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Post  Jigalong on Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:33 pm

I heard it somewhere (I think !) or was I / am I, having an old person's moment.

It's a rainy Boxing Day morning here in Sidknee. I am just sitting here trying to figure out how I can dispose of 2 KG of prawn heads, which will be pretty high by the time the garbage is taken away.

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Post  Guest on Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:29 am

Hi Jig's, I think it was Madtuna that said he was waiting for the book.
My prawn waste goes to the compost.
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Post  scruffy_hair86 on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:02 am

Jigalong wrote:I heard it somewhere (I think !) or was I / am I, having an old person's moment.

It's a rainy Boxing Day morning here in Sidknee. I am just sitting here trying to figure out how I can dispose of 2 KG of prawn heads, which will be pretty high by the time the garbage is taken away.

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Freeze em for now buddy, throw em when the time is right.
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Post  Jigalong on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:06 am

Thanks guys. I can't put them in the compost as there is also 6 doz oyster shells in the mix and the whole package is too large too go into our freezer. Getting smelly !
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Post  Guest on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:08 am

Yeah, you can smash up the oyster shells as they are a good source of calcium for the plants.
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Post  Fly_Dirt on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:34 am

I pick out all the heads and freeze them. Excellent fishing bait/burley.

Or apparently you can put them in your neighbour's bin.......I still haven't discovered the culprit who did that to me last Christmas. Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Guest on Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:26 am

Got any neighbours that you don't like He He He

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Post  Guest on Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:21 am

[quote="Fly_Dirt"]

Or apparently you can put them in your neighbour's bin.......I still haven't discovered the culprit who did that to me last Christmas. Evil or Very Mad


Sure glad i don't live in your street '' Fly dirt'' affraid
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Post  Jigalong on Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:05 am

I took your advice and put them in a neighbours bin. She was a bit startled when I walked into her kitchen, but it all worked out OK.

Now I just have to wait for Tuna to haul his arse back from Hill End, to tell me about the new book.

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Post  GoldstalkerGPX on Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:06 am

G'day Jig, not sure about the NSW book but I believe he is working on a relic hunting book.


Thats about all the info I have....other than depending on how much you dislike your neighbor, I hear evap air-con's work better than bins Laughing or from what I read last night curtain rods aswell affraid

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Post  nero_design on Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:21 am

Apart from my own publication, Doug's doing an updated chapter on NSW for the next edition of his Gold & Relics book. His maps for Hill End & Sofala were in the stores a couple of weeks ago. Some of the locals in Sofala are already a little "unhappy" to hear their properties are listed as "Crown Land" on the maps. Of course, there's a disclaimer in the lower LH corner of the maps. Small stampede headed to Hill End already based on his mini-maps. The weather should keep some of them at bay.
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Post  GoldstalkerGPX on Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:25 am


Marco, Not familiar with your publications...(shed some light?)

The Relic book I refer to is not to be confused with the Gold & Relic publication.
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Post  nero_design on Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:54 am

GoldstalkerGPX wrote:
Marco, Not familiar with your publications...(shed some light?)

The Relic book I refer to is not to be confused with the Gold & Relic publication.

Hi Goldstalker. I've been working on a book since 2006 now that relates to the region to the West of Sydney - pretty much the commonly visited locations... it's by no means as comprehensive as "The Glint of Gold". I'm still a few months from completion but I'm also working on it when I can spare the time as I have other activities that hold priority. Since I'm not in a hurry, I'm afraid that I tend to just take my time on these things. It was mentioned last week which is why I brought it up just now. The software I'm using is having trouble with all the image files I've embedded so it's being assembled in 5 parts. You folks are fairly familiar with these areas so it probably won't be of much interest to locals.

Doug was doing a more in-depth chapter on NSW for an upcoming edition of his G&R book last I heard. He's also doing a NSW series if fold-out maps similar to what has been released for Victoria. I was asked to supply him with material for his Hill End research but didn't get the opportunity. Was given the impression that he needed information at the time (about 5 months ago) for the region and was coming in "blind" - something supported by his lack of NSW information in previous publications. I have no knowledge of an independent publication on NSW that he might be working on. He certainly might be but this is the first I've heard of it.

