QED Information

adrian ss wrote:I reckon we should get the discussion re the 
New Aussie PI cranked up again??....Yes/No?
I have read the other forums and there is nothing but negative crap there.

On the other hand. If nobody has the new Aussie PI then how can we talk about it?? 

Reg Wilson wrote:Before it was taken down, the 'little detector' site just about broke all records for hits, proving that  indeed people were interested in it. Some with vested interests would be happy to see it fade into oblivion. That is not going to happen, whether or not it makes a reappearance here.
Unfortunately there are some who cannot keep themselves 'tidy' on a keyboard, as you can see on the other slightly more Untamed forum. Personal attacks are a pretty poor show, and it was a shame that the little detector was scrubbed, however as Howard is flat out trying to keep up with demand, I don't think he is too worried about whether it makes it back onto 4umer.
The real losers are those that just wish to keep up with developments in the detector world regardless of whether they are in the market for a new machine. The little detector may not be everyone's cup of tea, and some may find it too hard to adapt to something new and different, but for others it may be 'just what the doctor ordered'.

Reg Wilson wrote:Decided to do a quick test this morning before the heat got too severe.
My 50 acre property between Castlemaine and Maldon has an ancient riverbed (pliocene) that runs eastward through the entire property toward the Muckleford fault line which is less than 1/2 a K away. There has been a small amount of surfacing between here and the fault line, although there has been little gold found East of the Smith's reef line of enrichment. I suspect that this area was detected many years ago, although I have managed a few bits, the best being 20 grams. The ground on the edge of the old lead contains ironstone and quartz dykes showing on the surface, and is therefore very shallow.
Using the Coiltek 18" Elite I set up the QED altering the settings to get the best response in the quieter ground I worked my way across the lead and into the shallower and ironstone riddled country. Surprisingly, no alteration of setting were necessary, and the QED just hummed along nicely, picking out shotgun pellets quite easily. (unfortunately that's all I found)
These are the settings used.
delay   151
bias   046
vol    20  (using Jabra NC headphones)
gain   001
mode  002
Verdict......Seems to handle a large coil quite well, but only put in a couple of hours before the heat beat me.
Tomorrow will try a Nuggetfinder 25".

Reg Wilson wrote:gef50, the QED has no discrimination and runs on mono coils.
I put in a couple of hours with the NF 25" this morning and was pleasantly surprised at how smooth it ran, even over some ironstone ground. I was able to run a lower GB setting than the 18 " Elite that I tested yesterday, and although no buried targets were encountered, I was happy with its usability. I intend to try the QED on Coiltek's test site in the near future, and Wombat has said he will be happy to come along to see how it performs. For those interested, the settings used today are as follows,
delay....135
bias......47
vol.......20    ( using Jabra noise cancelling headphones ) Koss may require higher setting.
gain......2
mode....2

Reg Wilson wrote:Today I took the QED to the Coiltek testing site. Wombat from the PMAV was kind enough to accompany me, and he brought along his 5000 with 12" Nuggetfinder coil.
The QED when shut down remembers the last settings used, and restarts on those settings, so when I cranked it up it was not happy, so it took some adjusting before it was a 'happy camper'. Working on Maldon settings it had trouble picking up most of the targets, however when readjusted it picked up all targets, the larger and deeper ones giving the best response. The first testing was done with the 11" Elite which turned out to be the most difficult coil to tune to. Next we tried the 18" Elite which again needed retuning to get a good response, but gave a slightly better result. All the time Wombat took notes on response and tuning settings. Finally we hooked up his 12" Evolution coil which seemed to be the best marriage of the three combinations.
Now comes the part that many have called out for..... We tested the GPZ 7000 against the QED,  and we tested the GPX 5000 as well. Wombat and I were very surprised. I just can't reveal the results, as the howls and screams and personal abuse would be overwhelming.
What should I post? I asked him. He shook his head. "They'll crucify you".

