Antarctic Ice Fields

I guess climate change being the result of human activity, according to climate change buffs, isa bit like lawyers;
They can take a gathering of data and make them sound either false or true depending on what their aim is.

   One very simple truth is that no matter what we do, no matter whether we reach zero pollution levels, no matter if we scrap all fossil fuel burning, no matter if we switch to hydrogen or electric powered transport or even nuclear electricity generation or even if we all went wheels up and died...Climate change will take place regardless of whether we are here or not.... It is a simple truth that even if there was zero life on this planet, the climate and weather patterns will continue to change as a natural matter of course that is determined by the very nature of our planet and the physics of the solar system.

adrian ss wrote:I guess climate change as a result of human activity buffs, are a bit like lawyers;
They can take a gathering of data and make them sound either false or true depending on what their aim is.

   One very simple truth is that no matter what we do, no matter whether we reach zero pollution levels, no matter if we scrap all fossil fuel burning, no matter if we switch to hydrogen or electric powered transport or even nuclear electricity generation or even if we all went wheels up and died...Climate change will take place regardless of whether we are here or not.... It is a simple truth that even if there was zero life on this planet, the climate and weathe patterns will continue to change as a natural matter of course that is determined by the very nature of our planet and solar system.

The evidence now shows beyond all reasonable doubt than mans activities are now the primary drivers of climate change.

adrian ss wrote:I guess climate change being the result of human activity, according to climate change buffs, isa bit like lawyers;
They can take a gathering of data and make them sound either false or true depending on what their aim is.

   One very simple truth is that no matter what we do, no matter whether we reach zero pollution levels, no matter if we scrap all fossil fuel burning, no matter if we switch to hydrogen or electric powered transport or even nuclear electricity generation or even if we all went wheels up and died...Climate change will take place regardless of whether we are here or not.... It is a simple truth that even if there was zero life on this planet, the climate and weather patterns will continue to change as a natural matter of course that is determined by the very nature of our planet and the physics of the solar system.

So I guess we need a new name for it Adrian,
Atypical climate change?
NQR climate change?
Accelerating climate change?
Weather or not?
or just good old; man made climate change, MMCC.


cheers moredeep

Ahh stuff it!
I have been told that my posts are nonsense and are a waste of space, so phooey! I am happier in the bush talking to the crows.

When they are 75 or greater they might have some experience to fall back on Adrian, and see that things are solved in the END remember the Iodine tablets that they feed us in school for Atomic fall out.


Strong iodine is used to treat overactive thyroid, iodine deficiency, and to protect the thyroid gland from the effects of radiation from radioactive forms of iodine.

Adrian, although no one can predict the future 100% correct all of the time, but some of the time, they do get it right.
Now in regards to climate change, there will always be the fors' & against by the sciences, non believers or conspiracists that are in it for personal gain themselves. For the love of money (self interest) has a tendency to turn its back on justice & righteousness, which almost always is in favour of the few, at the detriment of the many.
Regardless of all that I've said above, as humans living on this planet, within an environment that gives us everything in order to sustain us all, (like looking after or own back yards) don't you think we have a responsibility of looking after the planet & the environment we live in, or should we just continue to seek out each & every others own interests, sitting back in the hope that this planet of ours, after years of mans use & abuse, continues to do the same?  Does not the saying of "we reap what we sow" have meaning any more? I highly doubt it.
Yes change in way of Climate or seasonal weather patterns (or for any other reason for that matter) will come & go, for it is inevitable that change take place, but not in the manner you state it down as, for man (whether we like it or not) is directly or indirectly contributing to that change? For how could we not, when the worlds populations continue to grow in size?  
Do we not have the power to speed things up or slow things down in way of change? Of course we do, for we were given that right by being born (supposedly) the most intelligent creature on this planet. (although sometimes I wonder )
Just like positive lives hand in hand with negative,  for neither can either exist without the other, than neither can we humans keep taking out from our planet & not reimburse the planet from what we've taken out, for how then, can we expect the planet to keep giving?
By sitting back not caring to do anything, knowing that the planet over time will eventually do it all for us, while man continues to grow in population requiring the need to devour more & more of the planets resources, leads not to a favourable, progressive evolution over time in favour of man, but speeds up our own extinction.

