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Post  planetcare Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:48 pm

Conspiracists are omnidirectionally beefing over a theory that starts with the claim COVID is connected to snake venom and only gets more out there. lol!
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vdkp/bryan-ardis-watch-the-water-snake-venom-covid

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Post  Kon61gold Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:16 am

Snake venom  Shocked Well that's a new one to me, but then again, last conspiracy theory I heard were that covid were more connected with AIDS  no? Shocked  Laughing  What's next?
Conspiracy theorists wreak havoc with any story, not just the one story. As a matter of fact, they find it hard to get a good nights sleep without having fulfilled their daily rounds of conspiracy. Shocked V02 V04

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Post  Firefly Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:01 am

Kon61gold wrote:last conspiracy theory I heard were that covid were more connected with AIDS  no? Shocked  Laughing  What's next?
Conspiracy theorists wreak havoc with any story, not just the one story. As a matter of fact, they find it hard to get a good nights sleep without having fulfilled their daily rounds of conspiracy. Shocked V02 V04

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Kon, are you sure immune suppression is not occurring or acquired following mRNA vaccination? Perhaps consider impartially the findings in this recent medical paper.


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Post  adrian ss Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:07 am

sounds like the end of civilization is coming. Q24  So better get in some Class Action Lawsuits now  and make some money before we are all dead, just for a bit of last ditch fun.....I guess global warming will not be worthy of street demos if we are all gunna be dead  from covid 19 aids. Q40 Q35 Q24
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Post  planetcare Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:06 am

Firefly wrote:
Kon61gold wrote:last conspiracy theory I heard were that covid were more connected with AIDS  no? Shocked  Laughing  What's next?
Conspiracy theorists wreak havoc with any story, not just the one story. As a matter of fact, they find it hard to get a good nights sleep without having fulfilled their daily rounds of conspiracy. Shocked V02 V04

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Kon, are you sure immune suppression is not occurring or acquired following mRNA vaccination? Perhaps consider impartially the findings in this recent medical paper.


SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines induce persistent human germinal centre responses
Jackson S. Turner, 
Jane A. O’Halloran, 
Elizaveta Kalaidina, 
Wooseob Kim, 
Aaron J. Schmitz, 
Julian Q. Zhou, 
Tingting Lei, 
Mahima Thapa, 
Rita E. Chen, 
James Brett Case, 
Fatima Amanat, 
Adriana M. Rauseo, 
Alem Haile, 
Xuping Xie, 
Michael K. Klebert, 
Teresa Suessen, 
William D. Middleton, 
Pei-Yong Shi, 
Florian Krammer, 
Sharlene A. Teefey, 
Michael S. Diamond, 
Rachel M. Presti & 
Ali H. Ellebedy 
Nature  596, 109–113 (2021)Cite this article
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2
 Our studies demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-based vaccination of humans induces a persistent germinal centre B cell response, which enables the generation of robust humoral immunity

False claim that Covid-19 shots undermine immune system spreads online
https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9UM9CC-1


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Post  planetcare Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:19 am

Firefly wrote:
Kon, are you sure immune suppression is not occurring or acquired following mRNA vaccination? Perhaps consider impartially the findings in this recent medical paper.

The Problem with Preprints
1 March 2022
By Aoife Gallagher
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In late January 2022, a preprint scientific paper published on ResearchGate started circulating within online communities associated with COVID-19, vaccine-scepticism and conspiracy theories. The title reads, ‘Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs’. The claims made in the abstract are quite scandalous. The research claims to prove that “vaccination, unlike natural infection, induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health”. It continues by saying that they also identified “profound potential disturbances” related to the vaccine and that these could have a “potentially direct causal link” to a range of different health defects, including Bell’s Palsy, myocarditis, liver disease and DNA damage.
The paper has four authors, including one name that might sound familiar given recent coverage of Joe Rogan’s platforming of COVID-19 and vaccine misinformation: Dr Peter McCullough. The paper is 35 pages long and contains over 200 citations. At a glance, it appears reputable. For those within COVID-19 and vaccine-sceptic communities, it seemed like the scientific research they were waiting for. Proof at last that the vaccines are doing more damage than good.
In just three weeks, the paper was read almost 250,000 times on ResearchGate (a site used by academics and scientists to share research), shared across dozens of groups on Facebook and Telegram, and promoted by anti-vaccine influencers to hundreds of thousands of people. This paper is part of a wider trend observed by ISD where highly flawed ‘research’ published as preprints, undertaken by credentialed individuals with a clear bias against COVID-19 vaccines, is used to spread anti-vaccine and COVID-denial claims to an unwitting audience.
Preprints are papers that have yet to go through the peer-review process, which is an integral element of any academic or scientific research. Peer-review normally takes place after a research paper is submitted to a journal for publication. Typically, the paper is sent out to a number of independent researchers in the same field who then scrutinise the work, including looking for flaws in the methodology, and assessing the validity of the claims laid out in the paper. The paper’s author(s) will then make revisions based on the peer-review process before the journal’s editor makes a decision on whether to publish it or not.

