GPX 5000 Settings

Now fellas iv`e got a question for you and hopefully you might be able to help me.
I have a GPX5000 which i really like but am losing confidence in it reason being since iv`e bought it iv`e been going back to old patches and
working them hard, but recently iv`e gone back to a couple and someone else has been there and has found gold where i have walked over and over and i no i have covered every inch
of that ground, now im using the coiltek 6" which picks up pieces that doesnt even register on my scales, im thinking that the settings i have on my 5000 are all over the place which is costing me Gold
can you please advise me on what settings i should be running my 5000 on for my mono 6" and my 14" gold stalker.
Thankyou very much
BALONY

THINK GOLD ITS FRIDAY

Hi balony
Have you tried enhance ?
How noisey is the ground?
Do you use a booster? And speaker?
There can be so many variables why someone else is finding gold were you haven't.
It could be the emi on the day or ground conditions
I could rant on about variables all day

But my suggestion try all your timmings/coils ramp your detector up in each then tame it to your own comfort
It could even be a case of tone or target volume , stabiliser or gain
Can you run normal timings on the ground your working ? With lower gain even down to 5 ujusting settings to get it to run smooth in normal?

Sorry for ranting but hope this helps in some way

fine gold
stabilizer 8
target volume 7
manual tune 100-120
gain 10 upwards ( depending on ground conditions )
tracking fixed

mate like dreamer said there is a million variables.
do you scrub your coil ? do you air swing ? how fast are you sweeping left to right.
that 6" is hot on small pieces but it don`t go real deep.
pm me if you want other settings
cheers dave

Gday thanks for the info friends,
i have to disagree with you on the depth using a 6" only because it was proven to me the other day,
a friend of mine was using a 6" coiltek and i still cant believe it he found a 8.7oz nugget at 18" deep, hard to believe but its true such an awsome find.
My coil never leaves the ground,very slow swinging and wide to, so im really not sure whats going on.

BALONY

THINK GOLD ITS FRIDAY

You'd hope a 5000 would find a nugget 8.7 ozs @ 450ml even it were a coke can you were using as a coil.

Nice find !

Can't add to what's been covered except for - I think that happens to many of us .. leaving gold for the next prospector.

Hi try this
deep on the front
run in fine gold
tracking fixed if the ground is quiet
on the back
vol limit 10-12
spec fine gold
mot slow
rx gain 14-16
audio quiet
audio what you like 45 i like
stabizer 12
target vol 10-13
resp inv
track med
iron rej off

thats ok its always good to learn

Nice work fellas thats the beauty about a forum like this you can learn so much quickly if you pay attenion to detail.
CHEEERS BALONY

THINK GOLD ITS FRIDAY

Balony wrote:Gday thanks for the info friends,
i have to disagree with you on the depth using a 6" only because it was proven to me the other day,
a friend of mine was using a 6" coiltek and i still cant believe it he found a 8.7oz nugget at 18" deep, hard to believe but its true such an awsome find.
My coil never leaves the ground,very slow swinging and wide to, so im really not sure whats going on.

BALONY

THINK GOLD ITS FRIDAY

Baloney, just because an 8" coil gets a large nugget at depth does not mean it will get all large nuggets at the same death. Problem with the smaller coils on larger deeper nuggets is they will quite often register the response as being very broad similar to ground noise and be ignored or missed by the operator as the sound isn't identifiable as being a possible target noise.

As an example a couple of seasons ago I found a virgin patch with a 16" Monoloop, going back over the exact same ground with an 18" mono I found a further 2 ounces in nuggets, some of which were multiple targets in the same hole. Largest piece? 15 grams, however average gold size was closer to 3 grams. From a transmit point of view an 8" mono and an 18" have a similar field at the 12 to 18 inch mark, however the receive surface area is vastly different, it is the receive surface area that counts in the coil game, the bigger and rounder the better.

Hope this helps
JP

The following settings were what were recomended when I did a training day around Maryborough Vic for use with the 5000 and the 11" Mono coil. My first question/s are; Would you chose anything different? If so why?
Also, I have a Minelab 8" Mono and a Coiltek 18"x11" Mono eliptical, of these settings what would change with each coil size and why?
Last but not least, apart from the front panel selector to DD, I have an 11" DD Minelab, would anything change for this coil?

