First time detecting for a newbe

Hi all was wondering does a first time newbe in detecting need a Miners right in the gold fields as i had a look on Geovic and they state , if looking for gold or minerals you must have a miners right but say nothing about detecting for coins. And i know if do not have a Miners Right they can fine you $30000+ which is rediculous. But for other crimes these days it wont cost that much LOL. Thanks in advance

No permit required to metal detect (hand held metal detector)for coins, relics, jewellery and treasure at the beach however there are some simple rules to abide by if you do not want to give the hobby a bad name.

Have a read here.
https://www.google.com.au/search?sca_esv=581565025&hl=en-AU&gbv=2&q=metal+detecting+rules&oq=metal+detecting+rules&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5

For NSW look here:
https://www.forestrycorporation.com.au/visit/activities/fossicking

For Victoria look here:
https://www.service.vic.gov.au/services/earth-resources

For WA:
Look here
https://www.gold-prospecting-wa.com/metal-detecting-permit.html

For SA,
Look Here:
https://www.gold-prospecting-wa.com/metal-detecting-permit.html

For QLD,
Look here:
https://www.qld.gov.au/recreation/activities/areas-facilities/fossicking/licences-permits/purchase

For NT,
Look here:
https://fossicking.nt.gov.au/useful-information/useful-resources

For Tassie,
Look here:
https://www.mrt.tas.gov.au/prospecting_and_fossicking/prospecting_in_tasmania

Thank you, very much Adrian for the info, i meant to say coin shooting in the gold fields .
I looked at the Victorian miners rights regs and says nothing about coin shooting in goldfields,
My son wants to come out with me for the day only as normally he is very busy, and doubt if he wants to take up this hobby , They also state if you have not got a miners right you have to hand over any gold or minerals that you may have found. to the inspector or person in authority.

There is a bazar situation though ,that is any relics found on crown land belongs to the crown, they're classified as historical artefacts. {pls correct me if I'm wrong on this ruling }
If you're questioned you simply have to say that you are leaving the object found in the ground.
It's easier to get a miners right  and just say if questioned "I'm looking for gold"
It's a crazy rule ,who would put a gold sovereign back in the ground?
good luck


cheers    moredeep

ps may vary from state to state

If you are going to the gold fields then get a miners right and cover all bases.
If you are using a Jewellery, coin and relic detector with Discrimination then it will be difficult (a "person of authority")to say one way or the other as to whether you are looking for gold or otherwise.

https://lawyersconveyancing.com.au/real-estate-news/finders-keepers/

Mate if you find a coin on the beach there is absolutely no way of finding who dropped it.
Imagine if we all handed in our coins (millions of them Australia wide) that we have found, asked for a receipt for each one and waited for the 30 day time or whatever it is to see if someone claims it/them.

The police would go totally troppo with the extra paperwork.
    I can see it now: A bloke goes in to the cop shop and says; Has anybody handed in a 2 dollar coin, I lost mine at the beach 30 days ago, my favorite coin that is!
Can yer describe it mate? Yeah sure; it is 2 dollars, a gold colour and has got an aborigine on one side and I dunno what is on the other side.
    Right mate we have a few hundred of those here you are welcome have a look through them, make sure you only select your coin cos if you take somebody else's coin then that would be Stealing By Finding.

Thanks Adrian and Moredeep About five years ago i detected at the beach with my SD 2300 and found a five cent peace, with a queens head and porcy pine on the other side and found about 10 small tent pegs ,Still looking for the TENT  LOL.  I think a purchase of a miners right will do the job. Hope the Aboriginal land Council have not been given this area yet, so they can lease it back to the council for a fee. Woops feel free to delete the last sentence,as i got a bit carried away .

Come again? I happen to find something priceless worth in the multi-thousands or millions of dollars, only to lose it by having it confiscated by the Crown without any form of reward to the finder?    
Like moredeep has said, anything of historical value found on crown land, does belong to the crown & should be handed in according to law, shame that such an absurd draconian law created by the crown, for the crown & nothing for the finder/s still exists in place today, giving rise to  black market sellers onto private collectors & not ending up in museums, where priceless treasure/archaeological finds should end up for all to see & behold.
Here's a story going back some years of where some on here might remember reading.
Several years back a father & son found a large fossilized dinosaur egg whilst the son were playing on the beach sands.
Anyways, once word got out about such a find, the crown/law were onto them like blow flies on ****, telling them that such artefact/s belongs to the crown & there are laws & or heavy penalties associated with such finds, if it were not handed in. So the museum & officers of the law (for the sake of the museum) had  offered the boys father 25 thousand dollars to hand in their find. The father being a little more wiser for the better towards such a minuscule draconian offer, said to the officers of the law, since it (the egg) were only worth 25,000 dollars to them, it can stay buried were it were found & you can go look for it yourselves, for it were no longer in their possession (hence no law were broken) & no charges could be laid.
Guess what happened next? The museum together with law officials came back with an offer of $250,000 if they were to give up their find & show them the place where the fossilised dinosaur egg were found. To say that the boy & his father were first short changed by tenfold, would be an understatement.  
What the crown is doing with such laws involving priceless treasure finds or that of artefacts, is criminal in itself, for it tempts innocent person/s which happen to stumble upon such important archaeological treasure finds, turning into criminals by not handing their priceless finds in.
I understand the current laws associated with such finds, but maybe with the crown offering some form of reward for such finds, instead of penalties/jail sentencings, we just might happen to see a hell of a lot more priceless treasure or archaeological finds, sitting within our museums & not sold onto private hands, through black markets, where no one gets a chance to see them.
So the moral of the story is simple. We as prospectors must abide by the laws governing what we are prospecting for, but equipment & or licenses in pursuit of such treasures, costs one both time & money & in the case of any out of the ordinary priceless treasure finds (whether it be in coin, jewellery, artefact or gemstone), I wouldn't be to quick in handing it in back to the crown, before one has thoroughly done ones research/homework on or that, of any repercussions/circumstances associated with such item/s found.

Kon

Thanks very much for that Kon61gold yes their is a lot of things in this milinia that make no sense at all. i like your banter ,but the thousand million $treasure you found that is out of your hands now and was given to me is now for sale for you and have a special buying scheme for you

Good one hapalogh

Kon