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Post  planetcare on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:24 pm

granite2 wrote:Planetcare, where have you been living the last few years? It obviously wasn't on this planet. You are talking as if we live in the 1950's The new nuclear that is going to power most of our world in Small Nuclear Reactors. SMRs are just about ready to go. I won't try to educate you because that would be like trying to make a stubborn child eat his peas but SMRs are small, clean, cheaper to build per kW hour than wind turbines, I disregard solar because it only works a few hours a day, SMRs are reliable, safe and modular. Being modular each component can be built in a factory,assmbled and trucked to the building site where they are installed. They can be sited next to old coal power stations and hooked straight into the grid. More modules can be added as required. In this way they are built and installed quite quickly and quickly bring a return to the investor. Unlike the nuclear power plants of old.

PC, if you had a look at SMR technology you might realise that wind and solar are going to very soon become the Model T' of the energy world. After all, wind power has been around as long as electricity. I remember seeing wind turbines on farms when  was a kid 70 years ago. Solar only works at best, half the time and batteries will never be able to power a city. I await your reply, hopefully after you have done some research.

Show me where these SMR's are now commercially operating and your sources for "but SMRs are small, clean, cheaper to build per kW hour than wind turbines"

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Post  granite2 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:32 pm

PC, are you to lazy to do your own research? I thought so, here's a bit to chew on, hopefully your head won't explode.

Nuclear power is already making a vital contribution to reliable, affordable and low-emissions power systems in 31 other countries. Australia’s power system must be reliable, affordable and sustainable. Whilst maintaining high reliability, Australia has to successfully make the transition of its power system to a more affordable system with lower emissions. In the long run, there may be only four practical technologies available for low-emissions power systems: hydro, solar PV, wind and nuclear power. Nuclear power is the only one of these that is not weather-dependent. Nuclear power has high reliability and generates close-to-zero emissions. The high capital cost of traditional large-scale reactors may make them unfeasible in Australia but the advent of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) with their lower capital cost and an operating life of up to 80 years is likely to make them a game-changer in Australia. SMRs that would be very suitable for Australia are at an advanced stage of development in several countries. They are designed to be inherently safe. One of the most advanced designs is that of NuScale Power of the US (referred to as NuScale throughout this submission). www.nuscalepower.com Australia has over 60 years’ experience in operating research reactors. A nuclear reactor currently operating in Australia is the 20 MWTh OPAL multi-purpose reactor (for research and manufacture of medical products) operated by the Australian
SMR Nuclear Technology Pty Lt dwww.smrnuclear.com.auABN: 88 160 242 4282Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation (ANSTO) at Lucas Heights, Sydney www.ansto.gov.au Modern SMRs could be the lowest cost generation available in Australia because of their contribution to power system reliability. Power industry infrastructure, particularly involving nuclear power, is more valuable to the economy than other forms of infrastructure, such as transport, because it provides energy security, generates a return on investment and provides both short and long-term flow-on effects in regional development, not the least being employment opportunities. Nuclear power generates ionising radiation, exposure to which is harmful to human health. This explains why nuclear safety is non-negotiable and requires strong regulation by a specialist regulatory agency. In Australia’s case, this is provided by the Australian Radiation and Nuclear Protection Agency (ARPANSA), a world-class regulator established under Commonwealth law www.arpansa.org.au. ARPANSA leads the development of industry codes and best practice in Australia. The operation of nuclear power plants for power generation does not enable the use of nuclear weapons nor does it in any way condone or facilitate the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the world. Australia signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) in 1970
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Post  planetcare on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:35 pm

granite2 wrote:PC you say climate change is not natural??? I'd like to know then what caused all the climate changes we have already had. EG the last ice age and the following, continuing warming that has been going on ever since.


Past climate changes have been caused by many things, like massive volcanic eruptions, asteroid impacts.plate tectonics, changes in the suns solar output and orbital effect like milankovitch cycles.The ice age cycles for at least the last 800,000 years are predominately driven by orbital effects and changes in atmospheric C02 levels. The present rate of warming is 5-10 X faster than when the world has in the past emerged from ice ages!

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Post  planetcare on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:39 pm

granite2 wrote:PC, are you to lazy to do your own research? I thought so, here's a bit to chew on, hopefully your head won't explode.

 Nuclear power is already making a vital contribution to reliable, affordable and low-emissions power systems in 31 other countries.    Australia’s power system must be reliable, affordable and sustainable. Whilst maintaining high reliability, Australia has to successfully make the transition of its power system to a more affordable system with lower emissions.   In the long run, there may be only four practical technologies available for low-emissions power systems: hydro, solar PV, wind and nuclear power.   Nuclear power is the only one of these that is not weather-dependent.   Nuclear power has high reliability and generates close-to-zero emissions. The high capital cost of traditional large-scale reactors may make them unfeasible in Australia but the advent of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) with their lower capital cost and an operating life of up to 80 years is likely to make them a game-changer in Australia.   SMRs that would be very suitable for Australia are at an advanced stage of development in several countries. They are designed to be inherently safe. One of the most advanced designs is that of NuScale Power of the US (referred to as NuScale throughout this submission). www.nuscalepower.com   Australia has over 60 years’ experience in operating research reactors. A nuclear reactor currently operating in Australia is the 20 MWTh OPAL multi-purpose reactor (for research and manufacture of medical products) operated by the Australian
SMR Nuclear Technology Pty Lt dwww.smrnuclear.com.auABN: 88 160 242 4282Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation (ANSTO) at Lucas Heights, Sydney www.ansto.gov.au   Modern SMRs could be the lowest cost generation available in Australia because of their contribution to power system reliability.   Power industry infrastructure, particularly involving nuclear power, is more valuable to the economy than other forms of infrastructure, such as transport, because it provides energy security, generates a return on investment and provides both short and long-term flow-on effects in regional development, not the least being employment opportunities.    Nuclear power generates ionising radiation, exposure to which is harmful to human health. This explains why nuclear safety is non-negotiable and requires strong regulation by a specialist regulatory agency. In Australia’s case, this is provided by the Australian Radiation and Nuclear Protection Agency (ARPANSA), a world-class regulator established under Commonwealth law www.arpansa.org.au. ARPANSA leads the development of industry codes and best practice in Australia.    The operation of nuclear power plants for power generation does not enable the use of nuclear weapons nor does it in any way condone or facilitate the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the world. Australia signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT)  in 1970

