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Post  G.B. on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:05 am

I am keeping my 4500 plus getting a GPZ7000 what will you do
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Post  pablop on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:15 am

I need to see what I can do over time with the SDC before forking out for something twice that price, or more.

I have got more from the pan than the SDC and need to start working in different areas.
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Post  Alwaysback on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:28 am

The run has started on 5000's being put on sale. There will be some bargains to be had for the Early Birds who don't already have one.
The Price will drop away rapidly when the new 7000 comes out.
What will you do, sell now and wait or miss the boat.
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Post  avon g on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:32 am

mark me down for the "i'd absolutely love one but no way i'll be able to afford it" option.

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Post  kon61 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:43 am

Forking out what ever it costs is one thing,finding out the GPZ's overall performance over any ground is a minimal jump over that of the 4500/5000 detectors,using similar size coils,will be heart breaking.After all,this is new detecting technology we're talking about? It not only has to be good,but far better than previous models.
I know most would want to grab one ASAP and go hit their old flogged gold haunts,before anybody else does,by all means go for it,but I think I'll reserve my vote,till I can get my hands on one and do a side x side comparison over various types/size gold targets/ground.
Wise move G.B keeping your 4500 to compare with before parting with it,for no one knows another's detector,better than the one who's had a while testing/using it.

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Post  ruffles on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:59 am

I have a few friends that will be buying one and will have
the opportunity to test before before purchasing

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Post  kevlorraine2 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:10 pm

yes KON i also will be keeping my 5000 until i can see if the 7000 is worth upgrading to.

i have never chased the fly shite, so the 2300 was of no interest to me. the new EMI was also not a big problem where i detect. the mineralisation in qld is not a real problem like vic. i really dont want wifi headphones, got a gps, and the large super D coil has got to be heavier at the "wrong" end.

the only possible plus will be the depth advantage, if there is one. i can wait to see if that is actually true.

i still cant hear a definate yes that this 7000 is "the top of the range" new invention, OR that talked about machine is yet to come later in the year. does anybody know for sure? ... kev

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:15 pm

I already traded in one of my gpx5000s a couple months ago in anticipation of the new release V22 got a $5000 trade in so was very happy.
Now the missus can use the other gpx while I go digging craters with the new one V11 V18


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Post  kevlorraine2 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:32 pm

thanks GOLDGEO i would hate to get the 7000 and then find out within the year that it was just the experimental midrange 5000/2300 combo with the yet unproven zvt technology. the clincher will be the depth advantage. if in fact it doesnt live up to the hype, there are going to be a lot of red faces around. (their 20% skite of previous machines was achieved via quieter and targeted modes, if you knew how to use them. this 40% gain with less fiddles is a huge claim) ... kev

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Post  Digginerup on Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:34 pm

What will they cost?,  what will a 5000 be worth for a trade in one ? I suspect there will be an initial flurry of activity but as always the level of detector operators out there is not set by the availability of machines or their cost but by the level of those willing to work for the gold, many will buy as they have with the 5000 but its not for the faint hearted and many will sell just as quick as they bought...if they can, when the reality of the game hits home Wink .

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Post  Ash100456 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:07 pm

Going to get the newbie as soon as they come out, On the list. Hopefully before we head off. Hanging onto our current detectors
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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:10 pm

No good trying to trade a 5000 now mate, spoke with minersden and they said they would not be taking them, they don't want to get stuck with hundreds of them. Private sale is the only option now. Although they did say they would be providing 3 month interest free finance to give people time to get the cash together from selling there gpx, gold etc.
Lucky I got in early Basketball
I'm pretty confident the new machine will be the goods. Those worried about comparison tests with same sized coils aren't looking at it right. The new super D coil is taking advantage of new technology which will enable it to punch through the mineralized ground that even the 5000 couldn't tame.
All this mono/dd , bigger coil talk is irrelevant when your talking new technology.

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Post  Redfin on Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:23 pm

Already on the list for one and keeping the 5000 so we can both hunt new ground.
Keeping the 2300 so we can both go out in inclement weather.
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Post  gold-fever on Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:40 pm

Has anyone ever considered that this sort of marketing is just a way that a company can judge exactly how much they can slug you. Don't feed them.

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Post  GoldHound on Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:17 pm

I'll be keeping our two 5000s until we see how the new one goes as its new tech.
As maybe the old 5000 will still have its place in the arsenal or maybe it will be rendered obsolete by the 7000.
I'll find out soon enough.
Minelab is the only brand I would trust to buy without testing beforehand as every detector I have bought in the past has been better than the last and lived up to their performance claims.
I can hardly contain my excitement I can't wait to swing a new detector!
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Post  angus on Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:24 pm

I'm guessing that you will have to dig 40% deeper into your pocket for the new GPZ, so there's a 40% chance I will have the 40% extra spondoolys required .
So I will probably have to work 40% harder and save 40% more and be 40% nicer to the good wife before im in with a shot.
But I will wait 40% longer till 40% of you guy get them and listen to about 40% of what people have to say and disregard the other 40%.
So I guess im a 40%er   Wink
Keepin the SDC 100%
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Post  kon61 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:30 pm

