Eastern states prospectors ignoring the rules in wa.

fishberley wrote:Are more "Eastern State Prospectors" doing the wrong thing in W.A

or

more "Western Australian Prospectors" doing the wrong thing in W.A



Me thinks the answer is probably "about the same"

Me thinks the latter by far!
Sparrowfart

Jigalong wrote:I think Birdman is right.

Rich Eastern Staters are ripping off the gold that rightfully belongs to the struggling, scrupulously honest fossickers of WA. It stinks, so how should we stop it ? Charge Eastern Staters a special $1000 fossickers Licence, or maybe only let them remove one ounce of gold in any one month period ? Or maybe make it illegal for Eastern Staters to operate a detector in WA - that would fix the mongrels right up.

And while we are at it, it's an Eastern Sate company that is ripping the money out of Sandgropers, charging them $6500 for a detector.

The more I think about it, the angrier I get. We don't need them, or their thieving ways. Go Home.

yeah...and they all smell bad and have cooties!

I reckon Sparrowfart is right on the money. Eastern staters don't tow earth working machinery to the west to rob leases. Very few of them leave their camp site in a mess. I have seen old caravans, engines and enough spare parts to build a couple of holden motors scattered about some WA leaseholders old camps.

As for people helping local economies? Each eastern stater couple, and even WA grey nomads, spend far more money in WA than a a dozen small leasholders. As one local woman in Leonora said to me this year: the buggers come up from Perth towing their dinky tractors every month or two wearing a clean shirt and carrying a new $100 note and change neither while they are here.

The thing is, everyone is going to coninue detecting the west and like it or not they will wander on to small leases. WA lease holders better get used to putting up physical and visible boundaries to their leases. If they don't it is only a matter of time before one of them gets their pants sued off them. A grey nomad only has to fall over a scrape and break a leg and he/she can sue the lease holder for failing to provide any visible indication of a lease. If you don't believe that can happen talk to a lawyer, he will educate you.

Cheers, Jim

granite2 wrote:I reckon Sparrowfart is right on the money. Eastern staters don't tow earth working machinery to the west to rob leases. Very few of them leave their camp site in a mess. I have seen old caravans, engines and enough spare parts to build a couple of holden motors scattered about some WA leaseholders old camps.

As for people helping local economies? Each eastern stater couple, and even WA grey nomads, spend far more money in WA than a a dozen small leasholders. As one local woman in Leonora said to me this year: the buggers come up from Perth towing their dinky tractors every month or two wearing a clean shirt and carrying a new $100 note and change neither while they are here.

The thing is, everyone is going to coninue detecting the west and like it or not they will wander on to small leases. WA lease holders better get used to putting up physical and visible boundaries to their leases. If they don't it is only a matter of time before one of them gets their pants sued off them. A grey nomad only has to fall over a scrape and break a leg and he/she can sue the lease holder for failing to provide any visible indication of a lease. If you don't believe that can happen talk to a lawyer, he will educate you.

Cheers, Jim

Year I'm with you Jim, a star picket in each corner and some blue baler twine laid on the ground around the boundary would stop about 95% of easterners who might otherwise stray, from actually doing so. But it would make no difference to the locals jumping fences as presumably they actually know where they are not supposed to be! Presumably. Of course then it would be difficult to blame us all for it so they might not like that!
Sparrowfart

Crikey Birdman, seems like you have stirred up an Ants nest with this Topic!!

Some of the mentality amazes me. I was finding nuggets in WA in 1978 - 79 probably before a lot of you were born and certainly before a lot of those companies were ever formed. Since I was there first, I think you should all go home.

Just trying to maintain the level of this thread. (Low)

Panther

Jigalong wrote:I think Birdman is right.

Rich Eastern Staters are ripping off the gold that rightfully belongs to the struggling, scrupulously honest fossickers of WA. It stinks, so how should we stop it ? Charge Eastern Staters a special $1000 fossickers Licence, or maybe only let them remove one ounce of gold in any one month period ? Or maybe make it illegal for Eastern Staters to operate a detector in WA - that would fix the mongrels right up.

And while we are at it, it's an Eastern Sate company that is ripping the money out of Sandgropers, charging them $6500 for a detector.

The more I think about it, the angrier I get. We don't need them, or their thieving ways. Go Home.

Hey Jigalong , thought you were from NSW
Mark

Yes Mark, Jigalong is from NSW. When he talks about rich eastern staters ripping off WA gold he is talking about Victorians. This whole thread is about those Victorians isn't.

Tributer

i wish MY grandmother had found a 30kg nugget in WA.she loved me,she would have told me where she found it.
dave

I went to WA once met a lot of whingeing bastards and first day out picked up two nuggets off a legit spot..the locals hung **** on us cos we were from East..just shut me mouth and came home to a new 4wd.
Whats ironic is cos I wasnt staying there long I wanted to tell someone about that patch cos it was good but they were such jerks I did not bother, come to Vic with your detectors theres still plenty here and the locals appreciate the tourists and the CASH they spend.
ANYONE WANT SOME ADVICE I WILL GIVE IT TO YA.

G'day Gents.