So none these SMR's are yet operating commercially!

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Post  granite2 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:43 pm

Only in Russia so far but I see you still won't push the Research button😄
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Post  planetcare on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:30 pm

granite2 wrote:Only in Russia so far but I see you still won't push the Research button😄
I will stick with mature and proven technologies.


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Post  planetcare on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:41 pm

Small modular reactor rhetoric hits a hurdle
Even with heroic assumptions resulting in CSIRO/AEMO’s low-cost estimate of A$129 per MWh for SMRs in 2030, the cost is still far higher than the low-cost estimates for wind with two hours of battery storage (A$64), wind with six hours of pumped hydro storage (A$86), solar PV with two hours of battery storage (A$52) or solar PV with six hours of pumped hydro storage (A$84).
Wherever you look, there’s nothing to justify the hype of SMR enthusiasts
https://reneweconomy.com.au/small-modular-reactor-rhetoric-hits-a-hurdle-62196/


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Post  granite2 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:48 pm

Trust you PC to look only on the anti nuke sites. I've looked at those too and their arguments against SMR technology are pathetic and childish. You only choose to be negative and I don't discuss anything with negative people anymore, life is too short.
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Post  Kon61gold on Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:11 pm

C'mon fellas let it go & one step at a time. The world is trying to find a workable solution of how to live & work within a COVID-19 environment, in order to get our economy somehow, safely back on track.
This is our main priority at the moment, not arguing over who's more in the right or wrong about the introduction/use of nuclear generated power & or the good/bad & ugly associated with such.

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Post  DrDuck on Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:29 am

You know, I've seen posts from Planetcare across a number of prospecting forums.  He may even have been banned from Finders, which is quite an achievement, and has been banned from at least one other forum.

Most have been about the virus, renewable energy and climate change, and funnily enough, I have never seen a post about prospecting.

Let's see a pic with your pans, detector and gold old mate!
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Post  Kon61gold on Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:02 pm

Listen fellas, I allow more Off Topic discussion &  freedom of speech on this forum, than many other forums care to allow, but I will put an end to any discussion that steps out of place, contradicting the rules of this forum.
BTW DrDuck & although you can bet I follow what goes on on other sites, I care little about what management of other forum websites, decide to do, allow or not allow to take place on their own forums, for they are the ones in charge of what goes on their own forums not I. What I don't much appreciate is anyone bringing up for discussion, any post of information from another forum to this forum, about someone or some topic, to be discussed in a negative way between members on this forum. What goes on, is said, or has happened on other forums, with all due respect, should stay on other forums. My only concern is what goes on this forum.
Most gold detecting/prospecting forums have slowed down dramatically because of the current circumstances/pandemic that has taken hold, throwing the whole world in turmoil, placing the worlds nations/people under extreme duress/stress & tense times, or we would have had a lot more gold finds put up by detectorists, for all to see.
A vaccine to this pandemic is not far away from becoming a reality now & if we Australians have endured this far, surely we can endure a few months more, in order to keep this virus at bay & deaths to a minimum, till a safe/more reassuring way out is found.
People can curse the current government for their right or wrong ways as to the handling of this pandemic, but we all know this dangerous virus has not gone away because of the current government procedures put in place, but more awaiting to rear its ugly head, the moment restrictions are lifted. We're damned if we do & damned if we don't.

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Post  moredeep on Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:18 pm

Q33 Q36

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Post  adrian ss on Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:01 pm

Interesting reading here.
Seems there were 1000 fewer Aged Care Home deaths in Australia during the pandemic period to date than for the same period last year due to the flu.
If there was fewer deaths this pandemic period to date then you would think that the covid-19, supposedly being far more deadly than the flu that there would be even more deaths due to covid 19 this year than what the flu would normally have caused.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/aged-care-deaths-fall-during-pandemic-with-influenza-at-record-lows-20200912-p55uzt.html


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Post  planetcare on Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:06 am

adrian ss wrote:Interesting reading here.
Seems there were 1000 fewer Aged Care Home deaths in Australia during the pandemic period to date than for the same period last year due to the flu.
If there was fewer flu deaths then you would think that the covid-19, supposedly being far more deadly than the flu that there would be even more deaths due to covid 19 this year than what the flu would normally have caused.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/aged-care-deaths-fall-during-pandemic-with-influenza-at-record-lows-20200912-p55uzt.html

If it was not for the lock downs and other measures then the death toll in aged care and in the community would have potentially been in the thousands .Covid is more deadly than than the flu for vulnerable people because we have no herd immunity to it unlike the flu where due to vaccination their is very substantial herd immunity.

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