On the contrary goldgeo,all things are relevant,when it comes to the legitimacy of claiming this and that.You talk as if you'v thoroughly put it to the test.Have you yourself compared/tested it against previous model PI detectors? Can you tell us how much better,in overall performance it is,over that of the GPX 5000,over the same ground conditions? New technology yes.Claims of up to 40% deeper? Over what and where,remains to be seen.The only way I'll know for certain,is to test one against the 5000 myself.It has to be proven to me,by me,not based on clever advertising/hear say alone,for what is the purpose of having new technology,running smoother,quieter,than all previous detector models before it,yet not be able to go deeper than the 5000 on a 1 ounce slug of gold,over the same section of ground?
Claims remain only claims until put to the test.The only thing irrelevant at this stage in time,are hear-say talk,and unless we get detailed,honest comparison reports,from experienced long time detectorists,all questions regarding the performance of the new GPZ 7000 remain relevant.

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Post  avon g on Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:16 pm

IF i was in the market for one, i'd take exactly the same approach as you Kon. Marketing is just that, but even though i'm relatively new to the game and have only swung a few different Minelab PI's, each release has been an improvement over the previous just like GoldHound said.

Incidentally a VERY respected employee from a VERY respected dealer in Vic told me on the weekend that you can expect to part between $8000 - $9000 for a GPZ 7000!!! affraid

I don't know why he threw that figure out there and I certainly don't like starting rumors, but i didn't start this one so don't shoot the messenger.


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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:18 pm

I remember going to the atx unveiling in perth and listened to the claims on how great the atx was how deep it went how better then the gpx 5000 it was blah blah blah. I bet there were a few who regretted buying that detector.
On the current situation I'm trying before buying. If it's good I'll get if not well I'll keep going with the 5.

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Post  kon61 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:36 pm

Would anyone here buy a car just on looks,without test driving it & then find out there's little or no go under the bonnet? I think not.
People must not misunderstand what I'm trying to say here. I am not trying to diverge anyone from buying,nor bagging Minelabs reputation,for every PI model detector to date,(as stated by others here) has been better and better.Would I myself as a long time detectorist,not be over the moon if the claims of the new GPZ 7000 performance,far surpassed that of the GPX 5000? You bet I would,who in there right mind wouldn't. If the claimed performance is there,it be worth every cent of it.
Like I'v said in the past,justification when buying is what I'm after,for parting with money is one thing,finding out the new toy I'v bought,had little performance benefit over that of the previous (GPX 5000) is another. Remember once bought and payed for,you'r stuck with it and if it wasn't all it was made to be,you might end up selling it,whilst justifying all but its true performance capabilities.
Now some might say who cares what it costs,for I'v got,can afford or can find the money to buy it.Fair enough to those who can without second thought,but I do wish to state that $8000/9000 for a hand held detector,aint no drop in the ocean,for many either.
What ever the increase in price may be for the New GPZ 7000,(being a consumable),the greater the loss will also be upon sale.
Hey G.B,Would it not have been easier for me,just to put my vote in and keep me gab shut? Laughing

   Cheers Kon.
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Post  goldnomad on Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:46 pm

Gee Kon, I don't see this Poll as being beneficial. Don't you think it might be going pear shaped or even turning into a slanging match? Shocked

Get my drift?

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Post  Wombat on Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:56 pm

Being on a pension I very much dought that I could ever afford the new detector. The only way I could would be to trade my 5000 in and then ask everyone I know to donate $2.00 to the wombat detector fund and then pray that I get enough Q10 Otherwise just stick with my 5000. V12
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Post  G.B. on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:23 am

Wombat wrote:Being on a pension I very much dought that I could ever afford the new detector. The only way I could would be to trade my 5000 in and then ask everyone I know to donate $2.00 to the wombat detector fund and then pray that I get enough Q10 Otherwise just stick with my 5000. V12
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Post  ozgold 041 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:59 am

kon61 wrote:Would anyone here buy a car just on looks,without test driving it & then find out there's little or no go under the bonnet? I think not.
People must not misunderstand what I'm trying to say here. I am not trying to diverge anyone from buying,nor bagging Minelabs reputation,for every PI model detector to date,(as stated by others here) has been better and better.Would I myself as a long time detectorist,not be over the moon if the claims of the new GPZ 7000 performance,far surpassed that of the GPX 5000? You bet I would,who in there right mind wouldn't. If the claimed performance is there,it be worth every cent of it.
Like I'v said in the past,justification when buying is what I'm after,for parting with money is one thing,finding out the new toy I'v bought,had little performance benefit over that of the previous (GPX 5000) is another. Remember once bought and payed for,you'r stuck with it and if it wasn't all it was made to be,you might end up selling it,whilst justifying all but its true performance capabilities.
Now some might say who cares what it costs,for I'v got,can afford or can find the money to buy it.Fair enough to those who can without second thought,but I do wish to state that $8000/9000 for a hand held detector,aint no drop in the ocean,for many either.
What ever the increase in price may be for the New GPZ 7000,(being a consumable),the greater the loss will also be upon sale.
Hey G.B,Would it not have been easier for me,just to put my vote in and keep me gab shut? Laughing

   Cheers Kon.