Front Panel -
SEARCH MODE General
Soil/Timings Special
COIL/RX Mono
BALANCE Tracking

Rear Panel - MAIN MENU -
BACKLIGHT Off
BATTERY TEST >7.4
VOL LIMIT 12
GB TYPE Normal
SPECIAL Fine Gold
MAN TUNE 106
MOTION Slow
RX GAIN 14-16
AUDIO Quiet
AUDIO TONE 50
STABILIZER 6
SIGNAL 18
TARGET VOL 14
RESPONSE Normal
TRACKING Medium
IRON REJECT Off

condor223 wrote:The following settings were what were recomended when I did a training day around Maryborough Vic for use with the 5000 and the 11" Mono coil. My first question/s are; Would you chose anything different? If so why?
Also, I have a Minelab 8" Mono and a Coiltek 18"x11" Mono eliptical, of these settings what would change with each coil size and why?
Last but not least, apart from the front panel selector to DD, I have an 11" DD Minelab, would anything change for this coil?

Front Panel -
SEARCH MODE      General
Soil/Timings          Special
COIL/RX                Mono
BALANCE               Tracking

Rear Panel - MAIN MENU -    
BACKLIGHT         Off
BATTERY TEST    >7.4
VOL LIMIT          12
GB TYPE             Normal
SPECIAL             Fine Gold
MAN TUNE          106
MOTION             Slow
RX GAIN             14-16
AUDIO                Quiet
AUDIO TONE       50
STABILIZER        6
SIGNAL              18
TARGET VOL       14
RESPONSE          Normal
TRACKING          Medium
IRON REJECT      Off

yep right away tracking, should run fixed as often as you can... you should only use tracking if the ground is highly variable, stabilizer should be FP, gain should be FP to say 14,
cheers
stoppsy

Thanks, bur what's FP?

FP is factory preset
cheers
stoppsy

I would also try changing Audio Type to Normal. Quiet should only be used in worst case situations where EMI is causing problems or as a last resort to eliminate stubborn ground noise.
Fine Gold + Tracking + Quiet will remove too many good targets. You won't hear anything but the loudest signals and as we all know all the easy gold from the surface has long gone. Set up your detector to pick up as much of the fainter, deeper sounds as possible.

Some points to get your head around on the GPX series detectors are.

EMI is controlled by the coil size and type, motion setting, audio setting, stabiliser setting and gain setting. The GPX's are optimised around mono coils, but DD's are still an option for those that like them. Raising the gain, motion or stabiliser lets in more interference, as does using the boost and deep audio functions. Running slow or very slow motion, gains below 12 and stabiliser between 7 and 10 helps in most instances if using boost or deep depending on the coil size. Change to normal audio and the settings can be raised. Change to Quiet audio on a noisy day and the gain and stabiliser settings can be run quite high ( I have run at 20 for both with a 14" coil and still had a smooth threshold on a very noisy day).

Ground noise is controlled by the tracking function in some timings (Enhance and Smooth should be run in fixed), or by the soil timings. Normal will give the best response usually, Sensitive Extra for the smaller deep ones, Fine Gold for when the ground starts to become troublesome, Enhance for when Fine Gold won't deal with the ground, and Smooth timing for extreme cases. If the ground is a problem using the "smooth class" of timings (fine, enhance, smooth) then it is likely to be conductive (salty) and then Salt Gold or Salt coarse can be tried.

There are always exceptions but the above is the general run of things.

There ya go condor223, all nice 'n easy.

condor223 wrote:The following settings were what were recomended when I did a training day around Maryborough Vic for use with the 5000 and the 11" Mono coil.

G'day condor223

You say you did a training day, did they actually teach you anything or just take your money. Those are all good questions you have asked, and you have got good answers, but alot of that should have been covered in the training day.

cheers dave

Yes I was given a cheat sheet of settings on the training. But I have seen other comments on this and other forums.
So I threw it out there to see what came back. I've noticed that I tend to take more notice of those that explain why rather than just list. I'm new to the 5000 so I am still trying to get my head around what does what and why. It will be 5 months before my next expedition to Vic so I'm trying to get familiar with the equipment, and, yes I know FP are a good start, but I'm trying to learn what different coils, conditions and detecting might change these settings and the impact of those changes. My options for practice over summer in SA are limited.

