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Post  stoney07 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:02 am

I was using my Tessoro Vaquerro a few Sundays ago looking for some goldies, you can imagine how i felt when i pulled this dirty disc out of the ground. it gave a different sound and seemed close to the surface, i dug about 6 inches and pulled out a Half Guinea 1790. cheers

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Post  Ash100456 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:38 am

Great find ! Good onya.
Cheers
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:03 am

A lovely find ! A pity about the hole !
These were often used on the end of a watch chain fob back in the 1800's nice keep sake cheers

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Post  stoney07 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:10 am

Yep, i was delighted especially in a quiet town of Wodonga. Shame it wasn't gold though, never mind, as you said still a great find for a Sunday morning hunt :-)
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Post  Wombat on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:52 am

Stoney here is the info of your coin but it is interesting your is silver but the one in the Melb. Museum is gold.
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Gold coin; Denomination: Guinea
Royal Mint, London
King George III (1760-1820)

At that time a the half guinea was current at 10 shillings and 6 pence.
Acquisition Information:
Transfer from National Gallery of Victoria (NGV)
Discipline: Numismatics
Dimensions: 21 mm (Diameter)
Weight: 4.159 g (Weight)
More informationThemes this item is part of: Royal Mint, London, Royal Mint, Tower Hill, 1809-1975, Early History of London Mints, to 1300, The Royal Mint, Numismatics & Philately Collection
Primary Classification: COINS
Secondary Classification: Great Britain
Tertiary Classification: working strikes
DateEra: 1790 AD
Denomination: 1/2 Guinea
Obverse Description: Laureate bust of George III facing right; around, GEORGIVS III DEI GRATIA.
Reverse Description: Crowned spade-shaped shield quartered with the arms of England and Scotland impaled, France, Ireland and the Electorate of Brunswick and Luneburg; around, M B F ET H REX F D B ET L D S R I A T ET E; below shield, 1790. (translation from obverse to reverse, George III by the Grace of God King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Duke of Brunswick and Luneberg, Archi-Thesaurius and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire)
Edge Description: milled, ///
Shape: Round
Material: Gold
Issued By: King George III, England, Great Britain, 1790
Mint: Royal Mint, London, London, England, Great Britain, 1790
Bibliography: 1.[Book], Philip Skingley - Spink & Sons Ltd., Coins of England and the United Kingdom, Spink & Son Ltd., London,

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Post  stoney07 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:00 pm

Wow...Thanks Wombat for that info. Its funny but it looks the color of gold and nothing like silver.To be honest it looks more like brass than silver? anyhow im delighted with it. i love detecting. The treasure hunting feeling when we were kids will never go away thanks to it farao
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:14 pm


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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:27 pm

Very nice find there stoney07 Very Happy Congrats on your find...

Cheers.

Mike. cheers

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Post  Minermike on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:44 pm

I hope it is gold for you, but the old timers used to make moulds and then cast them in a different metal.
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Post  stoney07 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:15 pm

I dont think its gold as it doesn't feel heavy, plus it had to be cleaned for a good hour after i got it home. i think its brass?? cyclops
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:20 pm

Well it might have been a fake that was made for pocket watch chains ! Gota chase that up! Lol!

What weight and diameter is it ?

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Post  Wombat on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:37 pm

Ark wrote:Well it might have been a fake that was made for pocket watch chains ! Gota chase that up! Lol!

What weight and diameter is it ?

That may explain the hole at the top. I don't think anyone would put a hole in a real gold Guinea specially in those days when a half Guinea was worth 10 shillings & 6 pence, a lot of money in those days. It looks like a fake as the edges of the coin is smooth were as the real one had ruff edges.
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Post  granite2 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:37 pm

A friend of mine found a fake soverign made from silver. They were used as tokens when gambling.

Great Find though, Cheers, Jim
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:03 pm

stoney07 wrote:Shame it wasn't gold though, never mind,

mate I have found quite a few pieces of gold over the years but I have never found one of those.
Ill be very happy if I go detecting tomorrow and don`t find gold but find one of those Laughing
well done on your terrific find
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Post  Detectist on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:42 pm

What a great and unusual find. Well done!
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Post  Jims Gold on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:49 pm

G'day Stoney

Great find and it is a half guinea of the "spade" design but they were only minted in gold, there were no silver guineas or half guineas so I'd take a closer look at it if you think it looks like brass.

However you may like to take a look at this,
http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=5243&main_ct_id=94

Cheers
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Post  granite2 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:06 pm

I once saw a holy dollar at the Ballarat Gold Musem and it didn't look like gold. More like very dull brass, but it was gold alright. If your coin looks like brass I would suggest you get it tested as it may well be gold. bounce

Cheers, and good luck, Jim cheers
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:13 pm

Holy dollars were silver Shocked

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Post  Jims Gold on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:28 pm

I dont think that link I put up worked but that link shows that that yours is probably a. tokenl
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Post  granite2 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:40 pm

Ark, you are right. For some reason I was thinking they were gold. Embarassed Must be going around the twist. Suspect
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:50 pm

Jims Gold wrote:I dont think that link I put up worked but that link shows that that yours is probably a. tokenl


Well done ! Tracked it indeed Very Happy

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:50 pm

granite2 wrote:Ark, you are right. For some reason I was thinking they were gold. Embarassed Must be going around the twist. Suspect


Believe me it gets worse lol!

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Post  Minermike on Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:45 pm

Must be going around the twist. Too much red wine !!!!
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