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Post  alexei Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:03 am

hey ! i am carently driving es300 looking for 4 wd for summer (shoud i get one or use my (A1)car)
its been my dream to get one ,the only thing i dont wanna sell my es 4wd for trips Kopfschuettel i love to get one on cash instolmens if possible( do you recon is possible? )

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Post  Guest Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:48 am

Gday alexei


If you are planning to spend a bit of time driving about the bush odds are that you will damage your car, as no matter how careful you are you are bound to get stone and stick damage, and also scratches from protruding branches.

If you are not doing huge klms to your goldfields and are visiting well populated areas then you can get away with using what I would call a soft 4wd, something like a Suzuki sierra, Subaru, or one of the many 4wd vans that are about, these can be bought at reasonable prices compared to the Landcruisers, Patrols etc, I am not putting these cars down by calling them soft, some are extremely capable off road but do not have the chassis design and or weight carry capacity that you need if you were setting up something more serious with long range capability, long range fuel tanks, water tanks etc etc.

A road car in the bush is like a 4wd on the road, its not where it was really designed to be so you will be limiting your access to some areas, and after awhile you will want to get into some of these places and will start to take risks to get in, this is where the chances of damage to you car or getting badly stuck will come in, your road tyres will not have the grip, durability, or puncture resistance of off road tyres so you will find punctures will become an issue.

I am not saying that you cant use a road car for a detecting vehicle as many people do, but you simply have to be aware of its limitations and drive it with that in mind, if the area you frequent gets really messy in the winter months then you know that you simply have to stick to the better roads and tracks or you will get bogged.

Some places can be deceptive, places that you have not been to before and have not seen in the wet can change dramatically, what looks to be a well maintained and travelled road can very easily be under water after a day or so of rain, I go into several areas like this and will always head out when the rain becomes persisitant if I am planning on going somewhere else on that trip, and even with a capable 4wd find that the going can be slow and difficult, I have learnt that to ignore the early warning signs means that you can be stuck there for days.

A bit of common sense and pre planning your trips is the best way of keeping out of trouble.


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Post  Guest Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:03 am

stayyerAU wrote:Gday alexei
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Some places can be deceptive, places that you have not been to before and have not seen in the wet can change dramatically, what looks to be a well maintained and travelled road can very easily be under water after a day or so of rain, I go into several areas like this and will always head out when the rain becomes persisitant if I am planning on going somewhere else on that trip, and even with a capable 4wd find that the going can be slow and difficult, I have learnt that to ignore the early warning signs means that you can be stuck there for days.

A bit of common sense and pre planning your trips is the best way of keeping out of trouble.


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how true!
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/7938341/road-trip-ends-in-disaster


A family's plan to drive the entire width of Australia ended in disaster when their satnav system led them astray, forcing them to spend three nights trapped on a boggy road in northwest NSW.

The 48-year-old man, his wife, 49, and two teenage sons were travelling from Brisbane to Perth in their Nissan Navara on July 29 when they were directed onto Darling River Road near Wilcannia.

The road was closed because of heavy rain.

But the family and their dog carried on regardless and their ute, which was towing a trailer, got trapped in thick mud.

They contacted police for help.

But because of poor weather, emergency services were unable to reach the family, forcing them to spend three nights in the car.

They were rescued at about 8pm (AEST) on Sunday, police say.



Common sense sums it up.

Even mud can defeat the best setup 4x4, and when remote travelling you don't want to take risks

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Post  fcltd Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:16 pm

Land Rover Discoverys are cheap now and the older models are very good 4x4s , in Vic you can pick up a good clean 92-95 Toorak Tracor that has not even seen dirt let alone a 4x4 track for around the $5k mark . you would only need 3 or 4 good nuggets to put you even .
i think after 96 they have a smaller diamerer c-v joint and are prone to breaking under hard conditions [ ie full lock on rocky track uphill with a heavy right foot ] no it wasn't me .
old Pajero's are cheap but have real crap engines and not a very talented 4x4 . you should be able to pan enough gold in a day at Soverion Hill to pay for 1 of them . lol .
keep lookin for that yellow stuff .

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Post  madmax800 Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:21 pm

Even can end up like this.

Now I got to get a new truck.

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