Yes; I'm one of those so called Victorians and proud of it. I also abide by each States laws and regulations. The amount of money i spend on fuel,food,smokes and grog in the nearby towns i prospect in,would need an average minimum of 1/2 ounce of gold a week to just about cover costs.Not to mention any break downs. As for rich easterners yeah,i wish i were one of them,then it wouldn't take me a whole year to save $5000 in order to blow it all on a monthly trip,up WA.

Cheers kon61.

I don't fence jump!

I have short legs...I cut the wire







nah...made that up lol

Jigalong ... says in your tab there that you are from Sydney ??? is that in WA ....

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madtuna wrote:I don't fence jump!

I have short legs...I cut the wire








nah...made that up lol

Nice one Steve if I ever get down your way I will lift the wire for you Im tall.

no need mate...when I'm in WA flogging all Birdmans gold I'm going to flog his gyrocopter too I'll even give you a dink over the wire!

https://golddetecting.forumotion.net/general-discussion-f1/gyrocopters-t2533.htm#20829

cheers ....... look forward to it

madtuna

I came across a fence one night, couldn't go over it, couldn't go under it.....so I fell asleep next to it.
Woke up the next morning 15 feet off the Windsor Rd across from the Tourmaline.

The closest thing to gold in that era/area was anyone with a penadol.

PS. the Tourmaline was a well known night club/pub in the Hawksberry region NSW.

PSS, I'll be one of those easterners next season bouncing off the fence lines of WA lease holders, and may become one of them, so bugger off you eastern state thieving bastards!!

artrix wrote:

madtuna wrote:I don't fence jump!

I have short legs...I cut the wire


nah...made that up lol

Nice one Steve if I ever get down your way I will lift the wire for you Im tall.

Are you 2 going to meet up at Daylesford?

Artrix, Steve likes to spoon remember, lol, but if you going to bend over for him and hold the wire.... he might just jump the wrong thing


Here's what happened to a eastern states roo that jumped a WA fence...

I did not intend to stir this much controversey. It is just the ones that come over outnumber us and have all the latest gear, best 4wd solar powered caravan and minelab detectors.

Probably jealousy on my part having an inferior rig.

i guess i understand how the fisherman feel about the indonesians feel in a way.

i guess we all get frustrated with tengraph it is hard and limiting, but I think if it is a battler who owns the lease at least talk to the caretaker first and ask for permission. Or file a 20A.

Some stockbroker sitting on 1000's of ks of land is making it difficult for many of us, but hey thats why we have 20A's

you don't need all the good top gear to find gold.... a friend off mine has a sd 2100 and he still finds good gold with it.
cheers
stoppsy

It is refreshing to hear.

It is very tough when you are in a 48 dollar tent trying to find some extra dollars for a punctured tyre, when you look at the people next to you with a massive caravan, satellite dish and the latest 4wd with melbourne number plates bragging about how they pick up .2 of a gram nuggets.

while a local is planning meticulousy 20a and paying for it on the hope that they will find it.

Let them have the .2 gram ones... I go for bigger than that. lol

Panther

it's not what you own it's how proud you are off it. they might have the big set up but is it paid for? i would love to go to W.A detecting but i lost my job and i don't have any money going into my bank. the wife is the one that works and we live off that. this is the reason i detect. to find gold so i have a sort off a wage again.
cheers
stoppsy

What you should be doing birdman is setting up a guide sevice and charging the caravan nomads a good price for showing them around.

I think you are onto something there. It is better to have legitamite gold tourists, it would be up to me to a deal with the caretakers then with an agreement.

When somebody comes from outside and illegally strikes off a a patch and cleans it out with a chain then everyone misses out.

better to share the fun have a hundred people from the eastern states walk away with 100 small pieces rather than 1 lucky illegal eastern stater clean out the lot illegally.

Eco gold tourism is it possible? Everyone is happy then, unfortunately it is one of those things their is only so much to be found.

I think the best part of it is the exercise of prospecting for a grey nomad as well, better than golf, if you can add value with a bit of a talk on the wildflowers as well why not

Ive been doing this a long time and personally I dont jump claims. What we do need is more rights over land that big corporations and paper shufflers sit on and we cant access.

Birdman. can I ask how you know (seemingly) the majority of easterners are there illegally plundering the gold that rightfully is yours?
Have you sighted thier 20a's and seen thier permission letters?

Or is it just thier shiney 4x4's, big vans with sat dishes and that they're sporting interstate plates that must mean they're illegal?

p.s. a bunch of kiddies in Indonesia would give thier right arm for a $48 tent right about now.

I think a lot of nomads that rock up dont know where to go or what is legal so just pitch anywhere, if youre not a pro its hard to determine at times where is ok and where is not.

believe me i have looked at tags from asx companies, yes i would have loved to been on that ground but had to turn the car back.

Now, i have to pay for 3km geticulate blocks to prospect on.... 3km only how many, 20a's do i have to file on 3700 square kilometer lease from an asx company.... it is much easier just to speck the ground and then go for a snatch and grab like an interstate tourist. However i do the honourable thing.

Frustrating when you have to pay 20a's when someone else does not.