Prospectors or simply Gold thieves

After reading comments by other members on this forum, one gets the idea that most people go out detecting thinking that they have gods right into what they find, some may have but quite a few do not and r nothing more than gold thieves..with the price of gold this situation can only get worst.

Yep I admit I have been known to be in the wrong place however I do have a heap of 20a's.

If a few members started writing to the member for mines and minerals --u never know Mr Moore may listen to us. (Those in WA)

If u dont have the time to write to air your concerns then put ya concerns on here and I will raise our concerns with the minister next time I see him.

One point I am trying to get changed is the 3 month term on a 20a form --change to 6 months

Point two--More ground to be zoned Common--enabling tourists and newby's to detect at their hearts content.

If we dont make a stand and try to get change we will all be sitting at home with very expensive prospecting gear.

Just my thoughts..

Regards
Oneday69

another aspect of all this to think about
is talking about what illegalities you would consider it allowable to commit.
Don't think that there are only prospectors and detectorists reading these forums.
It is entirely up to us to set the example if we want cooperation from any (usually profoundly uninformed), governmental authorities.

oneday69 wrote:
If u dont have the time to write to air your concerns then put ya concerns on here and I will raise our concerns with the minister next time I see him.

One point I am trying to get changed is the 3 month term on a 20a form --change to 6 months

Point two--More ground to be zoned Common--enabling tourists and newby's to detect at their hearts content.

If we dont make a stand and try to get change we will all be sitting at home with very expensive prospecting gear.

Just my thoughts..

Regards
Oneday69

G'day Oneday69

You have my vote to add when next talking the minister. I think it is an excellent idea to have the 20a run for 6 months, which covers the detecting season in WA for most of us. Its good to be able to get 20a permits but you run out of time with it how it is and need to reaply for another 3 weeks before the current one runs out.

Heck at only $25 for the current 3 month one, I would venture to say that I would pay $50 for a 6 month one and call it equally good value.

cheers dave

Flakmagnet wrote:another aspect of all this to think about
is talking about what illegalities you would consider it allowable to commit.
Don't think that there are only prospectors and detectorists reading these forums.
It is entirely up to us to set the example if we want cooperation from any (usually profoundly uninformed), governmental authorities.

OOh the voice of reason!! Flack you're welcome around my camp fire any time !!

Flakmagnet wrote:another aspect of all this to think about
is talking about what illegalities you would consider it allowable to commit.
Don't think that there are only prospectors and detectorists reading these forums.
It is entirely up to us to set the example if we want cooperation from any (usually profoundly uninformed), governmental authorities.

How true is that

I wish we could gather some strength in Queensland, and try to gain access to a small part of state forest. 2klmx1klm square.
It has no historical value, It has no top soil for crops, very little to no water.It has no old growth trees, no endangered species, its a barron wasteland. But it has enough small gold to tripple the economy of Warwick and surrounding towns, with the revenue raised from prospectors.
Prospectors would flock there as its only 3 hrs from Brisbane.
If anyone knows where to start i will be right behind you...

Nice post thanks for all...

Scary to say the least, Join the PMAV in Vic and your solely bound to their code? Better than good cause, but you can't escape the code of ethics, which is so limited and you've signed your name to it ! Get caught doing something wrong or in the wrong place?????? Which goes for most of Vic, National parks, Heritage listed, re vegetation programs, waste lands, swamp lands, That pool of water that my have a species that we haven't named yet????

Think about the poor buggers in the NT, new legislation has all but ended things up there.

Not right at all! Like I said in a different post, Vic is supposedly coming out with a new set of rules to help the small time miner/Prospector in Feb next year. Here's hopping and maybe NT Government will follow suit!...

Yes, 6 months 20A permits are a great idea. Also inlocking more land for tourists to basj around on.
How about tightening up the rules on giant mining corps locking up enormous amounts of land under their sdo called "mining titles" and just sitting on them for numerous years without doing even the slightest amount of work on them. This is so unfair for the everyday person just wanting to get out there for a swing.

xenon wrote:Yes, 6 months 20A permits are a great idea. Also inlocking more land for tourists to basj around on.
How about tightening up the rules on giant mining corps locking up enormous amounts of land under their sdo called "mining titles" and just sitting on them for numerous years without doing even the slightest amount of work on them. This is so unfair for the everyday person just wanting to get out there for a swing.

Not 100% sure, but going through the price list with all the do's and dont's I can see a lot of ground reopening in the very near future!
The 99 year thing is over, now from what I understand It's a annual expenditure on that given piece of ground, the ground has to pay back, not like 10 odd years ago, where there accountant's fee could justify an annual expenditure. No proof of produce, No more land. How that stacks up in Court, is a different law altogether>?
You were supposed to say. "How that stacks up in Court, is a different law altogether>?

Flying High> eat your heart out!

I cant wait to get over to WA to do some detecting. Working flogged ground dosent worry me at all as I do it every weekend in NSW.
What does worry me is spending a couple of hundred bucks in a handfull of 20a`s if my wife and I are going to get grief from some lease owner,who thinks every nugget in the WA dirt is rightfully his.
I agree with the extension of 20a`s to 6 months and limiting small time leaseholders to a maximum of say 3 leases.
Also I would like to see some prospecting reserves opened up to the general public to give back some value for the cost of a WA miners right.