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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:46 pm

OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Skullandtooth

Hope this works, found a very old grave in a collapsed bank on the weekend.

If pics dont work out i will try again.

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Post  Harb on Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:49 pm

wow thats kind of wierd....... who do you think it is Laughing
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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:52 pm

Its a skull very old, see the tooth, there is only one left the others may have been gold OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Icon_eek

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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:53 pm

OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Abone

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Post  deutran on Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:59 pm

You mean it had gold teeth! OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Icon_lol
Those are a couple of awesome photos,well done.
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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:02 am

are there Chinese diggings nearby?

If a Chinese miner died and had no immeadiate family, often he was burried where he fell. Many times not deap either.
Have unearthed two at Ophir over the years

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:10 am

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Last edited by NSEW on Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:10 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : same pic soz)

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:22 am

OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Tooth

Sozz posted same pic twice, this should be a close up of tooth,

I have a few other pics when i download them.

R.I.P old timer.

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Post  nero_design on Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:32 am

If the tooth is worn down considerably at the contact surface, you may consider the possibility that it was an Aboriginal. Their worn teeth show the effects of stone-ground foods. I can't tell from your photographs. The body looks to have broken apart and the sediments around the bones suggest old wash. Possibly Chinese (as suggested above) or possibly a fossicker in a collapsed tunnel. Those holes under the gravel wash were very prone to collapse.

Interesting find! And creepy too!

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:22 am

OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Grave

A pic of grave looking from top of gully, i have highlighted the visible remains.

Not sure how this will turn out.

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Post  MS on Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:16 pm

Hi Mick
Very interesting and glad you found it and not me.
I agree it's an old grave and most likely Aboriginal but would suggest you report the find to the police , it's good you put this up for all to see but remember this is a public forum and it's better for you to do the above first as I'm sure you will be contacted sooner than later .
I would expect there would be a few prospectors out there who have come across similar and I have heard stories land holders keep any finds like that quiet for obvious reasons.
Just my too bobs worth and your call.
Keep up the good posts
Cheers Mark
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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:20 pm

Gday Mick


I am with Mark on this one and think it important that you let the police know asap, from the photos and comments by other members I would tend to think myself that it was most likely an old time miner, maybe chinese maybe not, I think that because it looks more likely due to the timber and gravel wash about the body, maybe the poor bugger might have been buried alive.

I dont know if its aboriginal tradition Australia wide but I do know the aboriginals here in WA who populated the Perth and Swan river areas used to bury their dead on their backs with one knee raised, I know this as when I was a kid we watched some people, from the museum possibly, carefully uncovering aboriginal remains that were found when some bushland along the Swan river was being prepared for a building site.

The photos you have appear to me as if the person is lying face down, although of course I cant be certain, if this is the case it would seem consistant with someone being pushed face down when the load of dirt above them collapsed while they were working, like someone digging away in a tunnel as earlier suggested.

Anyway it would be of interest to someone thats for sure, and I would let them know as soon as, because more heavy rain may make it harder to recover and some valuable evidence may be lost.


Thanks for sharing that with us.


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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:43 pm

I tend not to think aboriginal. Aboriginals for the most part had communial burial grounds. Although it does happen, it's quite rare to find one solitary grave

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Post  Tributer on Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:20 pm

Mick, good find. Did you pick up any signals on the grave site? If there are nails metal etc at least you would know its not aboriginal. (im not saying you should dig any signal out).

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Post  Curley on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:31 pm

Thats very interesting Mick. It makes you wonder how many we walk over in the bush without knowing eh?
You say that one picture was taken "A pic of grave looking from top of gully". It looks as if you took the photo while you were standing on the floor of the gully, looking across at it. Is it roughly 6 foot deep?
What state of Aust did you find it?
Thanks for sharing it. Facinating!
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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:26 pm

Hi,

Tributer, out of respect i did`t wave the wond over the remains.

Curley, the pic was taken from the other bank of gully, ZOOMED in. As i said in first post the bank has fallen away from exsiting ground level. original ground level to top of remains would be about 1.2 M, gully would be about 3.5 m deep.

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Post  Curley on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:32 am

Hey Mick what state are you in? NSW or Vic.
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Post  Greg on Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:13 pm

good day All.
I think I would report to the police as they could be 1 of thousands of people who go missing each year, & I would wave the wand over him incase he has a horde of gold in a bag near him.
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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:25 pm

Another possibilty could be that it was a old timer who was tunnelling into a bank and it colapsed burying him/her alive or caught in a hole when the gully flashed flooded.
Have heard of this before and if they were a lone prospector quite possiable.
But regardless of how they came to be there a very interesting find, as for the cops being informed your call.
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Post  dave1963 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:51 pm

What are the cops going to do.
cheers Dave
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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:13 pm

dave1963 wrote:What are the cops going to do.
cheers Dave
Close off the entire area with lots of pretty blue and white tape. Spend thousands of dollars of tax payers money..man hours, DNA tests etc.. inform media because it's been a slow week and nothing else to report.
Three months later release another statement to the media saying remains are of a chinese male aged between 19 and 30 years old and have been there for aproximately 150 years...no signs of foul play.
Greenies get in on it saying it's a historical site yada yada yada... Peter Garrett stick his ugly skeleton resembling cranium in trying to save face after the home insulation scandal, area now closed to detecting, bush walking, 4wheel driving, harpooning of whales etc..etc....

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:02 am

Hey Mick what state are you in? NSW or Vic.
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Hi, Curley

I`m in a better state than them bones & i still have more than one tooth OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Icon_cyclops

I`m not gonna say where the remains are till the COPS come, but i`m into politics now!!!! I forgot.

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:16 am

Curley wrote:Hey Mick what state are you in? NSW or Vic.
Cheers
Curley

Testing how to post a quote.

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Post  kon61 on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:16 pm

Hi NSEW;

That is some amazing find,obviously with its own mysterious background,as to how he got there.
Anyhow,I've always said to my self,as i get older, I hope to have at least one original tooth left,you know,just to be able to grab that piece of steak before I pass away.


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Post  Curley on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:47 pm

How did you go with this one North, South, East and West?
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Post  Guest on Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:47 am

Curley wrote:How did you go with this one North, South, East and West?
Curley

Still no COPS yet Curly, might have to watch if i`m being tailed later today, i havent been back since.

I got a nice 1.6 GRAMMER not far from HIM, HER.

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Post  Billsymo on Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:54 pm

Guest wrote:OLD GRAVE IN GULLY Skullandtooth

Hope this works, found a very old grave in a collapsed bank on the weekend.

If pics dont work out i will try again.

NSEW

Mick
have a look in his pockets for ID
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Post  Guest on Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:41 pm

what happend to the pic on this thread has it been deleted as i can not bring it up??

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