A belated Merry Christmas all...
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Post  Hotrocks on Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:46 pm

I recall that some time ago David De Havelland (Patches1) of Gold and Ghosts fame had completed a Gold and Ghosts edition for NSW. I cannot recall if it was published or made available but I do recall seeing several articles on NSW locations on the net being excerpts from, I think, Vol 5 Gold and Ghosts.
Please correct me if I am in error and apologies to D.De H if I am


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Post  Jigalong on Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:31 pm

OK guys, thanks for all the info. I am off to bed.
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:40 am

Hi Jigs... Doug was at HE a few months back... not sure if it's a book or just maps...Give Kim or Link a ring at NuggetsFromDownUnder who were with him at the time

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Post  Jigalong on Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:10 am

Success for the pelagic detector at HE ?
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Post  jeddi on Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:10 am

Is David De Havelland (Patches1) of Gold and Ghosts fame still a member ? - Patches1 is not on the member list

Hotrocks wrote:I recall that some time ago David De Havelland (Patches1) of Gold and Ghosts fame had completed a Gold and Ghosts edition for NSW. I cannot recall if it was published or made available but I do recall seeing several articles on NSW locations on the net being excerpts from, I think, Vol 5 Gold and Ghosts.
Please correct me if I am in error and apologies to D.De H if I am


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Post  Jigalong on Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:10 am

I purchased a new map from Nuggets Downunder at Mudgee "Gold and Relics Sites - metal detecting map with notes - Sofala Wattle Flat Goldfield" by Douglas M Stone.

It is a good map of the area.

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Post  nero_design on Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:09 am

The maps Doug has used are unfortunately depicting many areas as "accessible" which are in some cases occupied with homes or a property. There's a visible disclaimer in the bottom left hand corner of these maps which says in essence that the details of the map may be inaccurate and that it's up to you to do the legwork to find out if you're on private property (or similar). A few residents from Sofala and Hill End bought the maps solely to show their neighbors and have already voiced considerable anger and surprise at the information shown. This would suggest that map users show caution when turning up in some regions of these maps. There's also a few heritage protected areas that he has failed to mark as 'inaccessible'. Some of the Crown Land has since been leased to individuals as well.

The maps are useful for those persons unable to figure out how to locate crown land by themselves but Sofala shows up on his maps as pretty much one, big, gigantic "Common Area" whereas there are in reality one or two VERY small strips of Crown Land remaining there. Some of these lots are landlocked meaning that access will require permission to cross another person's property to get to it. The locals are anticipating a lot of trespassers this coming year as a result of those two maps. One person (who reads this forum) that lives on one of those maps tells me the locals are a little like Meerkats when a vehicle rolls up ...and they get on the phones and call each other up to see if the person there is supposed to be there. That's normal behavior for the area due to trouble from city folk and this becomes more concentrated towards Hargraves. Even the Hill Enders claim that most of the trouble out that way is from out-of-towners so they keep an eye out for each other.

To those who are headed out that way: Be sure to cross reference your maps with a more recent document or try to speak to the locals if you're not sure about anything. Many are shutting down access to properties solely as a result of the fencejumpers that are ruining it for everyone else.
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Post  skysite on Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:02 am

Marco
Reading your post about hill end and have read a few of your older posts I'm not sure why you are telling people that it's not safe to go there ?
I have been camping at hill end and surrounds for at least 15 years and not once have I seen or had any trouble there. The local people have always been friendly and gone out of there way to make us feel welcome I not sure where you are getting your information but it is wrong I even had karren from the local shop show me some good spots to do a bit of panning.
I have only been prospecting for a little over a year and had not only out-of towers as you say give me great advise but the locals as well. As for cross referencing maps on the area it's called common sense something I think your lacking mate.
I can say as an Australian hill end is the best holiday any true bushy with a little common sense will have and if your looking for a town frozen in time this is the place.
I hope for hill ends sake Marco your book does not send out bad messages as the visitors are helping the town to survive.
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Post  Jigalong on Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:30 am

Is it possible to get an on-line map with up-to-date information on Reserves and Crown Land ? I had a look a while ago and could find little info.

