Russian invasion has begun.

Tragically the invasion of Ukraine has commenced.
Already many casualties reported.
Hope & pray the US doesn't get involved.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-28/invasion-ukraine-russia-putin-three-critical-miscalculations/100859778?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

Why won't the Ukraine drop some missiles on Moscow?? They have some (even with nuke warheads) .and it would be perfectly justified (not the nukes) in the current situation.

If nobody(outside the Ukraine) will step in and give ground and air support to the Ukraine then they might as well surrender now and avoid further unnecessary civilian deaths....The current situation will be unwinnable if Putrid decides to get serious.... Right now he is just using softening up methods.

Wipe such thoughts off your mind Adrian & don't even contemplate thinking about the dropping of any nukes, for if such were to take place in todays volatile times, it could spell the beginning of the end for mankind as we know it.
It is very unfortunate, disturbing, as well as distressing to see what is taking place in Ukraine today & can only pray that a solution is found (more sooner than later) by the worlds leaders, to put an end to all this before many more innocent every day civilians, end up losing their lives.
Surrender you say? Regardless of the size & strength of ones opponent, the price of freedom (to be able to live like a human being should live) is worth dying for. Besides, Is that what we Australians would choose to do for an invading nation, who wants to take over Australia as their own & have us live like slaves under their control for the rest of our lives?  I highly doubt it.
If we can't live a life free of thought, free of speech, to be able to live like a human being should live, then best for us not to have lived at all.  

Kon

Of course surrender is unthinkable to an Australian as it is to the Ukrainians but there is no gain in fighting until the last man stands because you will have lost everything whereas surrender no matter how unthinkable it may be is the better choice in an unwinnable fight because you will live to fight another day.
As far as nukes go, Putrid is the only clown threatening to use these. You can be sure every other country is at the ready.

Oh you must be talking giving up to another like minded democratic leader/government Adrian, because that's the only way you might be given the chance to live to fight another day. See what chance you or that of anyone closely associated with you gets, when you surrender to or are captured by an authoritarian/dictator type governing regime & classed as the enemy.
It doesn't matter who threatens to use nuclear weapons Adrian, nobody wins in this type of war, everybody loses.
The sooner world leaders can come to some agreement on completely getting rid of such weapons of mass destruction, the safer the world & all things in it will be. (only wishful thinking on my part I guess)

Kon

Nukes are here to stay now mate . We don't have any but our likely enemies do, So if they decide to get nasty then we are defenceless .with our unbelievably small military strength.
It is time we turned all of our huge uranium stocks into nuke bombs and missiles and spread launchers all across the country. Time we got tough. and pack a few good                   Just kidding. We should all be    
    Problem is that our likely enemies do not give a rats bum about disarmament treaties. They may well sign a treaty but would never abide by it. What country would?? Trust is out the window where war is concerned.

Be nice if we could all go to Nimbin, grow pot , have a few goats and chooks and grow our own vegies n milk the cows of a morning and get our water from an un polluted sparkling mountain stream with sun beams shining through the trees. But that is not reality, Reality is that humans are a violent spieces and everything we have today has been achieved either directly or indirectly via violence.

As ole C.D. said.
It is the strongest and fittest that will survive...Does not matter how smart you are; If a herd of T-Rex's is charging at you , you will be dead meat if you have no defense.

So now Russia is firing hyper sonic missiles at the Ukraine. and is blowing up more children.   Just how much provocation will it take for the West to take out Moscow
Is Spew-tim  authorizing these launches or has the military got a free reign??

At approx 100 million dollars US, ( dunno what that is in rubles) these missiles seem to be a bit of an over kill.....100 million dollars to blow up a 10 million dollar building....Maybe Spew-tin is running out of conventional weapons....Hmm that might be a problem that might cause him to use the bigger blower uppers or maybe chemical

OKay I have changed my mind: It is time to call Putin's bluff and throw out the trash.
Europe and the West cannot allow the annihilation of the Ukraine to continue. It is time to take out the Russian troops, Kremlin and Moscow. Ahh! Ha! Haaa! Haaaaa! Haaaaaaaaaargggghhhh...and other maniacal laughter. ...The West on the left and Russia on the right...

An amusing look at what might happen if Spewtin launches his nukes and the rest of the world retaliates in kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyECrGp-Sw8

A short history of how uranium ended up in an atomic bomb.
http://www.ccnr.org/uranium_events.html

I need a drink after that



cheers moredeep

Maybe Spewtin has a radium Bomb.

I bet nobody can recall when a Radium Bomb was detonated on Antarctica back in 78.
Radium is very nasty stuff.   I think it brings around 30,000 usd  per gram these days ......If you can find anybody who wants to buy it. WAAAAAYYYYYYY more radio active than Uranium.

This one over Antarctica detonated over a simulated village.......I wonder where all that radiation went to?



The radium bomb was developed in the 1970s by Europan scientists. Radium, which was three million times more radioactive uranium, was seen as a better alternative. In Operation Thunder and Glory, the SDF deployed a fully armed R70 Missile against a simulated village on the coast of antarctica. In 1978 Europa made its first ASAT Missiles, one of which was targeted at an old telecom satellite.

one way or the other they're all bad.
I remember the so called neutron bomb, less physical damage but more deaths from the large radiation blast.
Is the radium bomb the same as the neutron bomb Adrian ??


cheers moredeep

The two are totally different.
A Neutron bomb sort of hangs around emitting copious amounts of neutron radiation which pretty much wipes out everything living inside a bulls roar of the emission. There is not a lot of damage to the surrounding buildings and bridges and stuff like that there.

