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Post  adrian ss on Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:36 am

Here in the ACT Canberra we are being told that our air pollution levels are 10 times the safe level.
My Air Quality instrument which measures the level of airborne CO2, Formaldehyde and some other poisonous gasses has not shown anything dangerous during  the past three days. Maybe my instrument is out of cal but I doubt it.

We are also being told that Australia has the worst atmospheric pollution levels in the world.
I think you will find that those estimates are based on per head of population. Well I guess if you jam packed all of our population and pollution into a tight bundle then you may be correct, but the fact is that our population and industrial areas is small, spread far and wide and the pollution is spread over the entire country. If that is taken into consideration then you would be hard pressed to even read our over all pollution levels compared to the likes of China and India, America.
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Post  Travelergold on Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:53 am

Adrian, my take is that the forrest fire smoke would be no where near as dangerous as the china city fumes smoke by a long shot. It is only the houses that have burnt and tyres ect that would be the real toxic part of polution.
Yes visibility is poor, but in a dust storm the air could be just as bad as forrest smoke. Just my thoughts.

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Post  adrian ss on Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:11 pm

My eyes have been a bit itchy during the heavy pollution levels that Canberra has experienced but that is all. No coughing fits or skin reactions. I could actually taste it for a few days and my smoke alarms went of once.
I was told by our chemist that there were some toxic gasses mixed up with the smoke in our area. The air was a bit thick for a couple of days when visibility out of my front room window was down to approx 1/4 klm.
When I wiped our wall hung photo's and paintings down the other day they were definitely covered in a dark fine deposit from the smoke.
We did buy some masks but have not  used them yet. Too late now I guess. Lungs will already be black. pale

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Post  adrian ss on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:42 am

So everybody has been waiting for rain and the BOM reckoned that Canberra would receive 2.5 mm rain on the 16 Jan.
My back yard received 24 mm in as many minutes that day not including the hail. Short and sweet, but at least some rain did fall in the fire zones
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Post  adrian ss on Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:30 am

Here is some interesting info (If true and accurate) will be of interest to the climate change and global warming advocates.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/CarbonCycle/page5.php

Another interesting point of interest.

Water vapour and clouds account for 66 to 85 percent of the greenhouse effect, compared to a range of 9 to 26 percent for CO2.


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Post  geof_junk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:31 am

A very interesting article Adrain and well presented
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Post  adrian ss on Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:24 am

If Australia shifts to 100% so called renewable energy from batteries, wind farms & solar panels.
What do we do with the solar panels when they reach their end of life date....Like I mean there will be billions of useless solar panels and then there is all of those toxic tesla batteries. How long do wind farm rotor blades last and then what do you do with them after they fatigue and break.

In order to keep producing these things, continuing mining activities will be required to produce the materials to manufacture these items which means we will need petrol, oil, diesel to run the machinery to carry out the mining activity, or we go back to pick and shovel digging, which will mean that a large live in on site work force will be required and they will all have to be fed which means that food will have to be shipped to the site which will mean that transport will be required, either that or bring back the camel trains which means, which means, which means and on and on it goes.



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Post  moredeep on Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:02 pm

Jeez I need a beer after reading that to relax,unfortunately beer makes me produce methane,that'll just add to the problem,bugger I'm going to have one anyway Laughing


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Post  boobook on Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:45 am

It's sometimes difficult to imagine the amount of moisture in the atmosphere, for example, assuming Adrian's backyard is 25m. x 25m. and on 16th. Jan. he had 24 (25) mm of rain in 24 (25) minutes, then......
25x25 = 625 m2 x 0.025m. = 15.625 m3
With water being 1000l./m3 then 15.625 x 1000 = 15625 l. of water fell from the sky onto Adrian's back yard in 25 minutes. Multiply this by 16 means 250,000 litres of water per Hectare in a mere 25 minutes of precipitation.
We had a recent rainfall band of approx. 95 km x 30 km. when (av.) 15 mm. of rain occurred over 18 hrs. This equates to 42,750,000 m3 or 2,375,000 litres per hour over that area.
The atmosphere just cant simply "make" water, I suppose what goes up, must then come down. Smile


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Post  Reg Wilson on Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:47 pm

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Post  moredeep on Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:17 pm

Makes you think.
The other clip about Timor gas is a rippa as well.

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Post  adrian ss on Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:17 am


The only thing that she  said that was accurate was. Get FKN used to it.
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Post  granite2 on Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:59 pm

All good now the rain has come, as it always does. The fires are mostly out and the burned country is beginning to show green everywhere. Saw a photo of a burned yakka bush on Kangaroo Island the other day. it had grown lush and green at least half a metre already.

Now all we have to do is ignore the media who keeps telling us how bad the rain is and not how much good it is doing.
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Post  adrian ss on Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:35 pm

The media always focus on tragedy.
Wherever there is good they will find a negative and zero in on it.
If a Journo is doing an interview they will try to get the person being interviewed to cry or stress out at every opportunity. They seem to get a kick out of doing that.
I reckon they have bets between each other to see who can trigger the most sobbing.
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