Best of luck and hope you get it worked out mate...
cheers
stoppsy

condor223 wrote:Yes I was given a cheat sheet of settings on the training. But I have seen other comments on this and other forums.
So I threw it out there to see what came back. I've noticed that I tend to take more notice of those that explain why rather than just list. I'm new to the 5000 so I am still trying to get my head around what does what and why. It will be 5 months before my next expedition to Vic so I'm trying to get familiar with the equipment, and, yes I know FP are a good start, but I'm trying to learn what different coils, conditions and detecting might change these settings and the impact of those changes. My options for practice over summer in SA are limited.

G'day condor223

A cheat sheet is not much use without a bit of an explanation/help to go with it, I'm sure you will get the hang of it, but it is certainly easier and a much quicker learning curve to go out with someone who will help you and explain things as they go.

It's gonna be hot so there might not be much practice till it cools down a bit, but you can still read and research as much as you can in the hot weather.

You probably have already read this page but here is a link to some good settings, and if I were you I'd take notice of Jonathan Porter (JP) posts, as he recommends some very good settings to get you going and finding gold.
https://golddetecting.forumotion.net/t2567-settings-for-the-5000

Good luck with your adventure/hobby

cheers dave

Thanks Dave, I've already checked that link and in fact a couple of messages to Jonathan. Wealth of info, I have 3 of his DVDs

Mike

Front panel any off them Deep general or custom A,B or c.
Special
Mono
Fixed
Threshold 1 oclock position.


I use a Reeds LuckLark Booster Battery on Boost Volume 3/4 up
Back Panel
Back light 5
Batt test 8.00 Lucky Lark producing 8.3 volts
Volume Limit 16
GB Type Gen
Special Fine Gold
Man Tune 24 especially near power lines
Deep
Motion Very Slow
RX Gain 18-20 but mainly 20
Audio Normal
Tone 34
Stabilizer 20
Signal17
Target Volume 8
Response Normal
Tracking Slow
Iron Reject Off.
Use Nugget Finder 14'x9" and duel speakers Great in Charters Towers area.

Wouldnt it be a bit (a lot)noisy with the RX and Stab set so high???

Could I be given settings for minelab5000 detector for prospecting sandstone WA I am using a 12"nugget finder advantage thanks.
Jussie

Hi jussie try the settings condor 223 put up I would run the vol limit at 18 and try running inv ,if it not quiet try backing the rx back and the stab,with the audio tone it depends on your hearing with my ears I have worked in noisy environment all my life I find 42 works best for me regards john:D

Hi everyone.

Have tried setting up my GPX5000 with an Evolution 15” nugget finder mono coil. I have an issue with not being able to set the ground balance. The settings on the front cap are:
General
Special
Mono
Fixed
I perform an Auto tune in which is all good, but when it comes time to perform a ground balance by pushing the green button and pumping the coil up and down, I don’t hear any slight beep.....not sure what’s is wrong here. If I flick the switch from fixed to tracking, then I am able to perform the ground balance as I can hear the beep when pushing the green button.
Any advice would be great thanks!
Golddirt

As far as I'm aware golddirt there is no beep after ground balancing when in fixed.

cheers   moredeep

G’day Golddirt and welcome to the forum,

Yes moredeep is right the beep only happens when the detector is set in the Auto gb mode. The beeping sounds letting you know that the gb goes into the fast tracking mode, which only lasts for a few seconds after you release the button.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

Mike.

Ok, thanks Mike and moredeep for the advice. I am just starting out here.
I used those settings based on some advice from others.
If there is a better setup with the 5000 and an evolution 15’’ then I am all ears !

I am poking around charters towers
Thanks again for the prompt reply

Golddirt

In my haste to answer your question I forgot to say welcome,so welcome to the forum golddirt.
As I've said in the past ,play around with audio settings as well.
If the ground is quiet experiment in deep or boost,crazy ground or EMI/lighting go quiet reduce rx gain a little.
When you get are target switch audio settings to hear the difference.
Half the fun is playing around with the settings,good luck.


cheers   moredeep