Kon

A must watch
https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/wild-weather:-our-planet-under-threat/13809090

Kon61gold wrote:Adrian, although no one can predict the future 100% correct all of the time, but some of the time, they do get it right.
Now in regards to climate change, there will always be the fors' & against by the sciences, non believers or conspiracists that are in it for personal gain themselves. For the love of money (self interest) has a tendency to turn its back on justice & righteousness, which almost always is in favour of the few, at the detriment of the many.
Regardless of all that I've said above, as humans living on this planet, within an environment that gives us everything in order to sustain us all, (like looking after or own back yards) don't you think we have a responsibility of looking after the planet & the environment we live in, or should we just continue to seek out each & every others own interests, sitting back in the hope that this planet of ours, after years of mans use & abuse, continues to do the same?  Does not the saying of "we reap what we sow" have meaning any more? I highly doubt it.
Yes change in way of Climate or seasonal weather patterns (or for any other reason for that matter) will come & go, for it is inevitable that change take place, but not in the manner you state it down as, for man (whether we like it or not) is directly or indirectly contributing to that change? For how could we not, when the worlds populations continue to grow in size?  
Do we not have the power to speed things up or slow things down in way of change? Of course we do, for we were given that right by being born (supposedly) the most intelligent creature on this planet. (although sometimes I wonder )
Just like positive lives hand in hand with negative,  for neither can either exist without the other, than neither can we humans keep taking out from our planet & not reimburse the planet from what we've taken out, for how then, can we expect the planet to keep giving?
By sitting back not caring to do anything, knowing that the planet over time will eventually do it all for us, while man continues to grow in population requiring the need to devour more & more of the planets resources, leads not to a favourable, progressive evolution over time in favour of man, but speeds up our own extinction.

Kon

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210520-could-humans-really-destroy-all-life-on-earth

Remember Soylent Green!!.. It has arrived ....Why toss out good food?? etc etc.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/soylent-green-predicted-2022-meat-substitutes/

Haven't heard of that movie
There's probably a few more movies we could add.

What killed everyone in Omega Man?
plague
Robert Neville is the only survivor of an apocalyptic war waged with biological weapons. The plague caused by the war has killed everyone else except for a few hundred deformed, nocturnal people calling themselves "The Family". The plague has caused them to become sensitive to light, as well as homicidally psychotic.


cheers moredeep

This used to be a great gold prospecting site, now reverted to doom, gloom and fantasy, but not going to give up and turn to watching depressing TV...

Well this is the "Off Topic" section of the forum.If the topics are boring to some or dull then don't respond to them. Just stay with the gold prospecting and detecting sections and enjoy.
Just because the gold prospecting section is overly quiet these days is no reason to look at the Off Topics If that is not your interest and if you do look then just read it and move on without commenting if it is not your cup of tea. so to speak.

moredeep wrote:Haven't heard of that movie
There's probably a few more movies we could add.

What killed everyone in Omega Man?
plague
Robert Neville is the only survivor of an apocalyptic war waged with biological weapons. The plague caused by the war has killed everyone else except for a few hundred deformed, nocturnal people calling themselves "The Family". The plague has caused them to become sensitive to light, as well as homicidally psychotic.


cheers   moredeep

You have not lived if you have not seen Soylent Green....A truly sick movie of the 70s.
The world was over[populated, crops were failing due to climate change and wars, famine everywhere so what the hell, some enterprising sod decided to process humans after death and sometimes prior for food in the form of a biscuit. (Soylent Green). This was taking place by 2022. Everyone was crook and having to wear masks as an every day action, and so on.

I agree about the off topic section Adrian, as long as it remains civil and void of politics and religion.
Just like sitting around a campfire at night, one can only discuss detecting and prospecting for so long before one stray's onto another topic.
How many times one has solved the worlds problems over a beer and a camp fire?

LOGAN"S RUN was another futuristic movie that was all about keeping the remnants of civilisation in a utopian domed city.
By the age of 30 citizens were killed to keep the population under control.
I don't think this will happen by the ice caps melting but who knows, it was set in the year 2274.


cheers moredeep

Yes have seen Logan's Run. Also 'On The beach" and "Silent Running".
Silent Running , now that was a great movie with a fantastic music sound track. Ahhh the good ole days when the world was on the brink of nuclear war...Bit like today.