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:38 am

And yeah Marco, when your book hits the shelves I hope you're up to an online critique without a massive meltdown and dummy spit. Going by your posts here about the area make sure it's on the same shelf they stock Mad Magazine or atleast in the Fiction section Very Happy

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Post  Narrawa on Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:09 pm

skysite, The shop Karen runs is a treasure trove of goodies, camping stuff the works, and would have to be the best place in the central west to get a gas bottle filled.
She is gem to have a chat to, thats fore sure.

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Post  skysite on Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:46 pm

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That's the shop mate it's a good little shop has everything to get you out of trouble Wink
She is a lovely lady as are all the people in town...
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Post  Fly_Dirt on Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:54 am

The Doug Stone map is great, in that it puts on one nicely folded piece of paper, the location of the old diggings and mines. Nothing you couldn’t find out for yourself if you did some research of historical records.
I have a copy of the Sofala-Wattle Flat map and I am referring to this map only in this post.

The map comes with a disclaimer:
“Outdoor Press gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or currency of the Metal Detecting Map nor does it warrant that the Map identifies all features of the subject area. Prospectors should be away that gold metal and relics exploration areas may contain hidden dangers and should exercise caution in undertaking exploration activity. Outdoor Press is not liable for any loss, damage, expense or cost incurred or suffered by any person relying of this Metal Detecting Map.
This map does not imply public access to all areas shown of this Map. It is the prospector’s responsibility to seek permission to enter and/or undertake metal exploration activity on the land areas from the relevant owner, occupier or Authority.”


CAUTION – TAKE NOTE: The map shows 4wd tracks. At least three of the tracks shown, I know are not for public access. One "track" goes to my neighbour’s front door and another through his sheep paddock where some very nice diggings are located. Since 2004 there has been a “buy-back” scheme for landholders that have Crown Roads going through their property. Three of my neighbours have bought their “4wd tracks”. I know this because I received the advice from the Land and Property Management Authority in December 2010. Many other locals could be in the process of doing the same. http://www.lpma.nsw.gov.au/crown_lands/roads

Even if you were to travel on the “tracks” that have not been bought and are still Crown Land, in many cases the land either side of the tracks is private property, whether fenced or not. Unless you have the permission of the landowner, if you got out of your vehicle for a look around, you would be trespassing.

It’s the old story, that those people, the one’s without common sense and courtesy spoil it for the rest.

You cannot just drive where ever you like, without doing some research yourself and the courtesy of seeking permission from property owners. Waving a copy of the map at an irate landowner is not tantamount to showing the policeman your license.

Confronting a trespasser is both awkward and embarrassing for both the landowner and the culprit. I should know, I’ve had to do it three times in the last few months, and another neighbour complained of a 4wd with a solar panel on top, driving through his property, leaving a gate open.

I’m writing this not to deter people from buying the map, far from it. The map is an excellent modern record for anyone who wants to know the history of where NSW gold was found. The diggings are still there, but the property boundaries/ownership has and will continue to change. Old gold towns are well worth the look. The town folk and local traders are friendly and welcome tourists – it’s good for business – they will also tell you where to fossick. On the other hand, go to the pub and ask the serious digger where he’s getting his gold from and see if you get a straight answer.

Of course I’m writing this with a smile. lol!

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Post  Jigalong on Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:53 am

Sound advice, thanks Fly_Dirt.
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Post  Narrawa on Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:20 pm

......and another neighbour complained of a 4wd with a solar panel on top, driving through his property, leaving a gate open. Exactly where a bouts on the roof was this penal located? front, back, canopy ect ect and what color was this 4x4? Laughing

I can never be blamed for leaving a gate open, im the driver, and never leave my vehicle to open a gate..........thats my partners job!! blame her. lol!


All jokes aside, i only detect at HE, and have not been to any areas east of HE, but i do have a penal on my 4x4s roof.
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Post  Jigalong on Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:39 pm

When you say you have a "penal" on your roof, what exactly do you mean ?
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Post  Narrawa on Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:45 am

Jigalong wrote:When you say you have a "penal" on your roof, what exactly do you mean ?
You tell me, what you think i mean? Razz
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