Hi Con.

I'm with you on that.
I know 3 pros that search for deep gold that have tested this new detector.
The all said they would stick with their 5000's.

It didn't cut the mustard.

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Post  rc62burke on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:27 am

ozgold 041 wrote:
kon61 wrote:Would anyone here buy a car just on looks,without test driving it & then find out there's little or no go under the bonnet? I think not.
People must not misunderstand what I'm trying to say here. I am not trying to diverge anyone from buying,nor bagging Minelabs reputation,for every PI model detector to date,(as stated by others here) has been better and better.Would I myself as a long time detectorist,not be over the moon if the claims of the new GPZ 7000 performance,far surpassed that of the GPX 5000? You bet I would,who in there right mind wouldn't. If the claimed performance is there,it be worth every cent of it.
Like I'v said in the past,justification when buying is what I'm after,for parting with money is one thing,finding out the new toy I'v bought,had little performance benefit over that of the previous (GPX 5000) is another. Remember once bought and payed for,you'r stuck with it and if it wasn't all it was made to be,you might end up selling it,whilst justifying all but its true performance capabilities.
Now some might say who cares what it costs,for I'v got,can afford or can find the money to buy it.Fair enough to those who can without second thought,but I do wish to state that $8000/9000 for a hand held detector,aint no drop in the ocean,for many either.
What ever the increase in price may be for the New GPZ 7000,(being a consumable),the greater the loss will also be upon sale.
Hey G.B,Would it not have been easier for me,just to put my vote in and keep me gab shut? Laughing

   Cheers Kon.

Hi Con.

I'm with you on that.
I know 3 pros that search for deep gold that have tested this new detector.
The all said they would stick with their 5000's.

It didn't cut the mustard.

Ozgold.

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Pro's you say???? have tested it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes & they say they will stick with the GPX5000 Very Happy Cool  hmm I wonder scratch scratch geek lol!

Maybe Question Question  these "Pro's" want to keep all that DEEP "Gold" for themselves Exclamation Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Wink Wink Wink affraid
Therefore by telling you this they are preventing the early take up of this new offering by the Hoards, OR maybe it's you who is doing that!!!!!!!!!!!!???????

What I am getting at is there is nothing like first hand knowledge to make a decision upon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I spoke to someone yesterday about the 7000, I asked if you think it will be as good as they say??? "I know it is" was the reply!!!!!!!!!!! source protected by non disclosure agreement, so don't ask lol! lol! scratch scratch Very Happy Cool T10 T37 V46 V46 V46 V46


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Post  slimpickens on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:33 am

ozgold 041 wrote:

I know 3 pros that search for deep gold that have tested this new detector.
The all said they would stick with their 5000's.

It didn't cut the mustard.

Ozgold.

Now what would pro's know about detecting? They weren't gold diggers were they? Laughing
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Post  kevlorraine2 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:39 am

hi OZGOLD,
i remember reading your thoughts a few weeks back on this 7000 in particular ---

if the latest model to come is presented as an easy to use, simple to operate detector, in a new style (for a gold detector) and being a complete package no wires backpack etc. It is sure to please a lot of hobbyists and weekend warriors, newbie’s etc of that I’m certain.
After all they are happy with any size gold for the day, and not like the more experienced semi pro, or goldfields local resident going out whenever he likes, now these are the blokes that do want a better deep seeking machine.

Most prospectors have the best there is at the moment until the big mother gets here, so why shouldn’t they bring out this GPZ 7000 now? At least it will give the trade the boost it needs right away, especially for the dealers. Not to mention a lift in the share price for their investors.
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MY FEARS EXACTLY

then your comments immediately above "3 pro types are going to keep their 5000"

i thank you very much for confirming my concern that this is in fact going to be a popular, easy to use, simplified, 5000/2300. people have been complaining about the heavy battery, leads, no wifi, no gps, no usb etc for ages. minelab is keeping the average buyer happy, good on them. i will wait to see if the 40% extra depth has any trouth to it. the vague reference to 40% extra depth would be incredible. i will wait to see the verdict before jumping ... kev

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Post  Nightjar on Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:37 am

When this machine is on the dealers shelf and factual information and price is confirmed then and only then will a decision be made.
Definitely not working on hearsay.





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Post  BatchelorGold on Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:49 am

If the 7000 is absolutely killing it....it will be a no brainer! Sell the 45 and grab the new wand!
I will reserve judgement on what we all hear over the first few months of release on various ground around the country. Not sure I will be able to try before I buy up here in Darwin so I'll be using everyone's reports to sway my decision.
I certainly have some colour put aside! Very Happy

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Post  Alan WA on Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:59 am

I thought the pro's looking for big deep gold used 4500's, or even 2200's

Think I'll be getting one early.
Just see what ml's blerb is at the full launch time.
Surely they wouldn't outright lie.....?? Surely..

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