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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:27 am

another sad passing off a friend, it's getting to that slip slop slap weather again. if you note that there is something different about a mole or any lump that shouldn't be there, it's worth just going to your G.P to get them checked. another friend off mine has just passed from cancer. he didn't say that there was any problems. but what seemed to be a small matter turned bad. the time things got a bit to much to handel he thought he had better go to the doc's but it was way to late. it wasn't long after he found out what was happening he went down hill very fast. just make sure if you need to do your check ups get them done, eveyones the same it don't matter what you have to get checked we all have to do it sooner or later,
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Post  everhopeful on Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:17 pm

Sorry to hear about your friend stoppsy, but that is damm good advice you have given everyone not just those of us who go detecting..Please everyone pay attention to stoppsy message and slip, slop, slap.
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:25 pm

Be careful of conventional money based treatment do your due diligence.

My friend is an industrial chemist. he got a skin cancer melanoma on his leg. he did not cut it because he was worried that the cells would get into his blood matrix and spread. he used some medical salve after research. It turned it into like a ball and it expelled from his body like an eyeball being expelled. he is now cancer free.
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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:24 pm

birdman what type of medical cream was it and how did it expel itself ie through the skin or via waste products

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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:34 pm

the cancer is like encapsulated in like skin.... all the salve did was build a barrier that was a thicker skin encapsulating the cancer and pushed it out like a splinter when it dangled outside of the body attached to the skin he cut it off.... the skin barrier material was like white the cancer black....

he imported the salve from europe.... but he is a chemist so i guess he understood more than me....
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:40 pm

He used black salve i rang his son that is what he told me. I would need to look a the chemical formula.... it maybe tetra acetic acid i am not sure Rolling Eyes
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:43 pm

Remember a cancer cell is transplantable like a wart. If they botch the cutting out those cells will move around the blood and seed like weeds in a garden. The body contains the cancer by building a wall around it.... a surgeon can break down that wall and let the cancer weeds run riot through the blood stream ..... cancer = a contained walled in weed bed in your garden..... the gardner the surgeon can spread it by not cutting all of it out in one go..... one loose cell in the blood stream will stop somewhere else and begin growing in another place.......
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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:55 pm

it sounds really interesting stuff this BLACK Salve is it unique to one country over there or common knowledge. I have never heard of such a thing before. I have heard of poultices.

ask him next time you see him if it has any other name. I will try and do some research my end as well.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:03 pm

that would be good birdman if you could find out more...
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:17 pm

You can register witth the cancrum international medical journal and pay their fees. They give all the journal stuff that you need to understand, they bank at balse....but if you can find out about tetra acetic and dexamethsone then i will be happy as I have a cancer that i am watching also but i am going to inject with vinegar shortly.

remember a doctor is a money transaction that has a financial interest before your health
The cure for cancer maybe edta and tetra acetic acid dexamethasone..... until i test it on myself i cannot gaurantee it......
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:36 pm

never underestimate vinegar. Your tonsils secrete acetic acid/ vinegar FACT.....it is a chiral chemical as well..... no wonder so many children have their first lines of defense removed at a young age..... who benefits from this?

Tonsilar secretions may be the cure for cancer. Who would have thought an acidic human defence would cure stuff......lets bankrupt the corrupt oncologists....
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Post  harryopal on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:28 pm

I guess the big C word is scary and each person has to make their own decision. We presently have a trial of this corrupt `doctor' who has been charging up to $40,000 a `treatment' which evidently consists of injecting rather toxic chemicals that successfully kills most of his patients. Scary stuff.
As for skin cancer. Many years ago there used to be a guy on the Gold Coast who made a living spraying sun bathers with mutton bird oil. I recall an interview with him where he advised people to frequently dab any sunspots with tea or vinegar or perhaps both. Since then I have had many skin spots on my forearms, in particular, and ears and I began dabbing them with vinegar. After a while they would dry up and scratch off. I suspect had I gone to the doctor they would have had great fun burning holes in my skin and charging appropriately.
Now, the matter may be that we each have different pigmentation and many react differently so I can't guarantee this for everyone. On the other hand it is inexpensive and benign. Unless I suppose you leave a dangerous melanoma too long. As I say, these are the kind of things each person has to deal with and decide for themselves.
As for myself, I am one of those dreadful Australians who has always sunbathed, never slip slop slapped. I am a month under 72. Touch wood (he vigorously raps his skull) so far so good and I was out today for a sunbathe before having a dip.

Yours tropically, Harry

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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:40 pm

Vinegar also cures jelly fish stings also..... it is so closely related to mouth and throat tonsils........ maybe we should all be embracing naturaly human but amplified natural defences as a cure..... but i guess this would put csl out of business.....

My mother died in 1992 of cancer and she had every check up imaginable..... she wanted tests after test for her insurance money.... she died and her treatment cost 250 000 dollars..... she did gene splicing and everything.....my mother was a hypochondriac a doctors best customer......in the end she said i do not trust these doctors.....i stressed out to much about my health and then she died.....it is interesting how when you watch such a thing you look at life in a more realistic way.....as a young man at 21 listeniong to your mothers swan song.