It’s also clear that the four authors of the report do not have relevant expertise in the fields of immunology or virology – the subject of the paper. This is particularly notable in the case of medical science, where expertise in one area most often does not translate to expertise in others.
https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/the-problem-with-preprints/


So firefly the paper you quote has not been peer reviewed and would  NOT be accepted by any reputable  scientific journal!

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Post  mbasko Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:47 am

Firefly wrote:
Kon61gold wrote:last conspiracy theory I heard were that covid were more connected with AIDS  no? Shocked  Laughing  What's next?
Conspiracy theorists wreak havoc with any story, not just the one story. As a matter of fact, they find it hard to get a good nights sleep without having fulfilled their daily rounds of conspiracy. Shocked V02 V04

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Kon, are you sure immune suppression is not occurring or acquired following mRNA vaccination? Perhaps consider impartially the findings in this recent medical paper.


https://www.thip.media/health-news-fact-check/fact-check-do-covid-vaccines-reduce-innate-immunity/30787/

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-vaccines-suppress-innate-immunity-increase-risk-to-infectious-disease-cancer.html

Some background on two of the authors:
"Peter McCullough has become a major force in promoting COVID-19 pseudoscience, quackery, and misinformation"
"Stephanie Seneff is the lead author of the paper that’s been going around. She was an antivaxxer before the pandemic who blamed vaccines and GMOs for autism; it’s not surprising that she pivoted to being anti-COVID-19 vaccines, although early in the pandemic she tried to blame glyphosate and e-cigarettes for COVID-19."
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Post  planetcare Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am

COVID-19 Is Caused by a Virus, Not Snake Venom
“The underlying notion that COVID-19 is caused by snake venom is simply untrue. Scientists across the globe have been studying SARS-CoV-2 — the virus that causes COVID-19 — for more than two years, and there is no question that the disease is caused by a virus.”
Watch the Water.” Apparently, Peters interviews a retired chiropractor named Bryan Ardis about  his theory that the CDC planted king cobra venom in COVID-19 vaccines and the water supply in order to transfer Satanic DNA to unsuspecting people.”  affraid
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/scicheck-covid-19-is-caused-by-a-virus-not-snake-venom/
Sadly we have the admin of another  gold "forum" lol!  who believes in this and other insane conspiracy theories!!!

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Post  adrian ss Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:20 pm

Satan & satanic  DNA does not exist in any snake or this world or any other world not yet discovered or any that have been discovered in this galaxy, Black Hole or universe or any other universe, or any parallel universe or 4th, 5th, 6th dimension. Q35 Q35 Q24 Q24 Q25 Q25 Q22 Q19
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Post  moredeep Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:26 pm

planetcare wrote:COVID-19 Is Caused by a Virus, Not Snake Venom
“The underlying notion that COVID-19 is caused by snake venom is simply untrue. Scientists across the globe have been studying SARS-CoV-2 — the virus that causes COVID-19 — for more than two years, and there is no question that the disease is caused by a virus.”
Watch the Water.” Apparently, Peters interviews a retired chiropractor named Bryan Ardis about  his theory that the CDC planted king cobra venom in COVID-19 vaccines and the water supply in order to transfer Satanic DNA to unsuspecting people.”  affraid
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/scicheck-covid-19-is-caused-by-a-virus-not-snake-venom/
Sadly we have the admin of another  gold "forum" lol!  who believes in this and other insane conspiracy theories!!!

Planet care; let's keep other forums business off this forum, there is enough venom circulating in the world at the moment.
Let's not bring their problems here.

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Post  Kon61gold Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:14 am

Agree with moredeep on that one. What ever goes on between members or Admin on any other forum, should stay on that forum & not be brought up here for criticism nor debate.
To right such things don't exist Adrian, but there are times when I do wonder, if I'm actually talking to a fellow human being or King Cobra lying in wait Shocked Q35

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