A radon bomb makes a bloody big bang that blows the crap out of everything  within an area relative to the size of the bomb. It does release a lot of Alpha radiation which is not so damaging over just a short distance  but there is also quite a bit of beta and gamma radiation. The  gamma will fry your innards fairly quickly. The alpha and beta can cause major health probs if ingested or becomes trapped in cuts and wounds.

Spewtin is saying that he has a nuke that is bigger and meaner than anything the West may have.

I do not doubt that for a second.....But then again, the yanks some biggies too.

This is what Russia has had in the past, so what they have today could be mind boggling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

Here is a size comparison drawing.
Notice the two little marks at the near zero point on the graph. They are the bombs dropped on japan during the ww2.....And we thought they were big.  

I now reply with a Graeme Kennedy crow call


cheers moredeep

Did you notice that Spewtin told the yanks and other countries that he was going to launch a practice run of his latest and greatest nuke capable missile that he said was undetectable ?. .. On one hand he says that if the yanks start blasting away at Russia he will launch his nukes but on the other, other hand he warns them of a test launch.......Seems to me he warned them in order to prevent them from thinking it was the real deal and to stop them shooting back. That tells me he is bluffing about threatening to launch his nukes coz he knows the yanks will retaliate in kind and that will be the end of Russia.
Also that test missile was supposed to be undetectable, so why warn anybody.... I am pretty sure it was detected at launch no problems.

adrian ss wrote:Maybe Spewtin has a radium Bomb.    

I bet nobody can recall when a Radium Bomb was detonated on Antarctica back in 78.
Radium is very nasty stuff.   I think it brings around 30,000 usd  per gram these days ......If you can find anybody who wants to buy it. WAAAAAYYYYYYY more radio active than Uranium.

This one over Antarctica detonated over a simulated village.......I wonder where all that radiation went to?



The radium bomb was developed in the 1970s by Europan scientists. Radium, which was three million times more radioactive uranium, was seen as a better alternative. In Operation Thunder and Glory, the SDF deployed a fully armed R70 Missile against a simulated village on the coast of antarctica. In 1978 Europa made its first ASAT Missiles, one of which was targeted at an old telecom satellite.

Radium,isn't that what made our Wrist Watch Numbers glow in the Dark.?........stoneshirt.

Radium itself does not glow . The glow is/was  created by adding zinc sulfide and copper to the radium paint..
Over time the glow will weaken as the result of the effects of the radio activity in the radium on the added copper and zinc sulfide.  The paint will remain radio active for many years, in this case  to the order of 1200 years.
So if you have any old radium dial instruments  or carnival glass  even though they may no longer be glowing strongly they will still be radio active and in some cases and circumstances can be quite dangerous to humans.

Today radio active tritium is used instead of radium. Tritium has a very short half life and does not present a dangerous level of radiation.....Well not for very long anyway.

In most consumer glow in the dark products  today the radioactive radium  has been replaced by non radioactive photoluminescence, phosphors that light up when exposed to magnetic radiation  of a particular frequency...........Just like our eyes that respond to emi of a certain frequency to create an image in our mind

There is no colour in the cosmos, just colourless gravity and electromagnetic radiation.

Our eyes are just radio (bio/chemical) frequency receivers that convert some of the radiation around us into an image in our brain.The brain creates the image, the eyes just supply the picture signals to the brain (the receiver) .......All around us is actually darkness. .....So when Big G said 'Let There Be Light" he is having us on coz we did not exist at that moment in time of his Big Bang that caused all of the EMR  to permeate the comos. There was no colour then or day and night coz there was no life at that time and therefore no rf eye receiver  to convert the radiation into an image  in our brains . Our eyes are nothing more than biochemical ultra high frequency radio receiver antenna    

It's a bit like the old tree falling in the forest analogy.
If there is no one there to hear it, does it make a noise?.....Of course the answer is no....The sound we hear is just the way our brains convert the air pressure wave variations from the falling tree into a usable means by which we have  become aware of falling trees or how we can tell when the missus is yelling at us ta put the bloody rubbish bins out etc......Ut's really all very tricky aye??

Here is a chart depicting the known radio frequency spectrum.
The little coloured bit near the top of the chart is what we make an image in our mind out of.
filter that out of our frequency range of electromagnetic reception and all we would see is blackness.

Forget about the end of Russia Adrian & pray we never see the launching of such a nuke by any nation upon another nation, setting off a possible chain reaction towards mankind's destruction.
All nukes everywhere around the world today, should be completely banned from ever being used & or fully & safely dismantled & disposed of.

Kon

"Our eyes are nothing more than biochemical ultra high frequency radio receiver antenna"  

I use mine to charm the Ladies....stoneshirt.

Kon61gold wrote:Forget about the end of Russia Adrian & pray we never see the launching of such a nuke by any nation upon another nation, setting off a possible chain reaction towards mankind's destruction.
All nukes everywhere around the world today, should be completely banned from ever being used & or fully & safely dismantled & disposed of.

Kon

I guess if we do not have any nukes  we will still blow the crap out of each other aye.
If one country has them then the others will need them as a deterrent. Neither side will use them because they know that it would trigger a nuke retaliation..
   Even if there were no nukes some countries still have some very nasty weapons like high power lasers, sonic cannons. Bio weapons, Earthquake bombs and fire bombs, EMP Generators, Microwave lasers, Nerve gas etc.  While nukes exist there is some control over what weapons an enemy army may use.
  We can already see how Spewtin has bluffed America into thinking he will launch nukes at them if they launch an all out attack on him and likewise, he does not want nukes dropping on Russia.

As for China; Well the world does not need china but China needs the world in order to survive.
If all outside investment was pulled out of China and their assets frozen the rest of the world would survive but China would collapse into chaos