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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:45 pm

Hi Guys, I have been using "DUOFILM SOLUTION" it's a wart treatment and as Birdman said that the cancer cells develop on top of the skin before moving to new areas. This Wart treatment smothers the wart cells and over time will just peel away, it might do the same for a cancer cell because after all it looks like a wart. I'd like to know if anyone else has used this "DUOFILM SOLUION" ?
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Post  Birdman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:08 pm

i feel for all the victims but we cannot beat them they are too strong, cancrum banks in balse in switzerland the cancrum people. All we can do is unite at a grass roots level and help each other.....
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Post  hoolahoopa on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:37 pm

this reminds me a bit about colloidal silver. the big companies say it has no benefits yet now i see they are selling bandaids with silver ions in them because they promote faster healing, i dont get it!
as has already been said i think the doctors are in it far to much for the money than anything else and often wonder whether they also get paid by pharmaceutical companies for using certain drugs.
thats just my opinion anyway.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:42 pm

try all your potions, wives tails, chantings, burnt offerings, rub birdshit into it, train a frog to fart on it...but for god sake get a trained specialist to look at it also!

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:38 pm

I am NOT suggesting you do this, but, any little itchy sunspots on my arms, hands etc, I just put a dab of straight Dettol on them once a day for two or three days and they are gone. My dear old Dad used to do that. He is now 90 and still going (but slowly)
hoolahoopa.. I have my own colloidal silver maker. Haven't had a cold or flu for years. great for wounds/scratches etc. Also use it on our horses that get cuts.

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:06 am

when it comes down to is you should still go to your G.P just to cover your butt and to make sure everything is good... i'v had a bad year with friends passing but it comes down to seeing some one about your problems, don't sit there and think that it'll pass and that's it....
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Post  shelby23 on Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:22 am

I have a dog that has reacted to a spot and licked the spot and carryed on alot so I had it checked and lucky I did it was a cancer spot and I fixed it early thanks to Bengi the dog
Neale Biloela Queensland

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Post  harryopal on Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:48 am

Hoola Hoopa, It has been a standard practice for decades for pharmaceutical companies to use a whole range of incentives to encourage doctors to use their particular brands. Wining and dining, conventions in exotic places, free samples and a variety of devious means to win doctors over to their brands.
Most drugs have adverse side effects so my attitude has been to avoid drugs and doctors where possible. Break a leg, or if I have a specific problem then of course I go to a doctor. Spent some weeks at Fairfield hospital with malaria so I am not anti doctor.
Treatment of prostate in men is another area of over treatment where many men with benign prostate are panicked in to surgery and then impotence, incontinence and an appalling loss of lifestyle. The ABC radio national health report has often covered this issue with an eminent specialist (sorry I forget his name off hand) saying that most men can manage benign prostate problems without surgery.

Yours tropically, Harry

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Post  Scrubhen on Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:48 am

Yes Tuna, your little post is the most realistic of all and most definitely, if any of your ancestors have had cancer.

Because of my family history my doctor insisted that I get checked via a colonoscopy, so despite the fact that I did not have any symptoms, I went along with his request.

They found a couple of suspicious little things and called me back a few weeks later and removed 200mm of my gut.

I must emphasise that I had no idea that there was any problem before they told me.

Old saying; Stitch in time saves lives
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Post  everhopeful on Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:44 pm

maybe we could all get some of birdmans friend magic salve and cure the world of cancer..would love to see him rub on someones prostate.
good luck

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Post  Scrubhen on Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:44 pm

Hopeful,
I pay that one.
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Post  hotrockgarry on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:25 pm

This is not a plug just an observation , this product had independent tests in a lab and was proven to kill prostate cancer cells . i have used it several times as i have elevated psa . I use it as a preventative not a cure , my doctor said most men die with prostate cancer not from it , i think its crazy that most tests are so unrealiable for prostate cancer .
http://www.drred.com.au/gingerpunch

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Post  vicgoldhunter1 on Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:19 pm

The first thing to do is see your Doc and get a referal to a specialist dont hold off or try any other wifes tails it could take hold before you know it.
I had cancer 2 years ago and had it removed and had some chemo and all going well to date.
I could not find a bad thing to say about the health system that I encountered.
It scared the **** out of me as I was 33 at the time with 5 kids.
I could not stess enough to go to your doc for anything that seems abnormal they spend millions if not billions to find the best treatments for cancer.

Just my 2 bobs worth

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Post  kon61 on Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:47 pm


G'day Gents.

Since were on the topic of health issues,has anyone out there suffered a bad bout of asthma attack in the last couple of days in Victoria?.I for one have,last night,only to hear that many people were taken to hospital for the same reason due to the weather conditions which Doctors blamed it on "lightning asthma".I've never had asthma in my life,but last night with the extreme humidity i had trouble breathing.My lungs felt that they were clogged,and i was struggling to breath.I know i suffer from hay fever,and this year looks like a real bad one coming up,but Ive never experienced what i experienced last night. Back to normal today.Still scratching my head as to what the hell hit me.

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Post  HueyDuck on Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:05 pm

Kon61,

I had this attack 25 years ago same weather conditions, hot, humid then dropped 10 degrees, but all i did was cough it out over many hours....People died that day because they didnt make it to the hospital.....I never get asthma but do get hayfever and use a nose spray as a preventitive....They say every plant that can releases massive amounts of pollen just before it rains so it would have something to do with that too....

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Post  TheH0ward on Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:28 pm

my house mate ended up at the doc today and on cortizone (spelling) for the same asthma problem, and she normally only gets bad allergies, never anything this severe. Another friend of mine spent the last few days in hospital cos of her asthma. My house mate was so bad it was scary. Even i was coughing pretty bad and i dont even suffer from allergies.
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Post  kon61 on Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:10 am



Huey,your not wrong about coughing it out over several hrs.The pollen in conjunction with the temperature changes,must have shot through the roof.
TheHOward,your right about scary m8.It scared the s**t out of me.I had me doubts if id pull through the night.

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