Wombat wrote:OK everyone, I have been following this topic for a while now and when I contacted Reg about other matters I mentioned that Coiltek had a test patch up here in Maryborough and he should try out the QED there. He agreed and asked if I would show him where it was and would I like to company him as a witness of the tests. I agreed as I have never seen the QED in the raw as they say. I was taking notes of test and settings on each coil used. Nothing else.
So this is my report as I see it. But before I start I would like to let everyone know that I have no connection with the Qed in anyway or the company that makes them. I only came along as a witness and take notes.
Today we went out to the test area in the morning. The weather was fine but hot. About 26c.
Reg brought along 2 coils, 11” Coiltek Elite and a 18” Coiltek Elite. I brought my GPX 5000 with the 12” Nugget Finder Evolution. The test patch consisted of 5 lead targets, each at different depths. 3gm at 9”, 7gm at 12”, 15gm at 14” 2oz at 20” and 5.5 oz at 22”.
The first coil we tried was the 11”Elite. At first it took awhile to set up the machine and to except any targets. Reg had the machine set up for an area he was trying out earlier at Muckleford. But after a bit of playing around we had the QED with the 11” coil picking up ALL targets. Then we tried the 18”Elite coil. At first we kept the QED at the same settings for the 11” coil. But quickly realized that these setting weren’t going to work for the 18” coil. So back we went and started to reset some of the setting. Eventually we got the 18” to except ALL targets as well. Then we tried my 12” evolution coil. Starting of at first with the same setting as we used for the 11” Elite. These setting weren’t bad, but was not getting the same results as we were with the 11” Elite, that we would have liked. But with a bit of fine tuning we had the 12” Evolution picking up ALL targets just as good as the 11” Elite. On some targets it was slightly better and sharper target response.
We rated all target sounds for every coil used for 0 to 10. Zero being least response and 10 excellent response. We got every coil at the end of the day coming in between 6 to 9. On the two deeper targets we were getting around 7 and 8. Six was coming in most times for the 15gm’er. on all coils. Why, I’m not sure??

My personal opinion of the QED as what I saw from today’s test. And remember this is my opinion only. The QED is a good machine for the price. It will fit into the price zone below $2000 for a good possible gold machine. I say “a possible gold machine” because we did not go out into the goldfield after the test to put these settings to the test. The QED can take a variety of coils. Not like the SDC2300 were it only has one coil, for $3,300 price tag. Please don’t get me wrong the 2300 is an excellent and proven machine. But not everyone can afford the 2300 or a 5000 or even a 4500. So this machine in my opinion will fill that gap of affordability and can be used with many coils. The side effects of this machine that I could see was every time you wanted to change coils, you had to play around with new settings to get it to except all targets at depth and size. But if you are only planning to use one size coil only, and you have got all your settings right. The only thing you would have to do would be to adjust the ground balance, as this machine is a manual ground balancing machine. Do I like this machine "Yes" For the price it is an excellent machine. Would I buy one. Not yet until I see how it functions in the proper goldfields. But what I saw today I was impressed for such a small compact machine with a great punch. I won't compare this machine with other machines out there as all machines have there good points and bad points.
Reg is now going back and hitting the goldfields with these new setting as a start point. We did try my GPX5000 with my 12” coil over the test patch latter. And we also tried the GPZ7000 with it’s 14” coil and also with the 19” coil. I won’t mention these results as my report is on the QED only and no other detector.
Wombat

Wombat wrote:Thank's Jen and the rest of the Moderators for bringing back this topic, as I know that some of our fellow forum members were interested in the QED. So I plead to everyone' "keep this topic on line and no name bashing or disrespect to anyone that may make a comment that you may not like". Ask questions by all means or state what you think about the machine. If you can not say something nice about the person making a comment , then don't say anything at all. So please let's not get this topic banned again because I think it may never come back. So got out there and play nice. And thank's again for bring it back.
wombat

Jen58 wrote:

Wombat wrote:Thank's Jen and the rest of the Moderators for bringing back this topic, as I know that some of our fellow forum members were interested in the QED. So I plead to everyone' "keep this topic on line and no name bashing or disrespect to anyone that may make a comment that you may not like". Ask questions by all means or state what you think about the machine. If you can not say something nice about the person making a comment , then don't say anything at all. So please let's not get this topic banned again because I think it may never come back. So got out there and play nice. And thank's again for bring it back.
wombat

Yes wombat lets hope it runs nice and smoothly
As i got the final vote as to whether or not to place this thread back up.
So For the best interest of our members and guests
I thought of them first.

adrian ss wrote:Had a read of JPs Field Test of the QED. Can you imagine trying to explain that to a newbie.
Don't like the temp sensitive aspect  of the Bias at all.
Anyway I still have my name down for one.

adrian ss wrote:True, very true indeed. 

I am itching to get my hands on a QED but a 2 month wait is irritating.... I could be dead by then or broke. 

adrian ss wrote:Finish jobs around the house.   Fair go mate. Bad language is not allowed here.

Ridge Runner wrote:I was pleasantly surprized to see how well that machine picked up the tiny bits.

davsgold wrote:

Ridge Runner wrote:I was pleasantly surprized to see how well that machine picked up the tiny bits.

G'day Ridge Runner

Do you have a QED, by the post you have made it seems you must have one, otherwise how would you be surprised at what the machine could pick up?

cheers dave

rockhunter62 wrote:Please excuse my ignorance folks but can someone tell me what QED stands for?



Doug