's way too much flow, even for a 1st run.

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Post  Jerryx4 on Tue May 14, 2013 8:31 am

Kooll,
Thought so..
I was testing both my water pumps on my sluice at the same time over the weekend and it was about perfect, now to get a petrol pump that provides the right flow.
Either way another of my "Secret spots" turned up not even a speck....again Sad
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Post  CrazyPete on Tue May 14, 2013 7:26 pm

Jerryx4 wrote:Kooll,
Thought so..
I was testing both my water pumps on my sluice at the same time over the weekend and it was about perfect, now to get a petrol pump that provides the right flow.
Either way another of my "Secret spots" turned up not even a speck....again Sad

From one Jerry to another keep at it mate, you will find a good secret spot soon Wink
Sometimes those spots are right under our noses and not secret at all Very Happy

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Post  Jerryx4 on Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 am

Jerrycanjoe wrote:
Jerryx4 wrote:Kooll,
Thought so..
I was testing both my water pumps on my sluice at the same time over the weekend and it was about perfect, now to get a petrol pump that provides the right flow.
Either way another of my "Secret spots" turned up not even a speck....again Sad

From one Jerry to another keep at it mate, you will find a good secret spot soon Wink
Sometimes those spots are right under our noses and not secret at all Very Happy
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lol true, been a year so far & a few visits at 10 different spots all over the place with all my gold from one which totals about a finger pinch worth of dust!

Now winters coming at least I can head out early & setup at a stream & just dig everything I see all day, so long as the shovel arm holds up lol
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Post  Jerryx4 on Thu May 16, 2013 11:05 am

This is the pump i'm eyeing up
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380582023597?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Post  CostasDee on Thu May 16, 2013 12:07 pm

Not sure if I'm contributing correctly to this topic, but I had a look at that pump Jerryx4 and I noticed that it had a 2-stroke motor. Personally with the history I've had with 2-stroke motors, I'd pay whatever extra it cost and get a 4-stroke, but that's only from my personal history.
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Post  someday on Thu May 16, 2013 1:04 pm

Theres a few guys using the 2 bangers with good success! 9000 Lt per hour would be the biggest concern,
reckon you'd be running it near on flat out "not a good thing".

Jerry you really need to find some decent ground before going down that road, shoveling all day for no returns
you'll get pretty disgruntled pretty quick Sad

So many creeks were diverted by the old timers, they now look like the real deal but there not!?!?!?
If your chasing inside bends for color, try looking for spots where the water would go over higher ground/mound around the bend when in flood.
The downstream side of the high ground will always show some good color providing the gold is there, if you're not getting anything, Move!
Works for me anyway Shocked Very Happy

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Post  Jerryx4 on Thu May 16, 2013 4:58 pm

Cheers for that Smile
Yeah I'm trying to keep patient. Just seems all my leads and 'here be goldz' turns to mush.
I don't want to spend too much on a pump & alone carrying sluice plus 26kg pump (vs the little 2 stroke 6-12kg) into the bush would be a nightmare especially some of the stupid treks I take into hard spots.
MMM never thought of it having to run at full tit, much better with a 4stroke in that case. Weight and cost suddenly increased Sad
Maybe better just properly mounting my 2 electric pumps & using the powerpack rather than a gas pump.
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Post  someday on Thu May 16, 2013 5:41 pm

I didn't mean for you to jump ship to quickly affraid Laughing
The problems start when you need to pump 20 + meters and uphill.
I'm guessing a 9" sluice/HB close to the water, the pump would be fine?
Not much difference to the Honda WX10 as far as specs go and much cheaper Q21
I think diggerdude recently bought a 2 banger?
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Post  CrazyPete on Thu May 16, 2013 7:08 pm

Here's a thought Jerry Very Happy
Have you considered adapting your sluice into a recirc system ?
you could just use a 9000lt 12v bilge pump and that would be fine.
That way if your having trubs locating a gold bearing creek you could
just set that combo up on old known alluvial mullock piles and casually
put the dirt through, easy peazy and some piles are full of fine gold.

Of course you would still need to test pan a mullock pile prior to
setup and shoveling a fair amount through Very Happy
That way the gold has already been dug up for you
and is just waiting there for you cheers

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Post  Jerryx4 on Fri May 17, 2013 9:19 am

Well the current pumps I have are 2000GPH & 800GPH
I've just found this...... http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350794589712&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en which is 3700GPH/14000LPH which should be heaps, hopefully won't drain the jumper pack too fast.
I have been using my sluice at home in a big tub as a recirculating unit but its designed to be put just in the water and have the pump hanging off the side. Also can take the Hopper off and use in the river flow with the attachment.
As you said if needing it way up the bank this pumps not gunna work but as its a little 6in sluice and needs classifying to 1/8ths its easier to do that in buckets then take to the sluice.

This is it with standard pump & flow testing



It's just not enough water as it clogs up all the time in the corners & it looks like the flow isn't even but its because when it clogs at one corner it affects the flow the entire way down.


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Post  someday on Fri May 17, 2013 10:45 am

I remember a time when I could remember but I can't remember when!
Jerry the little 2 banger would be all you need plus some for that size sluice.
Mate DON'T buy that bilge pump, their outputs aren't what they list and the seals are duds affraid
They sell these pumps for boats, the pricks should be sued for selling life threatening junk Mad
If you still want to go with the bilge pump Idea buy a Rule, 5 times the price but they won't let you down!

What's that old saying?

P.s. watch out for the current draw on the big bilge pumps, 15 > 20+ amps!!
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Post  Jerryx4 on Fri May 17, 2013 4:27 pm

cheers!
Yea ***** 16A! that would drain the jumper in less than an hour I reckon.
Think I might rig 2 flow inputs to the top box & make a bracket for the two pumps to strap & work together.
That will be ok for home (apartment) or really remote spots where carrying less weight is key.
I'll save sum $$ & get the wee 2 banger for longer operations into easy territory if not just for the name...2 banger Wink
9000lph is a good step on the current flow and the ability to pipe a few metres up the bank will be handy.

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